posted December 21, 2009 08:19 PM         

In my experience they are rather easy to read - when they feel attracted to you, their feelings show so easily ... they give you a lot of presents! Really! And, I have to admit, they always pick something personal, they really, really tune in easily into your taste, what could be intersting for you, etc. What repells me over and over again: They apply some kind of "emotional blackmail" that I find just tooooo wimpy and annoying! They are very needy, they crave your attention - but they're trying to hide. So far, this is alright. BUT: There's a very "snappy" side to them. They get disappointed easily if your fantasies don't work in the same mode or tempo as theirs ... and they'll let you know that they're hurt, disappointed by NOT saying anything. They are this kind of people: You ask them: "Are you alright?" And they'll answer: "Oh yes, sure." But their face and every gesture tells you: "No, I'm not alright, I am sad/jealous/waiting/angry etc..." So you ask them again: "Really? Everything alright?" And again they answer: "Yes, sure." They are always waiting for a miracle to occur - and they blame others / the whole world/ or you if their (often exxagerated) dreams don't come true.

A Pisces man who happens to fall in love with you ... he'll send you presents, send you songs, and he'll say: "No no, you don't have to send me something in return!" But of course they're expecting something (in return). And if you don't happen to "love" him too ... he'll let you know that he is suffering ... and after some time (sometimes after years) he might start fighting his hurt by talking behind your back. Pisces men expect you to read their mind - and they can be quite revengeful, in a backstabbing kind of way.

posted December 21, 2009 08:34 PM         

***edit: They are not proactive enough, for my taste...***

posted December 21, 2009 10:30 PM         

Well alot of this rings true. The first meeting story for instance. He came into where I was working to meet up with his brother. He and I had never met. When he opened the door, well, it was just one of those "things." He walked straight up to me, never even looked for his brother.
He told me recently, that the first time he saw me he thought "wow, that girl is way out of my leauge, but I want her!! She is sooo different."

I read alot into those few lines.
He was a complete charmer, no shy fish there. He "sweetied, honied, and doll-babied" me, until I just couldn't resist anymore. He's southern so that is the way he speaks, along with LOTS of eye contact and dimples. Another of my downfalls.

We didn't want to break up, we had to. He ended up going to jail for something he did in another state. It isn't anything God awful, but it was illegal and so they extradited him. He wrote to me everyday, but I was young, and eventually, I just sort of tapered off on the whole waiting thing. He has mentioned how much this hurt him, he said he had planned on coming back and asking me to marry him. But it didn't work out that way.

I know what you mean about needing the he-man type. But he was and is! Maybe it's the Scorp rising, or just his general upbringing, but he was no shrinking violet in any sense.

As far as the running off thing. I'm not sure about that. Maybe his Cancer Moon keeps him more connected to loved ones. He said he has only been in 3 relationships; me, the one after me whom he did not marry, but had kids with, and his ex wife that he was only with for one year.
He says as far as love he only loved me and the ex wife. But he spent many years with the kids mom, due to obligation, so I don't fear him being flakey.

Most of our connections in synastry are to Mercury! I was thinking about that this should indicate a good ability to communicate. But what another knowflake told me today was that, he probably finds it difficult through the computer. I wouldn't imagine Pisces would do well with long distances.
When we talk on the phone it's blah blah blah for two hours and everyone is happy.
So, in part, the moodiness can be from the distance. Or maybe he's just not that into me. Who the heck knows.

I was just really hoping for this though. After years of Cap and Scorp love, I was longing for sweet and sensitive with WORDS, lovely words, that I never get to hear.

posted December 21, 2009 10:43 PM         

I actually think pisces adores long distance, because it fuels their fantasy world and you can be perfect to them.

He may not be a flee-er. I'm sure not all of them are like that, but it seems a good portion are.

LOL @ the pet names. I would've been ok with hon or sweetie, but I despise babydoll -- it makes my blood boil -- I don't know why. See my other post in "soulfullness vs. romance."

posted December 21, 2009 10:43 PM         

I am SO glad another Fish replied to your post...

(and brilliant advice!!!)

I am a Fish lady who is in a beautiful relationship with a Fish man...

All I can say is be sweet, be tender, be caring, and at the same time be elusive, give the Fish space to swim....cause he will always be elusive too.

