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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted November 02, 2009 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Hiya,

There's been a lot of talk about Aquarius folks lately, so I thought I'd provide a case study of one. They seem to be an enigma to many, including myself. This one just happens to be my boyfriend I know him pretty well, so what I thought I'd do is describe him to everyone, and then allow folks to dissect his natal chart to see if they can put the pieces of his personality together to see if the astrology fits. He exhibits fairly typical Aquarian traits, but I think there are some nice deviances there that make him a good study.

Here's his chart:

First of all, he's very talented. Extremely talented athletically (he went to college on a sports scholarship), intellectually (he has a degree in Biology), and musically (he plays several instruments). He has a ton of friends, and is very loyal to his friends. He treats them like family. He is highly rebellious against authority--this includes parents (they didn't always get along, although his relationship with them has improved with age), employers (he has a very rocky relationship with his boss), and law enforcement (he has several speeding tickets and his driver's license has been suspended twice).

He is also a contradiction in personality. On the one hand he can have quite the attitude--brash, brutally blunt at times, and very impulsive, but he can also be achingly sensitive. His feelings are hurt very easily although he doesn't always show it. When he is angry, he has a kind of wild energy, but not physically--it usually comes out verbally, and he goes on these verbal tirades. He will use words, and boy will they hurt! Or, he will simply withdraw and get cold and distant. He doesn't stay angry for long though. He is very forgiving. He is very sensitive to perceived criticism. He adores his mother and younger sister. He has a deep and grudging respect for his father. Family is very important to him, especially his large extended family. He is a perfectionist in his work.

He has big dreams about what he wants to accomplish in his career and dreams of being a famous musician one day. He is very aware of the problems that occur in society, especially among youth, and counsels troubled teens in his spare time. As part of his sensitive side, he writes poetry, but he also listens to hard rock and gangsta rap LOL.

He is very active physically. He loves sports. He likes being outside, but he is also ok with staying in. He is very demonstrative and physically affectionate. A very good kisser. Sexually, he is a slow burner. He can be reserved at first, but once he gets going he is deeply passionate and all about his partner. He is very concerned with making sure that his partner is fulfilled before taking satisfaction for himself.

Thoughts? I have analyzed his chart to death myself, so know a lot of what explains these things, but I thought that anyone wanting to know about Aquarians, especially the males, would find him interesting. I also felt compelled to refute the idea that Aquarians were cold and unfeeling--anything but! Although I do admit that his Cancer ASC and Aries Moon will make him very emotional anyway.

I would be interested in anything I have missed about him, especially concerning his ideas about commitment, marriage, children, etc. I have had a synastry reading done for us, so I'm not so much interested in the "us", just "him." Who is he? What is there that I might not have seen about him that wouldn't have been revealed yet?

We have known each other for almost 3 years, but have only been a couple for 3 months.

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posted November 02, 2009 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
hmmm he sounds much more virgo/aries to me - not so aquarian

sun opposing regulus

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posted November 02, 2009 08:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Well he does have those three Virgo planets, and that Aries Moon/Venus...he's also barely an Aquarius...right on the cusp. But barely counts

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posted November 02, 2009 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Well, looking at his chart, he doesn't seem to have a lot of Aquarian energy, other than his Sun which is at a critical degree and also squaring Uranus.

See, this is a good example of why Sun Sign stereotyping isn't very helpful. If you want to stereotype someone (and are too lazy to analyze the chart yourself), I'd go to the special charts section and do the Walter Pullen simple chart delineation on Astro. That'll tell you which sign is strongest in a chart.

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posted November 02, 2009 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
He sounds a lot like me in many respects, and I am an aqua. People don't get us at all. They read too many stupid books saying we're totally detached and all that. We can be at times, but not really, and I am actually one of the more sensitive people I know, and I come from a family full of cancers and scorps. I also have no water in my chart. We just put on a front, but have more emotions than most people, tbh. We only show it to people we REALLY trust and that takes a long time.

Ya know, he is practically a pisces.


He sounds NOTHING like virgo.

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posted November 02, 2009 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
See, I would say he exhibits the "run of the mill" Aquarian traits of being independent (almost to a fault), friendly (he has a ton of friends, of all different types, and can fit in anywhere), rebellious, humanitarian, and a deep thinker.

