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Polo C
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posted December 25, 2009 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
Which of the two planets create the greatest Sexual Attraction to a woman's Mars? Would it be the man's Sun contacting the woman's Mars, or would it be the traditional Venus contacting the woman's Mars?

I had always been led to believe that (Venus / Mars) was the number one sign of sexual attraction, but I think I read a post here by someone who suggests that the Sun's affect on Mars would be stronger. Also, just out of curiosity because I have this configuration, how would Mercury contacting the woman's Mars fit into the mix?

Oh, I just thought of one last situation that was inspired by 7th House placements. If a woman's Mars conjuncts and Man's Sun, and the man's Mars conjuncts the woman's Moon, wouldn't this sort of be an ideal set up? It seems so, but for what, I do not know...

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posted December 25, 2009 02:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
i had the best sex and most attraction to a guy who had his mars opposing my natal venus in leo and his venus sextile my mars.. Oh and his pluto square my mars. His planets all fall in my 8th house.
His mars was trine my moon. My mars was sextile his sun.
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Lonake
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posted December 25, 2009 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Sun to mars, doesnt matter the gender of who's who. Their venus on my mars does nothing for me.

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Polo C
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posted December 25, 2009 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
Ya know, when I think about it, I feel like I am in total control of the attraction whenever a woman's Venus conjuncts my Mars in sort of vain egotistical way. Her Mars on my Sun gets my attention and I feel the attraction in a more significant way. With the Sun involved I don't feel that it is all in my hands and there is a bit of submission to the attraction itself.

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vapor-lash
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posted December 25, 2009 03:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Hi again Polo!

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To a woman's Mars?

I would say the Sun.. because as I mentioned earlier I don't like the Venus/Mars when the man is Venus.

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If a woman's Mars conjuncts and Man's Sun, and the man's Mars conjuncts the woman's Moon, wouldn't this be a sort of ideal set up?

It's a nice setup.. It can be very attractive and also supportive, depending on the sign. I think the Mars/Sun conjunction in Virgo works extremely well because Virgo is a social sign that likes to collaborate and help others out.

(Aries can go either way, for example. My best friend has an Aries Mars along with an Aries Venus and we get on great. But I have also met Aries Mars people who try to head-butt me for "fun")

Other than being sexually attractive Mars/Sun can give a sort of solidarity coupled with friendship.. kind of like "You're my right-hand person. If I ever have a problem, I know I can count on you!"

However, considering the way you describe this girl and you really seem to have very strong feelings for her - I just don't think these aspects, alone, tell the story.

Psyche/Eros sounded more fitting.

These particular aspects are positive in a few areas:

1.friendship (mars-sun)
2.good mental back and forth – conversation flows (mars-mercury)
3.trust – LOTS of trust. You definitely know you can count on one another (mars-sun and mars-moon)
4. sex.. because mars is involved and there is always a sexual side to mars.. (mars-everything lol)

But the sort of love you feel, I wouldn't personally attribute to these particular aspects. I strongly believe that if you met another woman born on the same day and had both of these aspects with her, you simply wouldn't feel the same.

There has to be something going on with your ascendants imo

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vapor-lash
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posted December 25, 2009 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
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feel like I am in total control of the attraction whenever a woman's Venus conjuncts my Mars in sort of vain egotistical way.

That's interesting. I did feel "taken for granted" after a while - when his Mars was conjunct my Venus.. which is partly why I couldn't remain in that situation. Also, very often I took into account BOTH of us while he didn't even think about my own feelings - very "bull in a china shop" towards me at times.

I found myself constantly playing games and making him jealous - I'm not that sort of person.. but this was a result of feeling unappreciated. It always worked and he reacted very aggressively to these things. I find that Mars does not particularly WANT Venus after a while, but he does not really want anyone else to have her either.
That was the beginning of the end (but things took many more interesting turns than that

I think Venus/Mars works best with the man as Mars. But regardless of who is Mars - I do believe that it all comes crashing down in a "war of the roses" type situation.. with.. fireworks - if the people are not very mature (which we were not at the time) and if there are no supporting aspects elsewhere that show emotional and mental harmony.