Be wary of his feelings, we are sponges, the "moodiness" of the Pisces is often just something we have picked up from someone else along the way....be prepared, our character changes as we are all woman and all man...one moment an aries, the next an aqua!

I have found Pisces men are ultra sensitive to their external environment such as physical things, as where Pisces women are ultra senstive to the emotional environnment, and my Fish love agrees with me.

Shiny things will attract our eye, but if the gloss has no depth, we will swim away for another bait...do not try to trap us, I remember when I was merely 6 yrs old I caught my first, a Perch, I held the poor thing in my hands as my grandpa cut it's head off to prepare for dinner....do not try to catch us, perse....we are quite wiggly....to this day, I do not like "fishing" it is SO hard to capture the likeness of me and watch it try to swim free...

Give us pleanty of space...as much space as the ocean....let us swim free and we shall surely swim back to the emotive waters.

We love love...but we can not be "caught."

I swim free in my head (HUGE aqua influecne) my bloved swims free on his motercycle (HUGE aries influence...)

Whatever way, we need to swim.

I have been a fish-keeper all of my life, have had many, many aquariums, etc. I do not flush my departed Fish, but bury them, this is how much I respect The Fish.

blessings

t~~~

posted December 21, 2009 11:25 PM         

HIPPIchick!

I was sooo hoping to hear from you because I know your a fish with a fish and you live in the same state as my fish, so I felt that you may understand some of the cultural environmental issue stuff. (the sweeties, honies, and dollbabies, lol.)

I'm so glad you were reading today.

What you said reminded me of something, when one day he was all mushy and the next day he was cool, I mentioned it to him, and he said, "well, I told you I was a moody SOB."

But then an hour later he sent a lovely apology text. I mean, I can't hardly handle my own bi-polar-ish self, this is starting to be a comedy!!!

I don't want to stick him in an acqaurium, I would like to swim out to sea with him. Swimming was one of the most favorite things we used to do together. And he has never been without a boat.

I don't blame you, I can't fish either, it creeps me out.

hmmm, guess I'm just insecure, cuz unlike you I don't have the thing established yet. But I do have the "sense" be it sixth or whatever, that he truly loves my emotive ways and attention, and even if it gets a bit much, perhaps he would miss it even more if it were gone, do you know what I mean?

I thought of something after my last post, and maybe one of you guys would have insights on this.
When we dated before I was 20 and he was 24. He was kinda slender, not really muscle-y, just slender, kinda sinewy. I weighed 99 pounds.
Anyway, after all this time, well, he's put on alot of weight. I mean nothing life threatening I wouldn't think, but quite noticable. He is also very big, bulky, muscle-y as well. Course he is 47 now, so we are not kids anymore.
Thing is, I still weigh the same, and when he saw my pics he was really, not embarressed, well, maybe, but just kept saying that "he wasn't the little kid he used to be." I keep telling him, I don't care, I don't want a little boy, I want a man, and I think he looks handsome. But he will say things like, "you're crazy, you can get any one you want, are you sure you're not making this up?"

Now that is kinda strange. To think I would find a person, re-connect and only pretend to find them attractive? What could I possibly gain from that??

So I guess I'm wondering if maybe his insecurity is coloring the situation? Are Pisces know for body image issues? And self worth/esteem issues?

and maybe he's scared to invest because he thinks I may break his heart again. Even though I didn't intend to the first time.

posted December 22, 2009 12:07 AM         

I find masculine sign men are very comfortable in their own skin. They're much more likely to just BE without worrying much about how they come accross or whether they are always socially/politically correct.. so they are not as "wary" of displaying traditionally feminine behaviour.. like crying in public for example.

There are much better odds an Aries guy would do this ^ than a Pisces guy - because the Aries guy wouldn't see it as a threat to his masculinity nor would he think that it makes him look "weak".. The Pisces guy would feel as though he revealed a part of himself that he wanted to keep secret and be under the impression that he would be laughed at.

posted December 22, 2009 12:24 AM         

Will have to get back to this in the days to come...tired...sigh,.,work,,

Just wanted to let you know, to find some spiritual inspiration re: the Pisces man, refer to the immortal Kurt Cobain...

