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Topic: (IQ) Astrology for Film Directors.
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Agent_009
Knowflake Posts: 114
From: LA & Vancity
Registered: May 2009
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posted November 09, 2009 05:33 AM
 
This is somewhat a continuation from the thread, "Astrology for Acting."
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/202500-2.html IQ had suggested a separate thread for this topic:
"I am still researching for Director's placements, many would match with Actors placements. Squares will create better intensity.
We should have a separate thread for this topic. I have some new ideas for Directors." Alright IQ & all you other knowflakes, take it away! I'm curious to hear your ideas. IP: Logged |
aka Kat
Knowflake Posts: 185
From: Cleveland, Ohio
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 09, 2009 07:11 PM
http://www.filmsite.org/bestdirs2.html Sag
Spielberg
Hitchcock
Woody Allen
George Stevens Aqua/Cap
D.W. Griffith Aqua-John Ford
Frank Lloyd
Joseph Mankiewicz Aries
Francis Ford Coppola Taurus
Frank Capra
Robert Zemeckis
James L. Brooks Gemini
Howard Hawks Cancer
William Wyler
George Cukor leo
Stanley Kubrick
Cecil B. DeMille
Roman Polanski virgo
Oliver stone
tim burton
Richard Attenborough libra
Lewis Milestone scorp
Martin Scorsese
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iQ
Knowflake Posts: 742
From: Chennai, India
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 10, 2009 04:58 AM
Thanks for starting the topic Agent!
and good list AkaKat.My approach for analyzing Directors will be based by first studying the directors who
created the maximum consciousness shift in the maximum number of people.
Second we can see the innovators, the first Directors to adopt innovation in filmmaking or bold stories. All the major directors are listed in the site given by Aka Kat. I have picked for now:
Orson Welles
William Wyler
Cecil B Demille
Stanley Kubrick
Spielberg
Lucas
James Cameron
Fellini
Kurosawa
Sergio Leone
Raymond Chow
Satyajit Ray
Robert Rodriguez
Tarantino
Scorcese
Sam Raimi
Spike Lee Hypothesis:
Younger directors who have the name of a Master Director conjunct Sun. Moon or Ascendant will find more success as they activate the "Law of Attraction" for being a great director. People whose charts have planets controlling Neptune will make good directors as they can manage the Piscean/Neptunian aspects of difficult actiors.
Example: Cappies with Saturn trine Neptune, Sags with Jupiter trine Neptune etc Asteroids responsible for gifting Actors with talent can aspect Saturn for Directors.
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aka Kat
Knowflake Posts: 185
From: Cleveland, Ohio
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 10, 2009 07:28 AM
So you don't think Hitchcock impacted people in a maximum way ? I know people today who hate birds and had fears taking a shower alone.IP: Logged |
Agent_009
Knowflake Posts: 114
From: LA & Vancity
Registered: May 2009
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posted November 10, 2009 07:33 AM
Kat,
interesting there's only 1 Gemini on the list, because it's somewhat a known/accepted fact amongst film people that Sagg's & Gemini's, followed by Virgos make good Dir's...kind of like the stereotype Leo's make good actors. IQ,
That's really interesting you point out the Cappy. It instantly reminded me of one Dir I worked more closely with than any other so far. He's well known in Hollywood & sits on "one of the director's boards," as chairman. I cant say who, but I'll post his chart up anyways. He's actually very psychic (but refuses to ever give me any readings), and he attracts a lot of ghosts on set lol...which sometimes did freak me out a bit. He's honestly one of the nicest higher-ups I've met by far. I think we get along so well cuz my IC & moon are in Cap, conj with few of his planets. IQ, as you may recall...I have 12H Sun sq. 3H Neptune. That doesnt really sound too good for controlling Neptune. I do have Venus-Pluto sextiling Neptune. What other good aspects might I need to over compensate for the Sun sq. Nep? Call it a coincidence, but last night I was having coffee with the Dir I'm currently working for...and he brought up the topic what is essential for becoming a Dir. Asides from uniqueness, & basically comes down to OCD kind of passion. (What kind of aspects create OCD??). He told me one of his friends was so desperate to get his very first film made, he had turned to the mafia for $5mill. The mafia wanted $10mill back after a year. His film flopped and he literally had to run for his life, leaving Europe for America. In the end, Woody Allen & others held a fundraising to save his life lol.
We also talked about Michael Moore, which I'd actually like to see on your list. He's the first & highest grossing doc filmaker ever. Despite being hated by many, he's just about the only doc filmaker who's actually able to get funding easily (& with almost every film he makes, a track record success). Even M. Night cant get funding that easily anymore, after his last few flops. Moore has brought up many socio-economic issues, and because of his films, change has been implemented. People call him nosey...he strikes me as very plutonian, investigating into every detail. His personality is definitely unique & he's also charismatic on camera. Believe it or not, one of the biggest challenges of doc filmaking is whether the person your interviewing has camera presence/charisma. There's been times we had to scrap footage of key interviewees just cause they were lacking. OK and I will check to see if Dir-names are conj anything in my chart...it'll probably take awhile lol.  IP: Logged |
Agent_009
Knowflake Posts: 114
From: LA & Vancity
Registered: May 2009
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posted November 10, 2009 08:28 AM
IQ,OK nevermind, didnt take that long afterall, as I couldnt even find most DIR-asteroid names. Out of the small handful I've found, only asteroid Spielberg in 17deg Cappy, makes aspects to my: - conj. Cappy Moon 21 deg...& my IC 10deg (maybe not conj IC, too wide an orb).
