posted November 14, 2009 04:45 AM         

Oh that tough exterior- and laidbackness- it almost feels like nothing moves them..

almost..unless u concentrate and pick up the small gradual vibes and signals........

posted November 14, 2009 05:05 AM         

My friend was a Cancer and she was really direct and it worked for her

I wasn't direct it took us 3 months to finally start dating !

But I'd say just be a little direct and use some compliments like how cute and sexy he is or that you need a bf like him etc

posted November 14, 2009 05:13 AM         

because i am not direct either......

posted November 14, 2009 05:47 AM         

I'm a scorpio and I really liked him a lot but I couldn't even tell my friends about it ! Luckily, at the end of a 3 month period he asked a friend whether it would ever be possible that I'd date him Then one day when we were out I couldn't hold it any longer so we got kind of close and started kissing

posted November 14, 2009 01:12 PM         

But he s born on the cusp (20th of jan) - i dunno what time- so he could be an aqua, and when i described to him both aqua and cap he feels like both.

We met in drama class - so we re kind of both artsy fartsy. He just finished engineering school and is looking for a job- but chilling- not the typical cappie at all also partly wants to be an actor...

So we ve been always getting along during drama class for a year now, but had always underestimated his potential i guess because of how quiet he is socially...... but lately the more we talk the more we find in common- and we have this amazing intellectual connections and conversations...

WE live really close by, so we started hanging out as well, and the first time we were alone having coffee for a long time was really nice..just a flow of magical convo if u know what i mean,,,,and it only hit me then... **** I REALLY LIKE hiM, and ever since then we ve both been awkward...

In drama class there s this tension now - but all i know is that whenever he sees me he ends his sentences wiht " i ll be seeing you around right?"

but nothing seems to really MOVE him if u know what i mean..

and ever since this awkward neither of us has contacted one another..and i m worried its because he realised oh thtis is not pure friendship so let me run away, but part of me thinks its in my head and he s reacting to my awkwardness

but yes if i would do it my way i would just hang out with him loads, and see what naturally happens......

wow scorpio cappie yeah i like- i m not telling any of my friends either

i am pisces - with sag rising, and venus in aries

posted November 14, 2009 03:19 PM         

You can never quite tell whether they like you as a person or if there's more..

But if you feel like you sensed something it might actually be true -since you're a pisces !- so you could suggest hanging out again !

btw- after we broke up with the cappie he went on to date a pisces girl and their relationship lasted much longer

posted November 14, 2009 05:04 PM         

she points out that throughout nature it is the female who decides who she will mate with (my mom used to say the same thing) and that though we have been indoctrinated to think HE must make the first move, men are basically at the mercy of women who have chosen them. of course there has to be compatability to make it stick...!

posted November 15, 2009 07:37 PM         

If he isn't motivated to do anything still, then there may be something else involved that's keeping him from getting involved with you. It could be that he's unsure about you, or it could be something else altogether.

I get what you mean about nothing moving him. You'll have to spend some real quality time with him to get there. It's not really his natural place. In fact, I kind of enjoy being around and observing more emotional people as it's a bit foreign to me.

posted November 15, 2009 10:18 PM         

perhaps i should add a proviso (apart from the one already added) that making a first move is not necessarily a big, obvious thing...and i rather oversimplified to keep things brief!!

i seriously appreciate your objections to the waitress's approach, randall, MANY men would not have that good a "big" picture ...and i always wonder at mothers who will go out with ANYONE, force them on the child, and then 6 months later IF he is not really damaging, bad news, the breakup IS. very sad.

posted November 16, 2009 02:52 AM         

Wohow= thank you all

I have updates for u and replies to ur comments.

So yesterday it had been a while since either of us had contacted one another. I sent him a casual text asking what he s up to. So he called me and said he s meeting a common friend of ours and i should come - and that he can leave in half an hour, so maybe we can meet first then this friend cd join us.