Just enough for someone to say "oh yeah, I can see him being Aquarian", but then enough variance from the other stereotypical stuff to really confuse someone who likes to pigeon-hole sun signs.

By the way, he loves being Aquarian and February-born, he has a tattoo of his DOB, he thinks being an Aquarius makes him "special" LOL.

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posted November 02, 2009 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Ah Diana...Aquarians and their famed detachment! He proclaims detachment often, but he's so not! The more I have gotten to know him, the more I realize this. He throws out "I don't care" when he cares the most! I have come to learn that an "I don't care" is often a hallmark of really hurt feelings. That and silence. If he "doesn't care" that he didn't get a raise, it bothers the hell out of him. If he "doesn't care" that he wasn't able to worm his way out of his last speeding ticket, it was actually an affront to his dignity. If one of his friends forgot to remember a day of special importance and "he doesn't need people anyway", then he's actually cut to the bone. Etc, etc. etc.

Not that he isn't EVER detached. He has a remarkable capacity to let stuff roll off his back, shrug, and move on, while I'm still stewing and fuming about things. He often chides me that I need to work on letting things go, and he can be extremely laid back about things. Including the business of maintaining a relationship sometimes...but I've learned to take the bad with the good and there's a lot of good.

But he is far from totally detached.

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posted November 02, 2009 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Trust me, they're not detached
They can even be smothering sometimes with affection.

Take it from someone raised by a tribe of Aquas and who's in a relationship with one.

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posted November 02, 2009 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
MVM--this is the guy I talked to you about over the summer.

I thought you would like to look at his chart to see how right you were about him. Chart unseen. Fire & Water, for sure.

You're a Queen.

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Smothering with affection is very true! He gets offended if I move away from him in my sleep LOL! Except I am so physically affectionate to me there is hardly such a thing as smothering so I love it, but still, always a nice treat when he gets like that. I had been attributing some of that hugging/holding/kissing on forehead stuff to the nurturing Cancer ASC but very interesting to know it's an Aqua trait as well.

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posted November 03, 2009 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Starr, glad to be right in a good way!

My Aqua is an Aries moon too (like me). Aries moons are VERY focused on their partners as well.
My Aqua is very independent too, and is all about thinking out of the box and always liking to learn new things and is into philosophy (it's funny he even says this with his 9th house stellium lol).
But what they like in their life in general isn't what they like in their LOVE life. I've not seen an Aqua who enjoys variety in their love life - in fact quite the opposite. They like what they like and they stick to it. Plus when YOU yourself are an interesting, multi-faceted person (which you are), then it's like a dream come true lol.

And the Aries moon is impulsive but wants to be loved. Even if it's being obnoxious (which it can be), if the feelings get hurt it's like 'What? You don't like me?? Why?? "
Almost like a little kid, it's very sweet (well, I think it is because I'm an Aries moon too LOL)...love me, love me, love me. Like a puppy lol.

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posted November 03, 2009 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Lara--Do you have an interpretation for the Sun opposition Regulus? I know Regulus is a fixed star, it is beneficient, right? Don't you have a significant Regulus placement in your chart?

MVM--thanks so much for the insight on Aries moons. I have to admit I'm often tempted to blame all his less than charming personality traits on this placement LOL. Especially how he can be less than considerate with his words at times. And that crazy "to hell with what you think...and you, and you, and you too!" attitude that he can display. But he is so darn vulnerable and sweet to go along with that...and incredibly romantic and generous. Everything you say is true.

I just noticed he has PoF, Jupiter, AND Mars all in his 2nd house--he is convinced he will be wealthy one day, and money HAS tended to come easily to him. Those aspects all sound very favorable, except it leaves just as easily too! Is this due to the Sun and Mercury oppositions?

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posted November 03, 2009 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Re his money and 2nd house, I think it's possibly because of the Mercury opposition, but also check out the Rx planets in there. I've got a Jupiter Rx too and it's in my 10th, aspecting my 2nd house ruler. What I know about Jupiter Rx is that money will be made when it's not the goal. Passions come first, money follows, and I think it's more emphasized with a Jupiter rx. That's just my opinion.