- trine Virgo Sun 16deg.
- square Libra Jupiter 13 deg.
- square Libra asteroid Talent 16 deg. Interesting it's asteroid Spielberg. When I was a kid, watching Schindler's List in the theater was probably the film that really launched my interest in live action film (asides from Disney films). I've always felt somewhat drawn to him, cuz his calm demeanor in interviews kind of remind me of myself. Maybe the personality thing is a coincidence, we're both born on a 9 day (18 for him). Asteroid Lucas (George Lucas) 19deg Gemini:
- square Virgo Sun 16deg.
- oppose Sagg Neptune 22deg.
- semi-sq Leo Mars 4deg.
- trine Libra Pluto 22deg. I also reeeeally liked George Lucas back when I still worked in CGI, as he's known as the godfather of CGI. I even considered working for Lucas Arts & interviewed with them. Re-edit: I just checked asteroid Disney at 4deg Cappy, which is making aspects to my chart too: - square Libra Asc 8deg.
- square Libra Mercury & Saturn 9deg.
- quintile Libra Pluto 22deg.
- conj. IC 10deg (maybe?) Funny, Disney films was the real reason I went into film related in the first place. It was my dream to work for Disney, but after that goal was achieved...I got bored lol. However I still go to Disneyland at least once a year...just to walk around and re-energize, it's kind of my source of inspiration. Even though Walt Disney was a racist...I still think he was a brilliant director (but stronger entrepreneur). In the entertainment industry he's still recognized as one of the 20th century's greatest story tellers...which is a key element in directing.
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iQ
Knowflake Posts: 742
From: Chennai, India
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 11, 2009 03:52 AM
Asteroid SPIELBERG is the first thing I was about to suggest!AkaKat,
Hitchcock is no doubt a Master Director, I hope to study him in the psychological thriller category. He may have strong aspects to Nessus or even Ixion. IP: Logged |
aka Kat
Knowflake Posts: 185
From: Cleveland, Ohio
Registered: Jun 2009
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posted November 11, 2009 05:53 PM
Since film is really a collaborative art, I think it is important to recognize directors that are good at directing actors. Meaning, films that impact people usually have to do with the story, directing could contribute to storytelling yes, but would the director be great even with a bad script. Would the director be as good if the director of photography was lacking? Would someone like Michael Moore be effective with actors in fiction???IP: Logged |
Agent_009
Knowflake Posts: 114
From: LA & Vancity
Registered: May 2009
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posted November 12, 2009 08:32 AM
Right, collaborative art...which is why "Best Picture," is awarded to how well the movie overall was pieced together, despite all these separate elements. Best director award is judging not only on how well the actor's performances were brought out, but the overall mood & PACING of a film controlled by the Dir. Now this is why storytelling is so important because the DIR needs to translate that into visual pacing of the film. Just because you have a great script, doesnt necessarily mean it could translate well visually. Usually if you've written the script yourself, it's easier for you to translate. It's the Dir's job to control the overall "concept," for the look & feel of the film. For example, the DOP usually isnt allowed to execute a shot until it's run through by the Dir. Although exceptions are made depending on how well the DOP/DIR understand each other's style and how much the DIR trusts his DOP. However, roles are only more clearly defined like that on a high budget Hollywood film. In most medium to low (indy) budget productions, the Dir's job extends much further. Unfortunately, nowadays you cant become a bonified DIR until you've made a successful indy. It's true that in 'general,' Dir's dont need to fully understand the DOP's job...however it's very essential in low budget films. They have to know how to work cameras/lights inorder to express to the DOP a desired look. You need to learn how to produce (so you dont get screwed making your low budget film). You need to keep up with your acting classes, because you cant direct acting unless you understand it. Only MTV & commercial DIR's dont have to focus on mastering acting, they're simply known as drill sergeants. I would think the aspects responsible for the ability to direct actors would be pretty much the same as having acting talent (as IQ had mentioned previously). You can only direct as well as you can act...it's all about intuition. Although I think what might differ in a Dir & Actor's chart is....DIR's probably have stronger military leader type aspects. In general the industry compares DIR's to miltary leaders. You definitely need the ability to command and keep all the different crews on set together. It's a circus in there, especially when there's huge clashes of egos. I think that is the most challenging part of directing...dealing with people overall. Before you could go cruise control only focusing on actors, everyone else on set has to be getting along.
I agree Hitchcock is a master too. Although he doesnt have much influence on my generation cuz the films are much too outdated. However we've still had to study his films back in filmschool. I think to the current film world, he's just mostly known as the original innovator of quite a few camera moves, and using pacing to create suspense. IP: Logged | |
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