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comica23
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posted November 09, 2009 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Is anyone familiar with the following method?

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The method of Deha given by Maharishi Jaimini in Upadesha Sutra is infallible in predicting the fertility or procreative ability of the native. Pt. Rath explains this in the following words-

“This method is based on the Rasi chart. Determine the arudha padas of the third and ninth house from the Lagna and the Sun. The arudha padas of the 3rd and 9th from the Sun (AS3 and AS9) constitute the ability to sustain the Atma (soul- signified by Sun) in the form of Sperm (i.e., the sperms should have life in them). The arudha padas of the third and ninth from the Lagna (A3 and A9) constitute the physical ability to procreate. If the Sun is in the 2
nd, 6th, 8th or 12th houses from any of these padas, the same can be damaged resulting to infertility. Similarly, if Venus and Mercury conjoin these padas, they produce infertility. If either of these two padas is not damaged, childbirth is delayed and not denied. If the padas from Lagna are afflicted as above, medical attention is required and the astrologer should not attempt remedial measures unnecessarily. However, if the affliction is from the padas from Sun, then astrological remedial measures are necessary.”


Source: http://www.scribd.com/doc/282749/Jyotish-and-Progeny

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posted November 09, 2009 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
I think that you need to draw up a vedic chart for that. Its a different chart altogether.

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posted November 09, 2009 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, you have to draw a vedic chart for that. In astro.com, you have to select "whole signs" in the house system option, and "Hindu/Lahiri geocentric (sidereal)" in the zodiac option (which is to choose to draw a sidereal chart).

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posted November 10, 2009 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Oh my god i just did it and all my planets went into gemini. No wonder i feel like a lunatic.

Whats the pada's and lagna's ?? I would look into it but i dont understand how they calculate it.

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posted November 10, 2009 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Lagna means ascendant, and arudha pada is the house that represents how the original house is perceived by the outside world/others. For example, A3 is the arudha pada of the 3rd house of your chart. It is calculated by counting how many signs/houses the ruler of your house is, and then count the number obtained from the ruler to another sign/house. The sign/house obtained is the arudha pada of the original house.

An example of the calculation of arudha pada:

- your 3rd house is Pisces - so the ruler is Jupiter.
- Jupiter is in Cancer/7th house, so the distance between your 3rd house and Jupiter is 5 signs/houses (the 3rd house itself - the starting house - counts as the first itself).
- count 5 houses/signs from Cancer - it ends up in Scorpio/11th house. This is your A3 (arudha pada of your 3rd house).

But there are exceptions:
- the arudha pada of a house can't be in the same house or in the opposed house (in the previous example, it couldn't be in the 3rd house/Pisces or 9th house/Virgo). If this happens when counting, choose the 10th house from the obtained house (in other words, if it ended up in Pisces, choose the 10th sign from it, which is Sagittarius; if it ended up in Virgo, choose Gemini).


If you want, you can post your chart that I can calculate it for you. X3

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posted November 10, 2009 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
ok do you also need a date of when i fell pregnant to confirm a fertile period?

9th july 1983 10:41am Sydney australia

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posted November 10, 2009 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Your AC in the vedic chart is Virgo (3º05' degrees), so your 3rd house is Scorpio. Its A3 is in Capricorn. Since Sun is in the 6th house from it, A3 is afflicted. But A9 is safe, since your A9 is in Leo, and Sun is 11 signs away from it (your 9th house is Taurus, and its ruler Venus is in the 4 signs away from it so according to an exception rule, your A9 is Leo).
So overall, according to the method, you're safe, thought one of the padas being afflicted can mean delays.

But well, you already have kids, right? Did you have any difficulties during pregnancy or giving birth?

Actually, some astrologers doesn't use the exception rules, so that they would still use the obtained house even if it is the same or the opposite of the original house. But it does seems more accurate to use the exception rules.

But well, I don't really think that this method is always accurate. I've done a small research with astro.com's data bank, and although the majority seems to fit in the theory of this method, there were a few cases in which some people had kids even if their charts were afflicted.

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posted November 11, 2009 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Thankyou for calculating my chart so according to that rule i shouldnt have children? Because i fell pregnant in 2008 but i miscarried and ive been trying for ages. So i guess im not meant to have them?

It says that the astrologer shouldnt attempt to help them if one of them is afflicted and mine is.

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posted November 11, 2009 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
now i feel upset but ive given up trying this month. Im blessed with a beautiful cat and if god doesnt want to give me a child then im still grateful for what i do have. Im petrified of pushing out a baby and i think im that scared and stressed over it that it doesnt happen. I want to have a c-section and in australia they dont let you pick. I was given clomid to conceive but i didnt take it cause of the bad side effects like moodiness, likely to have twins and visual disturbances, hot flushes etc. It helps me knowing im better off giving up!

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posted November 11, 2009 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
No! According to this method, you can have children but it will just be delayed! I'm sorry I've caused confusion. >_< I've been confused with this method myself, as I have one of the padas afflicted as well, while the other pada would have been afflicted too if the exception rules weren't applied (some astrologers doesn't apply it, but I've found out that it's more accurate to apply it). But well, don't worry! We are both fine from this method lol.

According to the method, if someone has one of the padas afflicted, then he/she should go to a doctor to check if there's any physical problem regarding to fertility (like blocked fallopian tubes or something else). But it's only when 2 padas are afflicted that it might mean infertility.

But even so, I've found a few cases in which some people had kids even if both of their padas were afflicted, so this proved that this method isn't always accurate.

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posted November 11, 2009 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
It kind of worried me but i have been pregnant in the past now when i want it, it doesnt want to come. But honestly ive thrown out the charts and calandars and im over it now lol. Its too much of a headache!!

I havent even falled pregnant yet and i have all these questions in my head like will i get really fat when pregnant and will i get stretch marks and what if i dont like my baby and what if i get depressed after and blah blah and i feel like screamingggggggg!!

Does it work for men as well? Maybe my bf is the problem im gonna see if i can do his one.

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posted November 11, 2009 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm it's better to consult a real doctor rather than looking at the charts, as charts aren't always accurate, and they might just put more useless worries rather than helping.

I'm not married yet, but I've also wondered about those things, and how it would be when I get pregnant. But I was kinda worried about my chart when I came across this fertility prediction method, that it got me haunted for a few days (I'm a Virgo AC too lol)!

This method should also apply to men too, but in any cases, it's better to consult a doctor to know where the problem really is, rather than speculations from charts.

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