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Adam
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posted December 05, 2009 12:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adam     Edit/Delete Message

I was just wondering if anyone can tell me why my brother is depressed and unmarried
Maybe if I know what's wrong I can help him out
Thank you

I don't know his birthtime so I used time unknown
I think he is a Virgo rising

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Adam
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posted December 05, 2009 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adam     Edit/Delete Message

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posted December 05, 2009 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
Yes. It's easy to see why he have the depressed tendency sometimes. He have an t-square moon,saturn,uranus. I also have that aspect and that aspect always force me to change my life in some way. It,s an developing aspect if you use it on best way. He have the moon in gemini as me so I cant believe he stay in the depressed time so long.

I checked out his progressed chart and find he soon 2011-12 get an SA mars square his N venus. He also get other good feelings aspect so it's not looks like he be without love in his life.

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posted December 05, 2009 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adam     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you very much for the reply
I don't think his moon is in Gemini he acts more like a person with moon in Tau

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posted December 05, 2009 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adam     Edit/Delete Message

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posted December 06, 2009 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Does he want to be married? Reading a chart for something like this without a correct time is sort of a shot in the dark, you can really only touch on general aspects..having said, in general:

saturn opp pluto/uranus conj is a generational aspect, yes, and that generation has a rebel inside against a stern personal authority. by just this aspect it is very difficult to settle down, pay attention, and romantically commit. if its an angular opposition, even more so, but thats a hypothetical. jupiter squares the opposition so there's a magnifying of the traits, and added tension, if moon is conj jupiter, the emotional nature is tossed and turned, making it very difficult to feel on an even keel. the women will either need to exhibit his internal tension or he may see it outwardly as erratic relationship patterns. if the moon is really square uranus, saturn, pluto, he needs to access that rebel energy and pour it out somewhere somehow or his relationships will feel likely run amok with him left with nothing to hold onto.

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posted December 06, 2009 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adam     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you very much for the reply

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posted December 06, 2009 06:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
moon in taurus? It,s not easy to guess his right birthday, time, ASC and so on... In the chart you show here the moon in the middles of gemini at that day.

It's more easy to check it out if we know the birthtime..

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posted December 06, 2009 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adam     Edit/Delete Message

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posted December 06, 2009 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
If the Moon is at 16 deg. Gemini at noon it's not possible for it to be in Taurus any time that day. It's Gemini, only a question of degree.

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posted December 07, 2009 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adam     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Lonake

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posted December 07, 2009 04:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
When a Leo is depressed, the Sun is mostly in the 12th House.
Leo = Lights + Ego + Oomph
Jumble the word and you get "OLE!".

The external cheer is their oxygen. Your brother also has Venus and Mercury in Leo, and certainly in the 12th House.

He has "imprisoned" his Ego and put an electric fence of depression around the prison.

He is also not fulfilling his karmic duties of voracious writing, speaking wittily, communicating and plenty of reading.
True Node, Moon and Jupiter are in Gemini with Mars trining True Node, thats a lot of ambition and drive for exploring the Gemini lifestyle. He is suppressing all of this.


Saturn is in Pisces and retrograde, thats a lot of past life debt owing to misuse of occult gifts. And to add to that, he has a 6th sense of knowing about these problems as his Neptune trines Saturn and gives him a bit of psychic-intuitive powers.

The suppressed pressure must be released.

The answer is to mentally and psychologically shift his Ascendant backwards till it gets to late Taurus.
That will free up his Sun, Merc and Venus to be blazingly Geminian and allow the Gemini planets to take first house control.

A Taurus rising loves creature comforts and loves sex.

Your brother needs to selfishly love himself for a while. He needs to give himself a vacation where he can free his suppressed inhibitions and party like only a Geminized Leo can party. Caribbean Isles, Phillipines, Thailand, Rio etc, these kind of exotic locales can reignite a depressed man. He can then write about his adventures, create a social network, be the "man" for younger friends amd make lots more friends than ever.

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posted December 07, 2009 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adam     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you very much for the reply iQ but Why has he imprisoned his Ego ?

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posted December 07, 2009 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
It is a 12th house thing Adam.
He needs to feel accomplished to be the expressive Leo, instead he feels that he is not good enough. He has been self sabotaging his self esteem.

A major positive shake up, Self-Empowerment etc are needed.

Do not forget the role of mass media as well, who program people that if they dont achieve X,Y Z by age 40, then they are losers.

In Biblical times, 150 year olds were considered teenagers. People were very happy in those days even though there was no air conditioning nor mobile phones!

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posted December 07, 2009 09:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adam     Edit/Delete Message
But he is accomplished he is a Chef has worked in several countries has money in the bank and is currently building a small flat. I don't understand.
A little more about him because they say you can tell a persons rising sign by his looks

6'2 tall but then everyone in our family is very tall my father was 6'3 and I am 6'3
Medium built and very helpful

another thing I am worried about is he looks a lot older than 44 depression could be the cause i guess

but then books say that Virgo rising people age slowly

Thank you

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posted December 07, 2009 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
I love his chart and how it fits so nicely with my own. You should introduce us, Adam. A little flirting should cheer him up for a while.

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posted December 07, 2009 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
Ahhh... the power of Mars conjunct Venus...

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posted December 08, 2009 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adam     Edit/Delete Message
lol I would love to introduce him to you but he doesn't use the forum

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posted December 08, 2009 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
If I were 6 feet 2 inches tall, it would take a miracle to make me depressed....

I think he just needs plenty of friends to cheer him up, and a vacation in an exotic locale. Astrologically, there are no negative transits at the moment. Even the Tr Uranus conj Chiron in Pisces is over.

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posted December 08, 2009 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adam     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks again iQ

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posted December 08, 2009 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MysticMelody     Edit/Delete Message
How about MySpace? Facebook?

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posted December 09, 2009 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Adam     Edit/Delete Message
He has a laptop but never uses it and doesn't seem interested in things like the internet

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posted December 09, 2009 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Sounds like he either needs a beautiful woman to bring him out of his deep funk or he needs something inspiring to breathe new life into him, like good news about work or something new to get his attention.

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posted December 09, 2009 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptuneinfirst     Edit/Delete Message
Adam,

So sweet of you to seek help for your brother. I noticed straight away from his chart the conjunction of Chiron and Saturn in Pisces squaring his Moon and NN. He needs to attend to his wounds and his issues, I expect it could be just one incident which made him silently lose hope; it seems he has shut the door on the universe.

Does he find it difficult or impossible to open up to others? I suspect that he finds it difficult to interact with people on an interpersonal level which as IQ states, is essentially suppressing his life force, he is a Leo Sun Gemini Moon, intellectually curious and social - he needs to shine. Is he highly judgmental of himself? I see that his career is beneficial to him, being a chef allows for the expression of the creative side of him. He strongly needs this creative outlet in his life; perhaps you could suggest some kind of evening class in the arts where he can meet like minded people?

I also see the conjunction of Uranus and Pluto in Virgo in his chart. I have noticed this before, though generational, these people can be quite aloof and don't like to be tied down, though their spirit craves intimacy it equally strongly values freedom.

As for Chiron in Pisces, this points towards a need for belief in something which bring meaning to his life, be that love, a belief system or even tools for self-understanding, including Astrology. I feel he’s very curious about life and will probably enjoy exploring and learning more about himself with such a caring brother by his side. I feel being out in the natural environment will be strongly beneficial to him too.

Hope this helps.

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