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Topic: How long..?
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Predominantlyfire
Knowflake Posts: 147
From: Isle of Wight, U.K
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posted January 02, 2010 09:30 AM
 
Does each planet take to go from one sign to another. I mean the cross over when it's partly in one sign and partly in another. How long does Mars take to CROSS signs? Obviously the Moon will be the fastest. But how long say does Mars take to go from being entirely in one sign to being entirely in another. I genuinely think i know someone whose Mars is in both Cancer and Leo. They're chart says 0.00 degrees Leo. But they manifest (VERY strongly) the traits of both. I believe there are genuine cuspers out there. Maybe IQ hunk or someone knows how long each planet takes to do this?
Is it measured in arc minutes or arc seconds or something. This is a really interesting topic.------------------
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DD
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posted January 02, 2010 09:38 AM
EDIT:
It depends on the speed of the planet (before they go retrograde they will take more time).
Personally I don`t believe in that cusp-theory. I rather think there may be other aspects / placements that will point towards the Cancerian influence. Something like the ruler of 4th house conjunct Sun even.
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Predominantlyfire
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posted January 02, 2010 09:50 AM
What you just wrote was a nice attempt but actually and unfortunately complete nonsense. But sending love out to you anyway xx.
Mars spends on average 6 weeks, although can spend months if it has retrograde cycles (like Leo now)
My question is how long does the TRANSITION take when it STARTS to cross into another sign. The answer i'm looking for is in seconds or minutes. No more words on this thread please, unless they're words of sense.------------------
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DD
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posted January 02, 2010 09:59 AM
You are right. I was making a mistake. Must be a sign, I am human. Sorry.Why don`t you look up in the ephemeris yourself?
For the tone of your post
EDIT:
I acknowledge that you edited your post, so it doesn`t sound as rude as before.
I think the answer you are seeking depends on when you think a transition starts and when it ends. IP: Logged |
mir
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posted January 02, 2010 10:22 AM
Well DD, I would make it 3 for Predo's tone! anyone more? IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl
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posted January 02, 2010 10:22 AM
Thank you for adding more ammunition to my goal of getting you permanently banned PredominantlyFire.IP: Logged |
pire
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posted January 02, 2010 10:39 AM
star, if you don't like him, why do you open his threads?I mean, several options: -you like him and you decide to open the thread 
-you like him but you decide to stay away
-you don't like him and you stay away
-you don't like him and you let him know
you don't like him and you do your max to bother him and eventually get him banned  I don't disagree with you, except that I'm just very against banning and ostrascizing.
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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted January 02, 2010 10:46 AM
I clicked on it because I read almost every thread on this forum. I was fine until I saw how rude he was to DD...for trying to help him for goodness sakes! That was my last straw with this poster, especially since he is associated with the poster who created that horrible thread that was aimed at Polo. The two of them are quite the pair. Don't worry Pire, I won't be coming into his threads anymore, because he annoys me beyond belief and now that I have confirmed my suspicions about him, anything he has to say would be pointless to me. I don't like causing myself needless aggravation. IP: Logged |
amowls*
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posted January 02, 2010 11:26 AM
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DD
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posted January 02, 2010 02:46 PM
Example (Just because I am interested in it myself):
place: LondonMars on 29°59 Cancer
16th october 2009 at 3:45 p.m. Mars on 00°00 Leo
16th october 2009 at 4:33 p.m. transition time: 48 minutes
Another example
Mars on 29°59 Cancer:
9th june 1974 at 1:15 a.m.
Mars on 00°00 Leo:
9th june 1974 at 1:54 a.m.
transition time: 39 minutes
So it seems to vary depending on an eventual retograde motion of Mars, which means that if it interests you in this particular case you have to calculate it yourself.