As for the Aries moon... I think 'growing' into that moon can be an issue. The rebelliousness and tirades come and go, but with age and understanding it gets better (I've found it that way at least). But there's always going to be that spark. I think when we Aries mooners get annoyed we make a lot of noise and mock whatever is bugging us and then it's out of the system and we're distracted by whatever shiny object you hold before our eyes
The nice thing about the Aries moon is that more often than not it will overcompensate for bad behavior because they really do want to be liked.

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posted November 03, 2009 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message
Mars in 2nd House = money in, money out ... the reason is that Mars likes action, so when it's in 2H it means money keeps moving.

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posted November 03, 2009 02:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Btw- Does he cut you off a lot during conversation, Starr? I've noticed this is a problem with the Aries moon sometimes. We get all excited and run over a person in conversation without realizing it.

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posted November 03, 2009 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
So does Aries proclaim detachment!

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posted November 03, 2009 06:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lehia2     Edit/Delete Message

I've never bought the idea that Aquarians were cold. I've beeen practically raised by aquarians, my two best friends are aquas and two of my most important bf was/is an aqua.
I've never really notice that 'coldness' everybody talks about. My friend is clingy as heck (gemini asc and libra moon), she doesnt talk much about her feelings but she has admitted that they're very intense. My bf can be clingy too (gem moon, leo asc) and he's anything BUT cold.
I really don't like reading that supposed detachment, coldness descriptions about aquas. The ones I've met in my life, were all very loyal, sincere, and yes, not very demonstrative, but that doesn't mean they are robots (sometimes reading some forums makes you think they are).

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posted November 03, 2009 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Lehia, im like your friend, gem asc ad libra moon. I consider myself clingy. I like to do EVERYTHING with my s/o. Im really only independent in thoughts and opinions, not necessarily in everyday life.

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posted November 03, 2009 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Duex:

Makes sense about the Mars. He is quite lucky and manages money responsibly, but he knows how to spend it too. Easy come, easy go with him. Not a saver type. He's also the hardest working man I know though--he works 7 days a week to keep making money.

MVM:

Actually I will give him credit where credit is due: he is an outstanding listener. He is usually very good about taking turns during conversation, especially important ones (and I LOVE this about him because I am super communicative and especially after a disagreement it makes me feel HEARD), so it is rare that he runs over people. The only times I have seen him do this is when he gets super excited about his two loves: sports and music, and usually with his male friends when they are talking about those subjects. With women he is very solicitious and respectful and pays a lot of attention to us.

Lehia:

I had no idea there were so many Aqua tribes out there raising kids LOL. But yeah, he's affectionate. Nowhere near "clingy", but he is demonstrative when the occasion calls for it. With one exception--he is not at all into PDA. In public, a hug or a brief hand hold is about it, and that's a good day. Unless he is liquored up, then it's like "How you doin?" LOL!

He can be super reserved, especially until he gets to know you better. But not in a suspicious or distrustful way. Just careful. But never detached. No one in need would ever go unattended around him. In fact, if his music career doesn't work out, he will probably go to medical school to become a physician. That is his other dream.

Incidentally, for those struggling with their Aquas, as far as "Aqua in love", I can only share my experience...I will say that I USED TO think he was detached. I confused his reservation with detachment. He would get very hurt by this however. See, I am super obvious (to a fault) when I'm crazy about someone and initially he's not. Although he chased me to high heaven to get me to notice him, it's kind of like he didn't quite know what to do with me once he got me. I didn't know he had fallen for me until I said something to him about my feelings first in this angsty, somewhat dramatic display (gotta love Mars in Leo!). He quietly processed this information (while I tossed and turned all night kicking myself) and then the next day...it was like the walls of Jericho had come crumbling down. Totally different man. There was so much vulnerability and openness there...