It's a fantastic aspect for a fling. It's funny that in describing this aspect I though of "9 and a half weeks" which is a movie ABOUT a fling.

PS. I should mention that we are in the same generation and both of our Plutos were opposite this conjunction. It might have added to the problems

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Polo C
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posted December 25, 2009 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
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It's a nice setup.. It can be very attractive and also supportive, depending on the sign. I think the Mars/Sun conjunction in Virgo works extremely well because Virgo is a social sign that likes to collaborate and help others out.

Yes vapor-lash, her Mars conjunct my Sun (2.8 degrees Virgo.) and my Mars conjunct her Moon (3.7 degrees Aquarius.)

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However, considering the way you describe this girl and you really seem to have very strong feelings for her - I just don't think these aspects, alone, tell the story.

Psyche/Eros sounded more fitting.


I certainly agree with that. I am trying to confirm for myself that the asteroid energy is more prominent at higher chakra levels.

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But the sort of love you feel, I wouldn't personally attribute to these particular aspects. I strongly believe that if you met another woman born on the same day and had both of these aspects with her, you simply wouldn't feel the same.

There has to be something going on with your ascendants imo


That's interesting! Again, this makes me consider the relevance of the 7 chakra levels. My Ascendant is Leo, but I don't know hers yet.

My 2nd House is also Leo. I forget with that House represents.

My Descendant naturally is Aquarius. Her Moon, being Aquarius falls into both my 7th and 8th Houses.

I think I mentioned before that the tightest aspect between her and myself is her Juno conjunct my Psyche, (Leo / 0.06 degrees.) That's even tighter than the Eros psyche conjunction (Leo / 4.95 degrees.)

The Leo contacts are the most spiritual ones between us.

My North Node is Aquarius / S. node Leo of course. Hers is the reverse with Leo North Node.

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Polo C
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posted December 25, 2009 03:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
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I find that Mars does not particularly WANT Venus after a while, but he does not really want anyone else to have her either.

OMG Vapor-Lash, that is so true! You Nailed It with that one. I can see this across the board.

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if the people are not very mature (which we were not at the time)

... And I do believe that this is a crucial element in how all synastry combinations play out. MATURITY. Different energies are expressed in various ways. Some we like, some we don't like. At one moment we can truly appreciate one kind while we hate another, then later on at a different time it switches to be the exact opposite. Regardless of this, there is never any good reason to mistreat someone else no matter how we are feeling about the energy we are receiving and that is where one's level of maturity comes in to play.


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popcorn
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posted December 25, 2009 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
The best sex I ever had was togheter with my last on and off relationship. It exist in 2 year.

His sun square my venus
My sun opposite his venus

His moon quinkux my mars
My moon sextil his mars

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Nine
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posted December 25, 2009 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message
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I think Venus/Mars works best with the man as Mars. But regardless of who is Mars - I do believe that it all comes crashing down in a "war of the roses" type situation.. with.. fireworks - if the people are not very mature (which we were not at the time) and if there are no supporting aspects elsewhere that show emotional and mental harmony.

You are good. I've noticed this myself about Venus-Mars aspects, especially the conj/opp/square. They always end in acrimony.

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aka Kat
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posted December 25, 2009 09:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for aka Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Female her Mars to his Sun
Male his venus to her sun
Male& female strong venus/Mars aspect
Sun to moon (especially conjunction) for deep friendship
Maybe sun to venus, but can signify brief affair if no other aspects.

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popcorn
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posted December 25, 2009 09:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
My ex husband (in15 year)

His venus trine my venus/NN/mars
His pluto sext my venus/NN/mars
His nept trine my venus/nn/mars

My jupiter/ conj his mars/valentine

Sex was the only as work in our relationship our last year togheter.

But the best sex was not with him

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Alvarella777
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posted December 25, 2009 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Following your input so far, may I ask (all of) you a question? (Especially POLO, of course ): Taking your posted theories about Sun-Mars-Moon-Venus-combos into account … What would be the difference between these two attractions below? Which one would be more “sexy” – which one would be more “substantial”? Which attraction could possibly be more “fatal” or turn out obsessive one day? POLO: Which woman would you rather fall for, seriously, if you were “the guy”? Any other takes on the 2 below? Im cuuuuuriouuusssss!

