posted December 07, 2009 12:46 PM            

OH and let`s not forget that the Persona charts are not the tropical, but that it is like focusing a microscope onto one part of the natal, and the Persona charts will only give informations about a particular area.

posted December 07, 2009 12:48 PM            

his AC/my DC
moon cj sun (1)
moon cj karma (0)
moon cj psyche (0)
venus trine mars (0)
mars cj SN (0)
mars cj jupiter/uranus (1)
NN cj destinn (2)
briede cj jupiter/uranus (2)
briede cj SN (0) moon (0)
groom cj venus (0)
destinn cj pluto (0)
union opp groom (3)
AC cj groom (3) opp union (3)

DD, you asked why past life? Is not the Briede on SN mean past life?

posted December 07, 2009 12:51 PM            

to be honest, before looking at the synastries, I would first like to wrap my mind around the concept to see what it really means.

So if you post your synastric aspects, could you give a little interpretation, so we can really understand the nature of persona charts?

I actually think the SN and NN persona charts might be the easiest to understand and interprete for a start.

posted December 07, 2009 01:06 PM            

So the Groom persona is like a blueprint possibly of the ideal Groom for that persona person?

I don't know but i did my CHILD persona with my man and the results were just gobsmacking.

posted December 07, 2009 01:08 PM            

BTW I just had a glance at my NN-chart, and it shows Briede exact on ASC. Does that mean it is my purpose in life (as this is the NN-chart) to become a Bride? lol

posted December 07, 2009 01:23 PM            

his CHILD persona/my natal
*his moon opp my AC (2)
*his venus cj my AC (3)
his saturn cj my juno (1) karma (2)
his saturn opp my sun (2)
*his NN cj my destinn (1)
*his AC cj my nn/saturn (0)
*his AC cj my moon/venus (3)
his IC cj my valentine (1)

ok well on these ones, i think my CHILD cj his PETER exact is pretty mind-blowing!!

I think the AC/NN - karmic and love aspects show that it is of love and destined. Deep love with valentine on IC.

posted December 07, 2009 01:36 PM            

You said on the other thread:

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I wonder if Valentine represents True Love, wouldn`t your True Love have strong aspects to your Valentine persona chart?

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So lets try it.

his VALENTINE persona/my NATAL
his SUN opp my GROOM (1)
his VENUS cj my VALENTINE (1)
his MARS cj my IC (0)
his SATURN opp my MOON/VENUS (2) PETER (3)
his VERTEX opp my MOON/VENUS/PETER (1)
his JUNO cj my CUPID (3)
his VALENTINE cj my BODA (2)
his EROS cj my ASC (1)
his PSYCHE cj my PSYCHE (2)AMOR cj my EROS (2)
his AC opp my PSYCHE (2)
his AC cj my OSIRIS (1)

my VALENTINE persona/his NATAL
my SUN cj his PERSEPHONE (2)
my SUN opp his LUST (0) PETER (1)
my VENUS square his VENUS (0)
my SATURN cj his EROS (2) VENUS (3)
my NN cj his SUN/MOON MP (2)
my JUNO opp his VENUS (0)
my VALENTINE cj his KAALI (3)
my VALENTINE opp his MOON (1)
my KARMA opp his VENUS (2)
my DESTINN opp his BRIEDE (3)
my UNION cj his BRIEDE (2)

sun/groom, venus/valentine, valentine/boda, Union/Briede? LMAO!

I think this proves it works, what do you think?

posted December 07, 2009 02:24 PM            

a conjunction of Valentine and Moira seems to make your true love extremely fated.
In which sign? Which Sabians?

EDIT:
My Valentine Persona chart looks like this:

posted December 07, 2009 02:47 PM            

VALENTINE
24-25 deg Sagittarius
A Chubby Boy On A Hobby-Horse
LOL!

posted December 07, 2009 02:48 PM            

First of all it seems that true love for me has the touch of the unusual, something that falls out of every norm (ASC in Aquarius).
With the ruler in Scorpio it might also be pretty intense and transformative. And of course there is an conflict between Uranus and Pluto, which is imminent in true love for me.

The ASC trines the Venus-Pluto-conjunction in Libra in 8th house. Seems to be like a double Venus-Pluto theme (Venus and Libra, Pluto and Scorpio), giving true love a passionate and even fated touch? Though it is in Libra, so it would probably be more the refined kind of passion.

Moon conjunct Psyche in Gemini in 4th or 5th house (depending on the housesystem)- there seems to be an intellectual, yet very intuitive touch to the emotional core, on which true love is based.

The NN is in Scorpio conjunct Mercury - so what is the purpose of my true love?
Depth, passion, intensity, transformation but also intellectual analysis?
The purpose is gaining an emotional and intellectual understanding of true love?

Neptune is on the MC in Sagittarius (which conjuncts my natal ASC) - MC is the most visible place in a chart, so there is something secretive, creative, imaginative, spiritual about the more palpable goal of true love?

