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mercuranian
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posted November 20, 2009 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message
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what would you say of his style in relationships?
Notice the 2 tsquares in his chart.

also how would you describe the relationship between these 2? or the purpose of it?

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scrappydog
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posted November 20, 2009 05:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message
That sun, mars, uranus t square could definately be abusive. Very explosive and unpredictable anyway. Usually I relate hard mars saturn and hard mars pluto aspects with the most abusive. More subtle, nebulous abuse, like a poisoner, would be hard mars neptune aspects.

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Diana
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posted November 20, 2009 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
If you have to ask.....

I agree with the above post. I always think mars/neptune is overlooked and sometimes is the most dangerous. It can indicate an irrational anger that overwhelms the person, making them lose their mind, thus leading to abuse.

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amowls*
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posted November 20, 2009 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
I mean...

My last boyfriend was definitely emotionally abusive, but he never laid a finger on me. He had a a Mars, Venus, Pluto tsquare (with Venus at the apex).

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mercuranian
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posted November 20, 2009 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the replies...

Scrappydog--Yes he is definetely explosive and unpredictable, I thought it was kind of amusing at first. But that other t square involving moon, venus and neptune makes him romantically delusional as well.

Amowls--how long did you date your emotionally abusive ex? yes, i started seeing subtle emotional abuse. They say it always precedes the physical. Got out before things could get anywhere ugly. With his pluto square my venus and my venus pluto square, i could see how i could have allowed myself to be humiliated and keep allowing it eventually so i got out quick (3 months). Decided I don't want to be a masochist anymore.

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The Duke
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posted November 20, 2009 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Duke     Edit/Delete Message
the individual t square in chart 1 is no sign of abuse. restless energy, yes and probably outbursts.. may be a very nervous person or one with ADD or perhaps tourettes.

in the composite yes.. the greatest indicator of abuse is mars in hard aspect to pluto. not saturn. the aspects to saturn just kinda create a stifling feeling to it. especially with the saturn conjunctions going on there..

if they have the square between pluto and mars it may be karmic and they may be projecting onto themselves certain roles for each to fulfill..

it may be more obvious while in sexual engagement. if ur one of the charts above, play close attention to how the interaction is during sex. its powerful, strong and very steamy but look at things like who's aggressive, or whos submissive, dominant etc.. it'll kinda give u a clue as to how the mars/pluto plays out in your regular lives and what role each of you take.

with the chirons being so prominent in the composite. this is something that needs to worked through for healing and yes, pain will be involved..

it's almost as if neither one can pretend around one another. they know the other can just get to them very easy. idk how i feel about that relationship to me, it sounds like it may be a bit too close for comfort.. at least for my taste.

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iQ
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posted November 21, 2009 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
The guy has very deep emotional wounds with Sun conj Chiron in 6th. Hard aspects would make himeventually vent these inner hurts on other vulnerable people.
It was very smart of you to have got out so soon.

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mercuranian
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posted November 21, 2009 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you IQ! just what i needed to hear...

and yes The Duke--there was no way to pretend or lie to each other, impossible. although the chart is synastry not composite.

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popcorn
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posted November 21, 2009 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
My on off relationship which ended in juni 09.

His N stellim Sun/Chiron/saturnus/lust/siva (pises)
opp N uranu/pluto in square to jupit (t-square).

He been abused in his childhood. He was the most friendly man. He never be bad for any woman in that way.

Maybe he abused his self. I'm not sure. Me seems he like alcohol to much

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