And just half an hour later we met. i was sitting on a couch infront of a table with several seats around me. But made a point to keep the couch space next to me free to see if he d sit next to me or not. And he did. We started having our bizarre convos (quick witt ones with a bunch of phiosophy and sarcasm in them) And then we got preoccupied by a fly on my head that he wanted to kill - that was quite exciting. Something was awkward thoguh I was scared of him and I got the feeling he was scared of me- but that just added sexual tension.

What scared me more is when we spoke bout our religious beliefs, and he seemed abit more traditional than me ( and he seemed aware that he s scaring me, and kind of wanted to put it out there on purpose) i tried to hide my fear because i have no issue with whoever believing whatever as long as its personal and they accept ev one else..but i cdnt help it scaring me, and as a pisces being tempted to just drift away...

Then our friend came and we all had a cozy time talking bout life, relationships, addiction,.....and we always picked up each other's points in an instant ( him and i)..... he d keep saying i understand exactly what u mean.... then they had to go to a course and iw as stayign behind wiht my laptop to do work... n complained of having no headphones to listen to music so he insisted to leave me his and said he d take them back later..... and we had our quality goodbye kiss on the cheek (coz sometimes ppl just rush those right? but i make a point of not rushing it with him and his r good tooo) and as usual he said his famous phrase "I will see you around yeah?"

And we spoke bout astrology and i managed to get his birth info and have his chart below.

But u know what- there s a limit to how much i ll adapt to him.. i see what u all mean, but i have my quirks too and ppl shd learn to adapt to it.. i dunno i am a bit scared of him but very attracted to him..want to see more of him so much but want to hide as welll.. but i m just so happy to be around him i cant explain it...

swirl-kitt: Yes i do sense something but i m not extremely bossy nor extremely flirty... its not like me, I am a strong woman and I do give that impression - but i prefer connecting with men on an intellectual/personal level first in a human to human way, and throughout give subtle hints- not by talking but more like the looking and the physical contact v subtle

Katatonic: v interesting - i actually believe when 2 ppl have chemistry its the woman that s consciously aware of it first...not that she chooses him but more like she has more access to knowing these things... but the chemistry is not there n she still chooses him its not the same i cant explain it

AcousticGod: That's exactly what i am doing because that is what i naturally do....And i do feel that he is responding but verrrrrrrrrrrrry slowwwwwwly and extreeeeeeemely subtly as well. And even thoguh he is super chilled on the outside i do feel like in his chilled cave he has become more self conscious infront of me

Randall: I am cautious and not direct in that sense at all. Maybe too cautious even...and am used to being the female chased by the male if u know what i mean- despite my strong exterior...so this is why there s a limit to how much i will give, and all my moves are more like facilitations to get someone in the net, not to actuallhy make a move on them...but the process seems lengthy with this cappy and i m worried bout getting bored

PeaceAngel: See the problem is i dont like making someone feel secure that i m interested in them unless i am secure they r interested in me so its a tough one

Our charts

him:
un Capricorn 7°52'29 in house 4
Moon Sagittarius 20°10'40 in house 3
Mercury Sagittarius 29°53'33 end of house 3
Venus Scorpio 22°14'53 in house 2
Mars Pisces 23°16'50 in house 6
Jupiter Pisces 17°10'58 in house 6
Saturn Sagittarius 15°08'47 in house 3
Uranus Sagittarius 23°28'28 in house 3
Neptune Capricorn 5°36'26 in house 4
Pluto Scorpio 9°24'26 in house 2
True Node Aries 17°14'18 in house 7
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Libra 1°33'32
2nd House Libra 29°26'17
3rd House Scorpio 29°53'39
Imum Coeli Capricorn 1°38'29
5th House Aquarius 3°24'07
6th House Pisces 3°49'56
Descendant Aries 1°33'32
8th House Aries 29°26'17
9th House Taurus 29°53'39
Medium Coeli Cancer 1°38'29
11th House Leo 3°24'07
12th House Virgo 3°49'56