I like to use his lovely words "it's ok to eat fish cause they don't have any feelings....." to describe the (implied) human condition of The Pisces.

Most think this song (Something In The Way) ...psssst, the ONLY song I can play on the guitar is about the time he spent homeless. I disagree, me thinks it is about being alone in the world of The Fish.

blessings

terri~~~

posted December 22, 2009 04:16 AM         

I was married to an Aries that nearly broke my jaw before I could get free. There were no femimine traits about him at all. The other Aries males that I know in person are too, in your face hitting on you, listing tirelessly, and arrogantly their prowess in either money, posessions, sports of women.
From bartending so long, I can spot them a mile away and usually run. But as you can see, my experience had definetly shaped my opinion.

Leo men seem kinder and more considerate, but it's right back to the guess what size boat I have thing....and another Saggie, well, that would just be weird for me. But I would chose him over the other fires.

I don't agree that all the feminine men overcompensate at all. In this world you have bullies and you have peacemakers, sure astro plays a part, but so does their own psychological makeup and experiences, so its' hard to lump them into a collective group.

I did have a male cancer sun roomie that would get drunk and cry at night and have me rock him because he missed his Mother. *sigh* but then again, I suppose that is another generalization. The cancer man mom thing. Probably true often, but never always.

*Hippichick- yes I have Kurt's diary book. I haven't read it all, but I'm glad you reminded me. I know he was terribly depressed and so I was always blue trying to finish reading that book (I have a fishy daughter, so I worry about things like that) but if you suggest that there are insights into the Pisces mind that you find valid, I will certainly give it a read.

posted December 22, 2009 07:40 AM         

I know exactly what you mean.
Because of having worked with the public for so many years, charm and wit being my bread and butter potential, I know the feeling. Some times you just want to scream.
After many long nights, I too, would lock myself in my room and "rest" my personality, nobody can go like that without a recharge. And, unfortunately the ones we love suffer for it simply because they live with us. Such is life. But we suffer their flaws as well.

posted December 22, 2009 11:41 AM         

Last love= cancer Moon, sco sun, saggie moon
hubby= cancer asc/moon, cappy sun

*both had venus in sag.
Don't know why I'm bringing them up, just noticing a lil trend I got going with Cancer. Not the suns, but I seem to draw the others. Maybe I need parenting?? lol.

Anyway, here is a visual aid (I've been up all night, this is either gonna kill me or save me, don't know which yet)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBoa8BBcNqc

posted December 22, 2009 05:44 PM         

back now...golly traffic is HORRIBLE, last minute shoppers, I suppose!

Bi polar may be used to describe us, however, tis just the Fish taking a quick exit and swimming away, then back again, then away.

Yea, we do that.

As far as the image thing goes....we can be real insecure about ourselves, I hear the same thing from my Fish bfriend "what are you doing with me?" Must be my Aqua influence, tho, I really do not care what anybody thinks of me, I am who I am.

Self esteem issues? YES!!!!

We tend to take everything everybody else says/does personally, still, I am OK with myself, but have to remind myself, it is usually not about me, but about them.

We pick up on everybody's energies, issues and make them our own. Bfriend does not understand, sometimes why I recluse, (tho he should), I deal with death, dying, infrim, very heavy energies 36 hours a week and if I am not careful I will make it my own..

I am going to have to ponder what you say about the cultural implications, really I have not considered this much as a colouring of Sun signs, but ofcourse!!! Could have SO much to do with the manifestations of a particular Sun sign's energy!

My bfriend was born in Louisiana, me in northern Indiana, and lived for many years on an Ohio farm....been down here for ever, tho, he still makes fun of my northern accent and I marvle at his hick drawl! He uses "Hon", to perfect strangers, women, alot and he and I have gotten into it before about it. I say it is disrespectful (posted once here regarding the subject), some chick at Starbucks this morning, way, way younger than me called me "sweetie///" tisk, tisk!

I still have a problem with it, but the Southern Fish thinks it totally natural!

Do not despair too much about Cobain's percieved "depression." Alot of folks think we depressed, we are just in connection, constantly with Divinity, sometimes this manifests as mortal depression...tis why we escape however/whenever we can....from the humanity we are so sensitive to.

blessings to you and your FISH!

terri~~~