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vertiver
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posted December 08, 2009 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm, can you guess this post is about Chiron?

T.Saturn is on the verge of exactly conjunct natal MC, unfortunately this means its squaring my Chiron in early Cancer in the 7th. Lately I've been feeling really rejected by my own thoughts of ever meeting someone, and I did get rejected 2 months ago.

But Saturn is about stability isn't there something positive to Saturn vibes on natal Chiron? Saturn has to do with the father and I've been getting along really well with my father and spending more time with him.

So I'm not sure if the Saturn vibe is more about maturity either way T. Saturn was squaring natal Venus well, again, ouch!

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posted December 09, 2009 10:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
Bump it

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posted December 13, 2009 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message
Hi vertiver,

I may be able to brighten your outlook some.

I match birthdates with the use of Synastry Astrology calculations. I may be able to give you a few birthdates of people who may be compatible with you. If you live in America and if you like, give me the birthdate of month, day and, year and time and place born and I will try to find and provide you with a few birthdates that suggest possible compatibility potential with you and others.

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posted December 13, 2009 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
I don't really believe in synastry, but I haven't used it enough to really know whether it is useful or not.

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slowpoke
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posted December 14, 2009 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message
Hi vertiver,

With all due respect, vertiver. The dates I am about to give you have nothing do with Astrology. They have everything to do with helping you to be happier. Think of it as e-harmony on steroids.

I tell people how the dates come to be, so people know the origin of them. And if they want, they can have them validated through that source.

At last!! Slowpoke has arrived! What took you so long Slowpoke? He smiles and says, Hey, you know me; I ride a fast Tortes, while dismounting his trusty mount named Triumph. Together we get the job done through a slow and steady pace of determination and concentration. Ok Triumph, lets . . . move along!
(The surrounding people begin to whisper; Oh my goodness, it is going to take him three days to leave this room . . . Hmmm)

Here are 38 dates that might be important to you, vertiver. These dates were match with your DOB and have been proven through Synastry Astrology to have compatible qualities to you. Find people born in the United States with these dates and you will have found people who have been prescreened to be compatible to you. Congratulations!!!

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vertiver 7/30/1988
Time: 5:05 PM

<-- 1952 -->
Sep 24


<-- 1953 -->
Sep 01, 04, 12


<-- 1955 -->
Jul 06, 07


<-- 1956 -->
Jun 01


<-- 1964 -->
Feb 13, 14


<-- 1965 -->
Aug 16
Dec 03, 04


<-- 1967 -->
May 17, 18


<-- 1969 -->
Feb 08
Oct 21


<-- 1971 -->
Feb 09


<-- 1972 -->
Aug 08


<-- 1977 -->
Mar 11
Feb 12
Oct 19


<-- 1978 -->
Sep 02


<-- 1979 -->
Jan 17


<-- 1981 -->
May 19
Oct 12, 15, 16, 17


<-- 1982 -->
Feb 26, 27
Aug 31


<-- 1983 -->
Jan 21, 23
May 17, 18, 19
Jun 14, 15

Problems in finding people through their DOBs.


Use your list to build yourself a base of men and women friends. Some of these friends could become closer personal people. Many of them may have the potential to carry your union into a broader life style. But locating them by way of their birthdays is a large problem. Some churches, sport organizations and, dating companies collect DOBs but may not allow public viewing to their list. If you submit an application for a dating service, perhaps you can try and request to meet people who have specific birthdates from your list. I do not know of any astrology website chat line available for people to openly share their birthdate for the purpose of meeting people.

The best unions in the world will have their share of problems, yours would be no different, vertiver. The people associated with your list may help you have a happier, rounder and, more productive life style, try not to take them and your list for granted.

Slowpoke


I only deal with the old planet selections of Sun (S), Moon (M), North Node (NN), Mercury (MY), Venus (VE), Mars (MR), Juipter (JP), Saturn (SA), Uranus (UR), Neptune (NP) and, Pluto (P) and in your case MC & Asc.


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posted December 14, 2009 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
What about people born later in the eighties, closer to my age, are they just not compatible or what?

I'm not necessarily looking for anyone at the moment and I would never go on dating sites, that seems to forced and unnatural to me. Luckily I'm surrounded by people all the time, I work in the airport after all.

But I wouldn't be surprised if I'm not that compatible to people my age or younger, except for three people with DOB: 2/26/88, 3/17/88, and 2/24/93, the last one is my younger sister but we have great synastry and composite charts and we obviously get along really well.

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posted December 14, 2009 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Slowpoke,

How do you measure this? Finding people who can "help" you? Tell me your secrets!

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posted December 14, 2009 10:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message
Hi vertiver,

This reply is based on Synastry Astrology and the cycles of some planets. One of the things that have become apparent in finding compatible dates is that most results, especially the very good ones, happen several years away from the birth year of the subject person. The reason for this is due to the aspects of the slower planets, starting with JP, holding onto aspects for a long period of time. When these aspects are of a stressful nature, they force the search to go further out.

Starting around Nov. 1985 and the dates following, there is some form of aspect combinations with SA 90 your M, SA 180 your VE, NP 90 your MR and, P 90 your S. This number of aspects found in one person's reading environment does not suggest the best of times with someone. These aspects, by the way, influence your set of aspects through 1989.

This also, means that most of the people born around your time will have the same aspect problems with each other. Slow planet aspects tend to affect a generation, you just happen to be part of some that limits selections closer to your age.

1985 is the closest year near you that produced a date, Sep 1, 1985. People born after 1989 are too young to be considered at this time.

You can have perfectly fine relationships with people born in and around your time, this is the result of living in the real world. The Synastry search was performed to help you identify the cream of the crop, so to speak, according to the aspects found.