ME:

planet sign degree
Sun Pisces 19°03'25 in house 3
Moon Pisces 10°51'20 in house 3
Mercury Aries 0°51'29 in house 4
Venus Aries 0°59'04 in house 4
Mars Sagittarius 20°23'12 in house 1
Jupiter Pisces 4°07'27 in house 3
Saturn Sagittarius 9°37'43 end of house 12
Uranus Sagittarius 22°14'13 in house 1
Neptune Capricorn 5°35'00 in house 1
Pluto Scorpio 7°07'11 in house 11
True Node Taurus 0°34'56 in house 5
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Sagittarius 11°53'57
2nd House Capricorn 13°43'48
3rd House Aquarius 19°09'30
Imum Coeli Pisces 24°14'26
5th House Aries 24°35'00
6th House Taurus 19°44'38
Descendant Gemini 11°53'57
8th House Cancer 13°43'48
9th House Leo 19°09'30
Medium Coeli Virgo 24°14'26
11th House Libra 24°35'00
12th House Scorpio 19°44'38

posted November 16, 2009 06:33 AM         

'he d keep saying i understand exactly what u mean'

- The bf I mentioned used to say that a lot too and I loved that ! I think it's a sign that he's really into you !!!

His placements are the same as my ex except for his mars was in libra. Mars in pisces would be even more subtle I guess.

If he's anything like my ex though, you'll really need to be the one to shape the relationship into whatever you like because moon in sag people will want to respect your freedom more than their own !

posted January 18, 2010 09:54 AM         

Recently went out with this Capri guy I've known for a while on 2 dates. Both times he insisted on paying for me. I thot that means he likes me! But then he stopped asking me out again...? We still speak online once in a while (like before we went on the 2 dates) and everything seems fine...

posted January 18, 2010 12:11 PM         

I did not "get" him, he got me.
He pretty much followed me around, showed up at my work and wherever else I went.

He was always there to help me with my problems, and in that way we became friends first.
We dated on and off for five years until I gave in, and then we got married.

My Mother says he pestered me into falling in love with him, and that is about right.

posted January 18, 2010 01:57 PM         

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Recently went out with this Capri guy I've known for a while on 2 dates. Both times he insisted on paying for me. I thot that means he likes me! But then he stopped asking me out again...? We still speak online once in a while (like before we went on the 2 dates) and everything seems fine...

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Could you give us a little more information about what went on during the dates? It would be easier to distinguish what happened. Just because a guy pays for your dates doesn't mean he's into you. Hate to say it, but it's true. I have guy friends who INSIST on paying even if we just go out for coffee, and they are only friends.

It's interesting that this subject has come up again since I too have been flirting with a Capricorn lately. I met this guy at the salsa nights I've been going to.

What I've observed is this:

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As Capricorn male, I think you should let him know via some subtle means. If he knows it will probably make him more intrigued, and push things along.

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That is very true. This guy is extremely subtle, and uses body language more than words. Because I'm a Virgo, I like subtle flirting better anyway and I am able to use it to great effect myself.

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I disagree with the notion that we like bossy girls. Shy and extremely flirty is cool.

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Agreed. ONCE I tried to go up to him and be my sometimes jokingly bossy Aries Moon self and tell him he should dance with me. Didn't work out so well. However, I realized that if I simply go up to him and say "Hi, how are you?" he'll reply with a "Good. Would you like to dance?" HE likes to be the initiator since he's a cardinal sign.

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What scared me was her lack of cautiousness...and patience.

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I think that's the HUGE thing with a Capricorn who is taking you seriously and who is not seeing you just as some type of fling (because I HAVE dated a Cappie that was just a fling, and it's not the same).

I've been flirting with this guy for a while now and I've noticed that he is trying to get to know me gradually. In the past, that might have worried me. I have a lot of fire in my chart and I enjoy being spontaneous and I tend to jump into things with both feet.

However, having done that and having gotten burned in both of my most recent dating relationships, I told myself that the next person I dated would be someone who I took the time to get to know first, and all of a sudden Mr. Cappy appears! He must have heard me thinking it. lol.

I can tell by the way he TESTS me that he is considering asking me out (never mind the fact that he jokingly said he was thinking about asking me out). Saturn is the great tester right? I'm just giving him the space and information to allow him to be comfortable with me, but show that I'm not going to put up with foolishness and I'm not out to trap just anybody in a relationship (because I'm NOT trying to be with just anybody in a relationship; been there, done that). It's really kind of a balancing act.