Also there is Eros conjunct Valentine - true love in its purest form (Valentine in the VAlentine persona chart seems to be extra significant, as it carries the pure energy of what the chart is about) is inseparably entangled with the erotic, attraction, creativity, the spark of life.
It is in Capricorn yet in 11th house - true love and attraction is easily found in friendships or larger groups, yet in a rather controlled, reserved way? (Cappy and 11th house).

Juno on Vertex. Hmm life changing events regarding true love are connected to committed true love bonds?

posted December 07, 2009 02:50 PM            

you must be fated to love me and my mind.

posted December 07, 2009 03:02 PM            

And this is between my Valentine Persona and Andy`s natal.

posted December 07, 2009 03:13 PM            

DD, how id you get a Valentine persona synastry chart up pls?

posted December 07, 2009 03:29 PM            

Damn! I told you we were twin flames haha
That is just more synchronicity at work!!!!

Thanks IQ!

Is it worth looking at NN and NN persona together seeing as they represent this life?

posted December 07, 2009 03:42 PM            

and in my Mum`s Saturn Persona chart Sun and Psyche are conjunct my Dad`s natal Mars and SN. (which of course means that they have an exact Saturn-SN conjunction tropically).

her SATURN Valentine is also conjunct his tropical Pluto.
And my Dad`s SATURN Valentine is opposing her tropical Pluto.

Okay, back to the Valentine charts. This one was just too creepy.

posted December 07, 2009 03:44 PM            

my sun/venus opp his destinn/aphrodite (1)
my moon cj his psyche (0)
my saturn cj his karma (1)
my vertex opp his briede (0)
my groom cj his karma (3)
my groom opp his neptune (0)
my karma cj his sun (0) venus (1)
my destinn opp his union (2)
my valentine cj his moon (1)
my union cj his juno (0)
my AC cj his destinn/aphrodite (0)

SATURN/TROPICAL
my sun opp his saturn (2)
my moon opp his vertex (2)
my venus opp his saturn (1)
my mars opp his sun (2)
my saturn cj his venus (0)
my vertex cj his NN (3)
my juno opp his destinn (2)
***my briede opp his union (0)
***my groom cj his eros (2) venus (3)
my karma cj his NN (0) and opp his (my) surname (1)
my psyche cj his NN (0)
my union cj his pluto (2)
my AC opp his mars/isis (0)

his sun opp my moon/venus (0)
his moon cj my briede (1)
***his venus cj my boda (4)
his mars cj my pluto (1)
his saturn opp my sun/moon mp (1)
his vertex cj my briede (2)
his juno cj my surname (2)
his briede cj my pluto (1)
his karma cj my moon/venus (3)
his valentine opp my saturn/NN (2)
***his union cj my groom (3)

hmm interesting.

posted December 07, 2009 03:54 PM            

my Valentine - his natal:

my Sun conjunct his Mars (1)
my DESC conjunct his Isis (2)
my DESC conjunct his Boda (2)
my MC conjunct his ASC (0)
my MC conjunct his Briede (0)
my Moon opposite his Venus (2)
my Moon conjunct his Saturn (0)
my Venus opposite his Groom (1)
my Neptune ocnjunct his ASC (1)
my Neptune conjunct his Venus (1)
my Pluto opposite his Groom (0)
my Antivertex conjunct his Union (1)
my Karma conjunct his Pluto (1)
my Juno opposite his Union (3)
my Valentine conjunct his Sun (0)
my Valentine opposite his Valentine (1)
my Eros conjunct his Sun (1)
my Eros oposite his Valentine (1)
my Psyche conjunct his Saturn (1)
my Briede opposite his Union (2)
my Union conjunct his Mars (1)
- whoa I just noticed I have Sun conjunct Union exact in the Valentine chart
my Boda opposite his Boda (1)

his Valentine - my natal:
his Sun opposite my Venus (0)
his Sun opposite my Boda (3)
his Sun opposite my Isis and Osiris (1)
his DESC conjunct my Moon (3)
his Moon opposite my Mars (0)
his Moon conjunct my DESC (1)
his Mars conjunct my IC (0)
his Saturn opposite my Sun (0)
his NN conjunct my Venus (1)
his NN conjunct my Isis (0)
his NN conjunct my Osiris (0)
his Destinn conjunct my Juno (1)
his Juno conjunct my ASC (2)
his Juno conjunct my NN (0)
his Juno conjunct my Groom (2)
his Eros opposite my Psyche (1)
his Bried opposite my Saturn (1=)
his Briede opposite my Vertex (3)
his Groom opposite my Sun (0)
his Union opposite my Sun (1)
his Boda opposite my Psyche (0)

posted December 07, 2009 04:19 PM            

pretty cool stuff DD!

posted December 07, 2009 04:30 PM            

my venus opp his sun (2)
my saturn cj his eros (2)
my saturn opp his saturn (0)
my NN cj his karma (2)
***my vertex opp his eros (1)
my juno opp his juno (0)
my briede opp his sun/moon mp (0)
***my groom opp his valentine (0)
my groom cj his IC (3)
my eros opp his vertex (2)
***my union cj his valentine (0)
my AC cj his juno (2)

posted December 07, 2009 04:31 PM            

I am looking at Vertex aspect, especially if it is about lifechanging transformative encounters, which it surely was for me. And it definitely is for you.