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Topic: Pop Culture and Entertainment - A Prison for Your MIND.
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hanakin
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posted December 31, 2009 09:15 PM
 
I LOVE POP CULTURE.
My dad loved the beatles and so do i!!!
pop world.
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belgz
Knowflake Posts: 620
From: Sydney, Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 31, 2009 09:35 PM
Polo how do you spend your time if your not into entertainment and pop etc??What do you do for work? do you work? ------------------
•' •.♥♫♫´°°♫ • Life is Beautiful •.♥.•♫°°´♫♫ ♥ • IP: Logged |
GypseeWind
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From: Dayton,Ohio USA
Registered: May 2009
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posted December 31, 2009 10:09 PM
Sorry dude, but in no WAY do I see watching tv shows and smoking crack as even close to the same. How many crack addicts do you know? I mean, no offense, if you spend your life in meditation and all that kinda stuff, then more power to ya, but I don't. Do I meditate? Yes. Do I pray? Absolutely! But do I deprive myself of entertainment just because I may be so weak as to let it erode my spirit?? NOPE!!! Polo, all I mean is this....if you are wise enough, you can look at these things with a grain of salt. If you chose to close yourself off from all sources of media and entertainment, then that is fine, I have no issue with that. I choose not to do that. But I turn my tv on maybe once every two or three days, just to break up my time writing, studying, or computer-ing. You know, none of that crap makes me want to buy anything, and never has!! In fact, it makes me have more destain for material things all together, so maybe, for some, it does serve a purpose, can you not see it that way???IP: Logged |
Anti-Rufilla
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From: Dallas
Registered: Dec 2009
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posted December 31, 2009 11:12 PM
"The more sophisticated one's understanding of causality, the more profound their understanding of reality."I personally disagree. Most people who too deeply rationalize the world around them feel isolated. Children, the mentally handicapped, and people who are out of touch with empirical, mechanistic reality (such as whirling dervishes) show a much deeper and more profound connection with their own lives. Popular culture is about how we relate with our "tribe", the space we etch out for ourselves in mass culture. I appreciate what you're trying to say, but you should really be attacking spiritual vacancy and irresponsibility. It's entirely possible for someone to be a functioning member of society and to be attuned to popular culture and still have a meaningful impact on the world. IP: Logged |
Agent_009
Knowflake Posts: 140
From: LA & Vancity
Registered: May 2009
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posted December 31, 2009 11:58 PM
Polo,
I agree with you to an extent....
but I more so agree with Anti-Rufilla.Like any other power, it depends how you choose to utilize it, for better or worse. I choose to work with media because it is the fastest & most effective way to help reach people, inspire, educate etc. How aware are people in general about history, war, & politics?? Most dont even care and will never take the time/energy to learn about it...not until they finally see a movie related (ie. Schindler's List) to that topic will they finally learn something. Even a useless popcorn teen movie is important on soul growth of a teen. He/she might relate to the character in the movie, much more than listening to the words of say their parents. However, Anti-Rufilla is right about how everyone should be responsible for what they take in from it. A personal example of mine is, I used to never give dumb movies a chance...turning it off after 1/2hr. Nowadays I realize how much I could actually learn through a bad movie--of what NOT to do. You have to put things in perspective, take what is useful and leave behind the rest. You also have to realize that everyone is at a different level of soul growth. I dont judge people who enjoy popcorn romantic comedies etc, even though I personally hate those kind of movies. Obviously they like it because something about it fulfills their soul's need. IP: Logged |
Lonake
Knowflake Posts: 592
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 01:16 AM
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You can't argue that something is Right just because YOU like it.
Perfectly stated there, Sir. IP: Logged |
Polo C
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Registered: Dec 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 01:28 AM
Here is my question to you all: WHY DO YOU EXIST? Tell me, in a single sentence, what the purpose of life is. What is supposed to occur between the Birth date and the Death date? Do you have any idea at all? Tell me what you believe... I'd like to know. Remember, do it with a single sentence. If you're really good, maybe you can answer in a single word.  Who knows! IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted January 01, 2010 01:37 AM
In 4 words (I can't muster less) my purpose is to:Experience - Learn - Inspire - Protect This isn't only what I "believe". They are all things I often find myself doing. IP: Logged |
Anti-Rufilla
Knowflake Posts: 9
From: Dallas
Registered: Dec 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 01:39 AM
Ego Death. IP: Logged |
Polo C
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posted January 01, 2010 01:40 AM
Vaporlash, can you narrow these three down into a single idea? What is the primary point of life? Choose the most crucial of the three that you have selected.IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted January 01, 2010 01:48 AM
Hmmm If I had to narrow it down.. I'd ultimately say:ACT! (all of the 4 words signify action to me - in particular areas) So I'm here to always take stance and ACT towards/for the things I believe in. Which is just nuts, reading it back lol because like I told you I don't normally heed sun sign astrology, but how typically Aries of an answer is that? PS. Considering the words above, I'd hate to pick just one, but if I really had to - I'd stick to "protect" IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
Knowflake Posts: 294
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posted January 01, 2010 01:48 AM
Polo - what would your sentence be?IP: Logged |
katatonic
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posted January 01, 2010 01:52 AM