I actually like the quality of Cappys that makes them unmovable and laidback. I feel like I know where I stand with them because when they FINALLY decide to tell you, you know that they really mean it.

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but all i know is that whenever he sees me he ends his sentences wiht " i ll be seeing you around right?"

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posted January 18, 2010 03:33 PM         

Same here - 18 years, separated, but still legally married - wore me down, stuck to me like glue (even if I was vile) until I agreed to make a life with him, but unlike you he never really 'got' me.

My experience - they don't really like to chase too hard, they like to know you are in to them, but in a shy subtle way. They won't approach unless they think it's a sure bet. Sorry for any offence AG, but I get the impression they go for the easy option, they don't like trying too hard to figure out what's going on in your head?

posted January 18, 2010 04:34 PM         

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Recently went out with this Capri guy I've known for a while on 2 dates. Both times he insisted on paying for me. I thot that means he likes me! But then he stopped asking me out again...?

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If he asked you out on two dates - maybe he thinks it's ball in your court now.

I have a Capricorn Moon and Mars (but my Sun is Aries which is drastically different lol).. I had a similar experience with a Pisces Sun (Capricorn Moon and Asc) guy.
This was years ago lol

I went out with him a couple of times. Everything was great. But he stopped calling.
I didn't think much of it because I had exams and other stuff happening at the time.
Two months later it clicked to me that this person hadn't called at all. I remembered our last conversation (the last time I'd seen him).. and he was saying that he had doubts whether I wanted to see him again etc.. I was saying "yeah! Of course I want to see you etc.."

Anyway I gave him a call and he seemed annoyed with me. I let this go.

Months later we bumped into each other again and had a coffee and he told me how he actually felt rejected and talked to some of his female friends etc as to why I wasn't *calling*. He didn't want to be the person to always ask me out.. because in his mind that meant I was going along with things to be polite/nice - while I actually didn't like him.

I don't know whether this is a Capricorn thing.. I mean it could be a Pisces thing as well ^ .. or it could be just common sense. I guess if one person always sets dates and the other doesn't, they can get the idea the other person doesn't like them all that much.

From a Cap's perspective (perhaps it's not so much a self-esteem issue, though it could be) but he might get the idea you're unable to take the initiative.. and further - that in a relationship he'll always be the one giving and you'll always be the one taking.

I'd ask him out to somewhere really nice *and* pay.

I think it's a test ^

posted January 18, 2010 04:43 PM         

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but I get the impression they go for the easy option, they don't like trying too hard to figure out what's going on in your head

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I think most cardinal people (I have a predominance in cardinal) like and respect others who *know* what they want. If you seem unsure, if you simply don't know what you want in life in general.. this can be a put of for Capricorn. It's not because it makes you an easy option..

I'm an Aries sun and I never "chase" nor do I have a desire to (Cap Moon & Mars - possibly Taurus Venus). This isn't because I want something "easy". Rather I want something genuine and honest. I don't play games. Either you're there completely - or you're not. Don't expect me to chase you - because I've outgrown high school lol

posted January 18, 2010 04:57 PM         

Capricorns are fascinating, really. I think they're perhaps one of the most overlooked and underestimated signs. They don't get enough coverage-- which can be sexy and mysterious, but can also lead to great misconceptions. In my personal opinion, they're just as sensitive as Cancers, but they bring it inward instead of expressing it openly.

Having said that, I'd like to point out that you shouldn't try to change yourself to attain someone. If it's not YOU doing all of this, and you put on a facade, he may not want the real you when you finally get him. And if you have to jump through hoops to get him, YOU may not want the real him.

In your case Fiery, however, I would say that you have a great chance. You just need to quit beating around the bush and go for it. The worst thing that can happen is that he'll say "No," and just want to be friends. You won't die, and it won't be the end of the world. I'd rather regret doing something, than not doing something, and I think this applies to your situation.