Same guy – different women (orbs 0-3 dg):

GUY & woman A

His MOON trine her MARS (*double whammy*)
His MARS trine her MOON(*double whammy*)
His VENUS oppose her VENUS (*mutual*)
His MARS quincunx her VENUS


GUY & woman B

His SUN trine her MOON
His MOON trine her MOON
His VENUS sextile her SUN
His VENUS sextile her MARS
His MARS square her MARS (*mutual*)

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posted December 25, 2009 07:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
I like the first one more. My on and off relationship have moon/mars DW and I just say wooow. It was strong feelings and the best sex I ever had. Venus opp venus also trigg.

I don't like mars square mars in the second one.

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Lara
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posted December 25, 2009 07:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I have insane sexual attraction with my man... and it's off the charts compared to any other man in my life to date, which is really saying something as i've dated some sexy men whom i had amazing sex with!!

anyway, we have:
venus sextile mars 1'
moon sextile venus 3'
moon sextile mars 1'
moon sq mars 3'
moon opp neptune 0'
moon trine pluto 0'
moon quincunx pluto 2'
venus biquintile pluto 1'
venus trine pluto 0'
mars sq pluto 0'
mars sq pluto 1'

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Polo C
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posted December 25, 2009 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
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Taking your posted theories about Sun-Mars-Moon-Venus-combos into account … What would be the difference between these two attractions below? Which one would be more “sexy” – which one would be more “substantial”? Which attraction could possibly be more “fatal” or turn out obsessive one day? POLO: Which woman would you rather fall for, seriously, if you were “the guy”? Any other takes on the 2 below? Im cuuuuuriouuusssss!


Well of course, I am far, far from being any kind of expert on this stuff, but...

In my humble opinion both would be quite sexy, but the question would be, in what flavor do you like your sexy?

  • Woman A: Sexy would be more emotionally based and also, considering the other aspects, I would imagine a bit more drama along with it. Some people prefer it to be this way.
  • Woman B: Sexy would be more harmonious with a more apparent casual friendliness to color things. Where the SEX ITSELF would be more emotional with (woman A), here, there is a deeper, emotional compatibility in general. The romantic air would be more prevalent with this pairing.

More substantial? I guess that would depend on what you value, but if by substantial you mean which of these would be the most intense? in that case, I would have to go with the drama coming with Woman A. It seems to me that with woman A there will be a greater need for adjustment, causing one to grow and consider old habits. On the other hand, with woman B, things will be more peaceful and serene. There may be some degree of competitiveness between them, but drama will be at a minimum. Some people like it this way.

Which would have the highest potential of becoming a fatal attraction? Hmmmm. That would probably be with woman B. Since they work so well together, harmoniously, if things went south, and had to end for whatever reason, somebody might have some problems letting go. That competitive mars quality might be activated and then, there you go! Glenn Close / Michael Douglas

What would my choice be? Well, ordinarily I would go for the least amount of drama, but if there was a deeply spiritual element to it all, then I would tolerate the drama because of the fact that I believed there was something bigger at stake.

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posted December 26, 2009 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
The best sex I ever had was with someone with whom I have DW Venus/Mars, and one of the aspects is a square. That is supposedly a gut-wrenching aspect but I found that it provided the friction (pun intended) to make it hot. Seriously, it was mind-blowing, soul shattering sex, but a little too fiery to sustain as an actual relationship.

We also have a DW Sun trine Mars, although one of the trines is super wide (9 degrees). So I agree with the Venus/Mars and Sun/Mars theory for the female.

I'm not sure how I feel about Eros/Psyche. I recently discovered I have a DW Eros/Psyche with someone I used to date, one of which is an exact conjunction, and supposedly that is the "holy grail of soulmate pairings", but I never felt that way about him. The sex was good. However, mentally and emotionally, we came into conflict a lot. That might have been our exact Moon/Mars opposition manifesting, I'm not sure. But seeing as how that relationship didn't work out (I ended it), it has spoiled me away from Eros/Psyche meaning something spectacular.

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Alvarella777
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posted December 27, 2009 10:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
POLO: Thanks a lot for sharing your proverbial "5 cents" on my question!

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