i think when people point out the lack of clarity in your premise it is a signal to clarify...not to give them the finger. THAT (the latter) is from the vacuous side of pop culture.there is much trash out there. and even more commercialism. but given the many native languages on this site clarity can take some fine-tuning before it is reached. i was not being socratic or even sarcastic. there is much of value in pop culture and there are a lot of supposedly cultured people who could learn something from exposure to it!! that said, i agree that the means of presentation - especially tv, radio and internet - is DESIGNED to imprison your mind. dick sutphen (longtime hypnotherapist and sometime expert on mindcontrol techniques) has a whole site devoted to this - strangely it is called "the battle for your mind" so my nitpicking over the use of "pop culture" for what was really meant - is not to derail your topic but fine tune it. carry on. IP: Logged |
Polo C
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posted January 01, 2010 02:02 AM
So what are we going with, Act or Defend? I think you are choosing Defend, correct? So you're saying that the purpose of life is to Defend... Defend what?This is an incomplete idea and I suspect that it will only lead to someone misinterpreting things and starting an argument down the line, messing up my thread. Lets try and be as clear and concise as possible. Single, complete idea vaporlash... The purpose of life is to defend... edit: I'm sorry, before you said defend, but I see you have changed it to "Protect". Protect what? IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted January 01, 2010 02:24 AM
I actually picked *act* because I could take action in all of those areas as I explained.But, as a side-line I decided to answer your question and tell you which word out of the 4, I would pick.. which was/is "protect". Although I'd prefer to use "defend" come to think of it. So lets stick to "defend". To reiterate:
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All of the 4 words signify action to me - in particular areas
Experience is acting to experience particular things in life (i.e. rock climbing) Learning is acting on an intellectual level and studying particular topics. (i.e. my PhD) Inspiring is acting in a manner that motivates others to believe in themselves. (i.e. particular art projects) Defending (the most important in my book) is acting to defend other humans, animals, plants, insects, ideas, principles, opinions... and anything you could POSSIBLY imagine out there in the world - in the universe.. ANYTHING at all, that is in need of *defense* (i.e. the topic of my PhD which will go unmentioned) In conclusion - The purpose of my life is taking action. IP: Logged |
Polo C
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posted January 01, 2010 02:32 AM
Okay. Good... The purpose of your life is to take action. To act, or to take action, is to "Move" in some way. When you Act or Move in a particular way, What will be the result? What will be the overall accomplishment for you? what will you have achieved?IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted January 01, 2010 03:02 AM
Good question.
I think action achieves change..So I'm hoping that my *taking action* can achieve some positive changes (even if on a small scale). So are you going to answer your own question, or are you being secretive about it?
I'm curious about your own answer 
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Polo C
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posted January 01, 2010 03:07 AM
If I answer before others it will defeat the whole purpose of me asking the question. I will answer, but only after they have, I'm not being secretive. Now, back to you.Action produces change. This is true! Now I ask, what will be gained from the change? IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted January 01, 2010 03:29 AM
Polo - we'll be here all day (or all night in my case) - you realize that, right? lolPositive Change will just perpetuate the cycle. I think there is always a balance out there between good&evil, white&black, light&shade and so forth.. It's all so circular.. I don't think there is an *ultimate* purpose to life in general. That is to say I can think of my own personal purpose, in my own life.. but I don't believe that *life* as such.. The existence of this thing called *life* necessarily has a particular purpose.. and if it DOES, I'm not so sure it is one that we could get our little brains around, for now - at least. Any question can go on forever. Are there *final* answers? I don't know. I doubt it. It reminds me of my little cousin.. when he asked me "Why is candy always sweet?"
Me: "Because they put a lot of sugar in it" .. him: "Why do they put sugar in it".. Me: "Because the want to rot your teeth. It's a conspiracy." Him: "conpeewacy? but whyyyy?" IP: Logged |
Polo C
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posted January 01, 2010 03:38 AM
I said keep it simple! Single sentence. Look at all of this stuff you wrote. No patience at all. You don't know how long it will take so don't try to predict where I am going with this, just wait and find out. If you do what I ask we might already be finished.Everything you just said is besides the point. You say you don't believe there is a purpose to life, but if you do what I ask, I will prove otherwise and why. What will you gain from the CHANGE? IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted January 01, 2010 05:40 AM
 back @ you  You didn't say single sentence, for that Q. Anyhow I'll play along.. quote:
What will you gain from the CHANGE?
I was going to say "it's not all about me". The change can involve others and their own lives.. But there is the theory(I think it's called psychological egoism) according to which everything we do is self-centered, on some level. For example, even if the change helped another person.. one could say it is still self-centered if I gain "satisfaction" from helping them. So - What will *I* gain from the change my actions lead to? I would have to say - some kind of personal satisfaction. IP: Logged |
Polo C
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posted January 01, 2010 07:26 AM
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I would have to say - some kind of personal satisfaction.
That's all you had to say. What are all those other sentences for? Your thought process? You just refuse to follow the rules huh vaporlash? I hope you weren't this way in school... HARD-HEADED!  IP: Logged |
PeaceAngel
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posted January 01, 2010 07:40 AM
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