He doesn't respond to my forceful displays of energy by getting forceful back (this is probably a very good thing), but he is receptive to them. I have learned that when he is quiet, he is hearing me. I think that is a very important dynamic with Aquas. It was especially important with me because in my previous relationships, conflict = passion. Being heard had to = raised voices. Not with this one. If I leave him alone for a little bit, he will digest and then come back and amaze me by showing me that he was paying 100% attention and is very receptive to the needs of the relationship and me. Which makes it so easy for me to be receptive to him and what he needs...and btw, one of his primary needs is quite a bit of space. Not necessarily physical, but mental and emotional too. More than an average person I would say. Can't always be heavy with them. If you want to be heavy, you have to let them know in advance so they can get in the right mindset LOL. I realized this fairly early on. A super clingy person will NEVER make a good Aqua mate. A little clingy makes them feel loved. Super clingy makes them feel smothered.

Aquas are a challenge, but you'll never be bored. This one is the bee's knees.

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posted November 03, 2009 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Mia     Edit/Delete Message
StarVEnus: if I am not mistaken your Aqua man has the same bday as mine..Would that be Feb 18th..He too has Moon and Venus in Aries..I did not read all the comments but I will..Maybe we should compare notes..I have been with him off and of for 5 1/2 years..SO MUCH to our relationship..I am 2/25 real close to him so we can mirror each other alot..

Ok I read your first post and mine too is very atheletic been playing basktball since he was about 8 he loves it plays faithfully with the guys 3 days out of the week and coaches the kids from time to time (VENus in the 5th house)

Yes he too is rebellious but only when its personal stuff, Not authority bc he is a police officer himself but he can have a above the attitude bc of that. He was rebellious as a kid did what he wanted to do..

VERY,VERY physicall affectionate more then I am and I am a Pisces. Will kiss and hug me anywhere in front of anyone..He may hesitate when at the gym in front of the boys. It was not until I confessed to him I love him that he let some walls down. He hates to show any sign of weakness, His grandma passed and he apologized for crying in front of me..WHAT thats so normal honey..

I was happy to share that with him. Anyway so many things that you have said deems true with my Aqua,,He is very,very sensitive and tends to internalize things that have nothing to do with him..When they love a girl they protect her with everything in them..Mine is a cop so i get constant talks of safety sometimes I go huh!!!

Any one that has been on this board for as long as I have know about he and I bc i have driven these ppl crazy with questions and comments..So many mystical things have happen between us I cannot began to tell you..But what i have figured out over the coarse of our knowing each other is that we are meant to be..TO many things tell me that, my gut more then anything..

Yes he can be distant when he is mad and his feelings are hurt and that hurts me I am a Pisces after all..What I have learned over time is acceptance and patience(Still working on this one) and tolerance..He is who he is. Sometimes I feel he can be selfish, but alot of times he can be the most giving and sweet sensitive man in the world..

So if your Aqua is like my Aqua I know why you love him..One of the very best parts to our relationship is the telepathy he can reach me any where at any time and vise versa..Strange stuff..lol

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posted November 03, 2009 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Yep. Feb 18. Oh wow, a Pisces and an Aqua-almost-Pisces...I can't wait to hear your story.

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posted November 03, 2009 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Mia     Edit/Delete Message
We can compare stories any time you like I have tons of them and don't mind hearing yours sounds quite interesting. I have another friend that is a Libra her man's bday is the same day as well she calls me to find out if mine is acting weird bc her's is..lol..

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posted November 03, 2009 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
my bf asc is the same as your bf´s asc

and he is an aqua moon and has uranus/nep in 6th like your bf.

your description fits my bf also as he is soo affectionate,and understanding.he is very sweet and loves family ( cancer asc),and im very pleased that your bf also shares that trait of someone who puts the partners pleasure firts good for you!!men arent usually likfe that.

what i find might be a bit hard is pluto in the 4th...also my nf has that.can make family/home an issue.probably he had a tought childwood?or upbringing?power struggles,dominant family member who someone who was prefered in detriment of your bf?this can really undermine the person´s self esteem...and as a cancer asc they can really be wounded forever if we dont know how to digg up well with love,and sent that free from them.

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posted November 03, 2009 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Just Mia     Edit/Delete Message

"Trust me, they're not detached
They can even be smothering sometimes with affection."

Uh yeah!!! Its all out of love though, bc if they don't love you they wont show that part at all..

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posted November 03, 2009 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Just Mia:

Wow, if you hadn't told me he was a cop I would start to get paranoid we were dating the same guy! Mine plays basketball too, that was his sports scholarship.

