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Alvarella777
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posted November 21, 2009 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Hi people out there, I am bit anxious about two upcoming transits (loooong running transits) to my chart. The books usually describe them as 90% negative - and I definitely need to learn about some positive features about these transits ....

We all have experienced that Chiron-Neptune-conj. in the working for quite a while now. Fact is: Beginning in 2010 and way through 2011 Tr. Chrion&Neptune will stand in nasty squares to my ASC in late Scorpio. Even worse, I've got my natal Neptune cj. my ASC (1 dg) in my 1st house.

So I'll have tr. Chiron-Neptune-conj. squaring my natal ASC-Neptune-conjunct. - and this will last for 1.5 years ... I am really, really wary about this! One thing is, I've got some other, wonderful transit-aspect during the same time: tr. Pluto will trine my Venus AND Juno simultaneously for 1.5 years.

So, on the one hand, I am looking forward to some (positive) "love-revolution". On the other hand, I don't know how to rate these nasty squares to this very personal chart-point of mine: my ASC/Nept-cj. (with my DSC on the other side of the chart.... also being squared of course.)

All I read from the books is: Expect personal wounds, confusion, deceit, betrayal, lack of self-will and self-confidence ....

What would you expect from that setting: Your love life (Venus&Juno) getting a boost from Pluto - but at the same time, your "outer persona" and "partner-angle" (ASC/DSC-axis) will be ... weakened?

I really want to prepare for that if possible at all - SO YOUR HELP WOULD BE VERY APPRIECiATED. Thanks in advance!

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popcorn
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posted November 21, 2009 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
When I meet one big love in my life. My daughters father. Togheter with all love progression I also have transit pluto trine my venus wow I say.

When I meet my on off relationship chiron conj my desc and conj his venus. Chiron also opposite my sun and squre my karma.. It was really strong feelings in the beginning. I loved it.

I have chiron/neptun trine my venus/NN/mars in next year. I also have uranus in square to that stellium....surprise

I don't think that aspect you have next year are something to be scared of. Instead of that you can be sure something will be happend.

I think chiron are alike uranus, there is a garanti on some events.

Neptun are so subtle and I not allways sure I'm feel it. The only I know are when neptunus are in positiv transit I often feel big harmony.. In square I'm not allways feel it.

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amowls*
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posted November 21, 2009 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Neptune conjunct my Sun made me not have any sense of who I was. But this happened when I was a teenager. Neptune conjunct my Mercury made me not able to concentrate on anything school related. Sucks because THIS IS HAPPENING NOW WHILE IM IN COLLEGE, but thankfully it's going away within the year.

As for Chiron... I can't really tell the influence. Perhaps on my Sun it made me really shy in group situations. Idk.

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Alvarella777
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posted November 21, 2009 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
POPCORN: I like your perception of Chiron very much. You write that you see him more as some "Uranus"-type - and this really helps me.;-) So: Thank you for that thought! It is less frightening, sounds more exciting. In fact, Chiron is an abstract figure for me. I don't "understand" that asteroid very well ...

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Venus De Milo
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posted November 21, 2009 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Venus De Milo     Edit/Delete Message
It sounds to me like you're in for a major romance, perhaps your ideals will be challenged and you'll learn a few chironic lessons.

I wouldn't be afraid! Life is beautiful!

But... I was getting divorced and met the Pisces Psycho when Pluto was transiting my natal Venus/Neptune in 2004/2005... so maybe you should e afraid, after all! LOL!!!

I'm just kidding! Hehehe. Don't be afraid. Just go with it, do your best to be a good and kind person and make the best decisions you can, and be grateful for the lessons you will learn.

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Alvarella777
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posted November 21, 2009 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for those nerve soothing words, VENUS DE MILO! ;-)Aaaah - I take and swallow even the slightest hint - hoping that all won't be so bad. THANKS.

Actually, VENUS, what you wrote about my ideals - "IDEALS WILL BE CHALLENGED" ... I've been consulting a "clairvoyant" lately, more for fun reasons, it was related to a professional project, and I was (and am!) very skeptic. BUT: Without knowing my birthdata or chart, she said I'd meet a great love during the next 12 months ... he'd be mature, probably older and possibly a "public figure" in a way, very powerful. Not the most charming type on first sight. In fact: I'd feel kind of annoyed by his speech at first. I wouldn't like him "at first sight", not at all. He won't be very approachable, "rather the observing kind and silent, he'll take his time to get to know you, he'll watch you and will have difficulties in expressing his feelings", she said. I'd meet him in austere settings, maybe in professional surroundings. He'd be serious about love life in general - and with me. That clairvoyant said it'd be a rough start, not very easy, that it would take patience. BUT: That this might be the love of my life, so I should apply some perseverance then... ;-)

Actually, I am a bit confused about this predection: If I don't like him from the start - how should I engage further, emotionally? Why apply perseverance if I don't like a person? OR: Does that mean, that any rude idiot I meet during the next year will be "my kind of man", haha - at least in my fantasy? Like a self-fulfilling prophecy ...???

No, seriously: With the transits mentioned above I am afraid ... that brilliant chances for renewing my love spirits (via that Pluto-transits) might be spoilt by Chrion&Neptun...

By the way: When Chiron&Neptune will square my ASC/Neptune exactly, they'll be at 27/28° Auqarius - and exactly conjunct/oppose the following Midpoints in my chart

At 27/28° Aqua I have (in 3rd house):
- Moon/Juno
- Moon/Ceres
- Moon/Part of Fortune

At 27/28° Leo I have (in 9th house)
- Pandora
- Sun/Uranus
- Mercury/Pluto
- Mars/Pluto

I JUST HOPE THAT ALL OF THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MY HORRIBLE EX-BOYFRIEND!!!! ;-)

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