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posted December 14, 2009 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
Yea, do you use cosmodynes as a way to calculate compatibility?

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posted December 14, 2009 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message
Hi meta_4,

If I may, please try this site.

http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/202766.html

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posted December 14, 2009 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you slowpoke, I really appreciate your help and insight. And that does make sense about the generational aspects, like for instance Neptune in Capricorn will always square natal Mars, etc.. Have you ever used cosmodynes by any chance?

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posted December 15, 2009 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message
Hi vertiver,

Sorry vertiver, I'm just an aspect number crunching kind of guy. What I do now, is a bye product from my effrots of trying to determine compatible people for myself with Composite and then later Synastry Astrology. I really wasn't trying to learn Astrology matter. I was just after the dates, like the ones I gave on your behalf. It was my trying to figure in, on how to get my caluclations right that made me learn more Astrology concepts and principles than I originally wanted to learn.

With no disrespect to you and what you do, I'm afraid I may have to go and look up "cosmodynes". I do not know what it is or how it works.

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posted December 15, 2009 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
So basically you have your natal cosmodyne that is a combo of aspects, house, planets, etc. and how they play in your chart, they are given a power similar to the volts of electricity and you can also compare yourself to someone else as well.

For Example: Natal Cosmodynes


Planet Power Harmony Longitude House


Sun 62.85 8.46 08 Leo 00' 36" 8
Moon 22.60 4.73 04 Pis 11' 30" 3
Mercury 43.24 8.29 04 Leo 26' 42" 8
Venus 52.29 -22.32 24 Gem 41' 06" 7
Mars 47.48 -9.42 06 Ari 50' 28" 3
Jupiter 22.98 14.70 01 Gem 28' 07" 6
Saturn 61.30 -30.54 26 Sag 38' 58" 1
Uranus 39.73 -13.56 27 Sag 34' 25" 1
Neptune 64.89 -13.81 08 Cap 01' 60" 1
Pluto 43.32 -12.95 09 Sco 47' 35" 11
Asc. 43.54 0.92 14 Sag 00' 19"
MC 51.59 -5.92 07 Lib 40' 53"
------ ------ ------
TOTALS 555.82 -71.40


Sign Power Harmony
Aries 71.22 -14.13
Taurus 52.29 -22.32
Gemini 96.89 -3.47
Cancer 11.30 2.37
Leo 121.81 18.86
Virgo 21.62 4.14
Libra 77.74 -17.08
Scorpio 88.71 -24.13
Sag. 156.06 -35.82
Cap. 95.54 -29.08
Aqua. 12.63 -5.51
Pisces 44.57 4.95
------ ------ ------
TOTALS 850.40 -121.21


House Power Harmony Longitude
1 220.95 -49.63 14 Sag 00' 19"
2 43.28 -20.78 19 Cap 34' 25"
3 92.05 -4.47 01 Pis 17' 15"
4 23.74 -4.71 07 Ari 40' 53"
5 26.15 -11.16 04 Tau 50' 27"
6 49.12 3.54 25 Tau 48' 38"
7 73.92 -18.17 14 Gem 00' 19"
8 133.11 21.23 19 Can 34' 25"
9 21.62 4.14 01 Vir 17' 15"
10 77.74 -17.08 07 Lib 40' 53"
11 66.01 -18.54 04 Sco 50' 27"
12 22.70 -5.59 25 Sco 48' 38"
------ ------ ------
TOTALS 850.40 -121.21
http://www.astrowin.org/cosmodynes.php

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posted December 15, 2009 08:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
This also, means that most of the people born around your time will have the same aspect problems with each other. Slow planet aspects tend to affect a generation...

I find this to be so true.

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posted December 16, 2009 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
Slowpoke,

I can't decipher your codes through that link...? I don't understand how you calculated Birthdates from those formulas..

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posted December 16, 2009 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Meta,

I think Slowpoke has some aspects in mind that are "No-go" and those which are "Yes, please", and he listed most of them in this thread.

So probably he would like to see a Venus-Moon-conjunction, but wouldn´t like to see a Mars-Pluto opposition.

And so one can go through the ephemeris and first exclude all generational aspects that are very difficult, like the Pluto squares and oppositions to personal planets.
And after that you can look out for the positive ones and so on.


He gave me a list for my birthday, too, and I must admit I still have to inspect these.

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posted December 16, 2009 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
So true, I think he also wants me to stay clear of the generation with Saturn/ Uranus in late Sagittarius (like myself), since those planets will always oppose my Venus at 24 Gemini, and I also have this aspect in my natal chart.

I have to say I generally relate to people about 18-20 yrs older than me.

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posted December 16, 2009 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for meta_4     Edit/Delete Message
DD,

Thanks for clearing that up. Though I must say, a Mar/Pluto opposition is always a "Go!" for me!

You must let me know how those bdays check out for you.

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posted January 01, 2010 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
Slowpoke, I know its not one of the birthdays you listed, but what about 8/1/1981? Does this synastry work, the outer planets are far enough (and age) to not be too close to my outer planets.

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posted January 05, 2010 09:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for slowpoke     Edit/Delete Message
Hi vertiver,

This is what I see,

S 0 S

S 91 your P

MR 92 MR

SA 178 your MR

MR 179 your NP

The total collection of the above aspects suggest, that a difficult union may develop.

The attraction influence – MR 125 your M


http://www.ahouse4-risingpeople.com/synex.html

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posted January 05, 2010 07:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks slowpoke! A difficult union, if there is even one to being with! More like a sexual affinity and nothing else... Mars opposite Saturn is pretty harsh, especially if there is going to be any equality in the relationship.

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