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It was not until I confessed to him I love him that he let some walls down.

Yes! I have not said the "L" word yet but I have half said it lol. I told him I was "falling" in love with him. That's when the walls of Jericho came crumbling down. I noticed a huge change in his level of engagement with me emotionally after that--it was like he needed me to go first.

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When they love a girl they protect her with everything in them.

+1. I had an asthma attack over the summer that put me out of commission for 6 weeks and almost did me in and he checked in on me almost every day. He was paranoid to the extreme about my health, and that was before we were even officially interested in each other. When I called him on his overprotectiveness he said in this urgent way, "I just need to know you can breathe." In hindsight, that was very telling about his feelings for me. He is also adamant about me calling to let him know I am home when I go places in the dark LOL.

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So many mystical things have happen between us I cannot began to tell you.

I have been wondering about this. I wasn't sure enough about the experience to say anything about it on the board yet but now that you have mentioned it, I will: I really feel that I have some sort of telepathy with him...

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Yes he can be distant when he is mad and his feelings are hurt and that hurts me I am a Pisces after all..What I have learned over time is acceptance and patience(Still working on this one)...

They could be twins. Acceptance and patience is definitely required! In fact, that was one of my Facebook statuses the other day LOL. The Force is strong with these ones...

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One of the very best parts to our relationship is the telepathy he can reach me any where at any time and vise versa..Strange stuff..lol

OMG! Ok this is freaking me out...the telepathy thing is definitely true. I have never had that with any man like with this one. I swear he can sense when I am thinking of him. It seems to work best when I am angry, strangely. He will contact me suddenly. It's like "leave me alone, I'm mad at you!" LOL. It also works when I'm missing him, lonely, or just feeling super duper lovey and strong about him. It goes both ways. I am super attuned to him. I feel like if I think hard enough about him I can picture him in his environment, know what he's thinking and doing. I'm almost scared to tune into it too much, I don't want to abuse it. I might need it one day for something really important!

That is crazy that these astro-twins are so much alike and that we have had similar experiences with them. I'm so glad you contributed to the Aqua man thread

EDIT: Diandra, very astute observation about his Pluto in the 4th. His parents were very domineering. He has said that both him and his younger sister felt the need to rebel against their authority. Both of them left home as soon as they could. Like I said, his relationship with them has improved tremendously with age, but hers is still rocky. He definitely is going to be trying to right some wrongs in the way he raises his family...and you are right, he is very brash and projects a lot of confidence but I sense deeper self-esteem issues (which amazes me because he is incredibly good looking and women are always chasing him grrrr), so I am always trying to build him up and reminding him how beautiful he is, on the inside and out. I don't give him shallow compliments--instead I try to remind him of all the ways in which he is so admirable on a soul level...I know he appreciates this more than he can express.

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Well I am happy that I chimed in I have not been on here that much and when I am, I am usually just reading..They can be a piece of work but its worth it in the end..

I have been through so much with this one my head spins when thinking about it..We laugh at times when we think back to all the fights and silly things that we have done and still might do..

I have alot of Aqua in my chart so I do alot of things Aquaria style my self..Moon,merc,Venus and rising all in Aqua..I believe what gives this relationship of ours so much depth and intensity might be his NN conjunct my Venus..The really hard stuff yet the stuff that sticks us is my Saturn conjunct his moon and Venus..But the best I think is the Moon/Venus conjunction to his Sun and of Course that Venus/Mars conjunction we have in Aries..GRRRRRR it can really set off some fireworks between us good and bad.

This relationship is very Karmic and I was told we were married in a pastlife..I can see that but I lean towards more of just thinking that we are meant to be..I have broken up with him more times then I can remember and every time we get back together and when we do its better then the last time..But right now I am really working on me to be a better person not for him but just over all I have been doing alot of soul searching. We have to get this right because if we don't try it will just be harder on us and seperation will take place again..He is not the most spiritual person in the world but even he knows somethings..

So I wish the best of luck with your Aqua and if you need some insight feel free to reach me, I hope I can help..I kind feel like and expert but I never think I have him figured out bc just when I do BAM that old Uranus takes over.

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