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MsCandeh
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posted October 28, 2009 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
How would we interpret midpoints? We can make them out of sooo many combinations, so I don't want an explanation of them all.

For example, what would a Venus/Saturn MP indicate? Restrictions in love/pleasure? I'm still learning

And how would we use them in interpretations? Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere (I have no idea if this site has a search function? Can't seem to find one!)

I was going through some old notes of mine, trying to wrap things up with Gem. I want to let go, but there are way too many (astrological) coinckydinks, not to mention others we have had in real life! lol. It's over, but ... I don't know. It doesn't feel right. And I have a gut feeling he'll be back, somehow. My gut instinct is quite often right. For example his Saturn conjunct my Venus/Saturn midpoint exactly. This ISN'T the reason I'm not dropping the subject with him, as I don't let astrology rule the way I go about relationships. But I just wanted to look into it more. And also, if there are so many connections - WHY did it work out the way it has. I am quite Scorpio after all

My own Moon/Saturn midpoint conjuncts my natal Pluto exactly. I wonder what this means?!

Any insights appreciated

ETA: my Sun/Moon MP conjuncts my Venus/Pluto MP (by 1 deg). What the?! That sounds scary.

ETA2: my Sun/Venus MP (17.29 Tau) squares my Sun/Saturn MP (17.14 Leo) squares my Venus/Mars MP (16.37 Aqua) squares my Mars/Saturn MP (16.23 Scorp) .. eeek. I don't understand it, but that doesn't sound pleasant at all!

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Glaucus
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posted October 28, 2009 10:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"How would we interpret midpoints? We can make them out of sooo many combinations, so I don't want an explanation of them all.

For example, what would a Venus/Saturn MP indicate? Restrictions in love/pleasure? I'm still learning"

It can limitations,restrictions,discipline,structure,maturit in love/relationships/value systems

And how would we use them in interpretations? Sorry if this has been posted elsewhere (I have no idea if this site has a search function? Can't seem to find one!)

well....you use them like a combination of planetary energies

the midpoint of 2 points is like the integration of the energies of those 2 points. when another point aspects that midpoint, then it works like 3 point combination. That's what I term " midpoint picture"

midpoints in aspect to midpoints can also be significant and work as a 4 point combination. The Uranian Astrologers refer to them as "planetary pictures" David Cochrane refer to them as "isosceles trapezoids" Magi Society refer to them as "magi quads.
I only look at midpoint-midpoint conjunctions,oppositions within 30 minutes of arc. I have Sun/Mercury conjunct Jupiter/Uranus midpoint with 3 minutes of arc, and that could be an indicator of my natural ability to think outside the box as well as an expansive,innovative mind,self expression.

"I was going through some old notes of mine, trying to wrap things up with Gem. I want to let go, but there are way too many (astrological) coinckydinks, not to mention others we have had in real life! lol. It's over, but ... I don't know. It doesn't feel right. And I have a gut feeling he'll be back, somehow. My gut instinct is quite often right. For example his Saturn conjunct my Venus/Saturn midpoint exactly. This ISN'T the reason I'm not dropping the subject with him, as I don't let astrology rule the way I go about relationships. But I just wanted to look into it more. And also, if there are so many connections - WHY did it work out the way it has. I am quite Scorpio after all"

I feel that you need to let go and move on. As I told you earlier, there was a strong theme of change,transformation in his life. The stuff kept adding up. The more I saw stuff, the more that I felt that I think that he made a permanent break from you. A lot of people think that something isn't right when there is breakup,hoping for a reconciliation. They tell themselves that they will move on,but they don't. They tell their exes that they want them to be happy, but it's not conditional. They tend to want their exes to be happy with only them. They don't want them to be happy with others which would make a reconciliation very unlikely. It's that issue with possessiveness,obsession,and even jealousy that can make it hard for somebody to move on from somebody that they love. Is it really love though? Love is more about caring about the well-being of the person without thinking about yourself but wanting what's best for that person even if it's not being with you. They said that true love is about letting go,is selfless,and unconditional. What many people experience with others that leads to possessiveness,obsession,and is what's called attachment. It is said that attachment has to do with being too much into the ego. It is said that when you're liberated from the ego, you become detached. Therefore,possessiveness,obsession,jealousy is not an issue. You're free from worry and stress when it comes from wanting that person.
Then you can attract a person that is right for you. While you're waiting for somebody that might not come back, you could be barring that person from being with you. It's like you could build an invisible wall that keeps people from reaching you. It can turn them away.

Regardless of how many synastry connections and other things in Astrology, I believe that free will is the ultimate factor. Many relationships just don't work out permanently. It could be because the couples are meant to go their separate ways after learning lessons from each other. It could be in their soul contract to be in each other's live temporarily. The relationship could be a preparation for other relationships in the future.


"My own Moon/Saturn midpoint conjuncts my natal Pluto exactly. I wonder what this means?!"

Moon/Saturn midpoint
integation of the emotional nature,feelings,unconscious and discipline,structure,limitations are in a strong connection with intensity,transformation,regeneration

"Any insights appreciated"

"ETA: my Sun/Moon MP conjuncts my Venus/Pluto MP (by 1 deg). What the?! That sounds scary."

I wouldn't worry about it. It's 1 degree orb. I wouldn't consider that strong.

I'd interpret that as integration of ego,self expression,vitality,masculine energy and emotional nature,feelings,nurturing,and feminine energy is combined with the integration of love,relationships,values,affection and intensity,transformation,regeneration in connection

"ETA2: my Sun/Venus MP (17.29 Tau) squares my Sun/Saturn MP (17.14 Leo) squares my Venus/Mars MP (16.37 Aqua) squares my Mars/Saturn MP (16.23 Scorp) .. eeek. I don't understand it, but that doesn't sound pleasant at all!"

I wouldn't put much emphasis on those.
they are not necessarily bad any way. that's for any configuration in Astrology.

I wish you all the best. I am very sorry about your relationship ending. There is a much better man for you in the future. As long as you keep holding onto your ex and dwelling on the past and not living in the present moment, you are not making yourself available for that man to come into your life.


If you want, I can go over your transits,secondary progressions,and solar arcs with you.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

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MsCandeh
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posted October 28, 2009 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
Raymond, you're a sweetheart. Thank you. We can chat over e-mail if you like.

I just received "The Rulership" book last week and I haven't had much of a chance to look into it, but I can see how handy it will be with interpreting midpoint pictures.

Thanks for all your insights, I really do appreciate it.

I can put my e-mail up on here if you'd prefer? It contains my surname so am not sure if I want it publish on the web or not

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Glaucus
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posted October 28, 2009 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

you can just email me

astynaz@yahoo.com


Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

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