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vapor-lash
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posted January 02, 2010 03:37 PM
DD - That is the case on astro.com ^ You can't insert "seconds" when you provide your time of birth. Most places only count minutes.But technically the transition would occur in the smallest unit of time possible - which can be THE SECOND (if that's where you'd like to stop) There would have to be ONE PARTICULAR SECOND in that "minute time frame" when the planet is in one sign.. and a NEXT SECOND - when it switches. For example - Say you insert the time as 11:15 AM on astro.com.. and Venus is in Cancer. You then insert the time as 11: 16 and Venus is in Leo. That ^ does not mean that it took one minute to transition. Because during this one minute OF transition - there would still be one particular second when the transition occurs. Do you get what I mean? quote:
Mars on 29°59 Cancer
16th october 2009 at 3:45 p.m.Mars on 00°00 Leo
16th october 2009 at 4:33 p.m. transition time: 48 minutes
Here - If you insert 4:32 Mars would be Cancer. At 4:33 it is Leo. The transition will always be one minute ^ on astro.com, because they don't take seconds into account. __________________________________________
If you counted a unit even smaller than a SECOND (i.e. a millisecond = a thousandth of a second).. then the same pattern would stand for that. IP: Logged |
Predominantlyfire
Knowflake Posts: 147
From: Isle of Wight, U.K
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posted January 02, 2010 03:42 PM
Thank you DD. That information is enough for me to conclude that there is a window of some minutes, even half an hour or more where Mars could be half in one sign and half in another. This is what i thought. Sadie has it in both. No doubt about it. She's the first person i've ever had this with. It's incredible. Displaying both signs influence on the one planet and to a very strong and contrasting degree. ------------------
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vapor-lash
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posted January 02, 2010 03:49 PM
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That information is enough for me to conclude that there is a window of some minutes
True - only if your definition of "transition" is moving from 29'00 to 00'00.
The *actual* transition would still occur in a second (that's all I'm trying to explain lol) IP: Logged |
Glaucus
Knowflake Posts: 1952
From: Sacramento,California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 02, 2010 03:51 PM
Polo, I respect DD as a person and as an astrologer. She's a very good person,and she doesn't deserved to be talked to like she has been on this thread. you disrespect my friends, you disrespect me.
Raymond
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vapor-lash
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posted January 02, 2010 04:01 PM
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popcorn
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posted January 02, 2010 04:06 PM
I agree Raymond. I don't like people whitout respect. I don't understand when adult people retrogression to a stage for children.Someone say it's a eclipse or transit and so on. I don't believe on it at all. I'll never understund adult people which not can respect other people. I also think Polo be exposed to misunderstandings IP: Logged |
DD
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posted January 02, 2010 05:05 PM
Vapor lash,I agree. AStro.com has its drawbacks in that sense. Yet I thought the timeframe was narrow enough to get an impression, if we are talking about minutes or seconds here.
PDF,
you`re welcome.
Glaucus (and some of you others, too),
thank you for speaking up for me. You know that I appreciate that very much, just as I dislike rudeness. BUT I also think that everyone can be having a bad day now and then. So I think we can let it rest now.
I let him know that I didn`t appreciate his rude tone towards me, and he edited his post to make it a bit more "tame".
And quite honestly, this shouldn´t distract from the subject at hand, which I find pretty interesting.
Cause it means that if you are born with any personal planet close to a cusp, you still have to know the exact birthtime, cause otherwise you could end up having Venus or Mercury or even Mars in a different sign.
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vapor-lash
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posted January 02, 2010 05:21 PM
 DD_____________________________________________
Off-topic but I must say.. The threshold for human idiosyncrasy is set too low for my liking. I find several things idiosyncratic, in myself & others (on and offline).. but I can accept it and take the good with the bad. If someone gets banned unfairly - I am leaving. I can't.. be in this place. IP: Logged |
Predominantlyfire
Knowflake Posts: 147
From: Isle of Wight, U.K
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posted January 02, 2010 06:03 PM
I agree with Glaucus. Polo has been way out of line in this thread. I hope he learns something from us peace lovers. Instead of banning him maybe just give him a warning. Maybe ban him for 1 week.------------------
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Spanky Butler
Knowflake Posts: 456
From: Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 02, 2010 08:05 PM
I understood PDF's question. I also understand his frustration at most of the replies he's been given.DD got it right.
PDF I think it's Universal PMS week & you're the target rofl.
Here's a tip.... If you leave a few of these things laying around you might be able to escape most of the wrath.... 
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Lara
Knowflake Posts: 2372
From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 02, 2010 08:09 PM
quote:
Polo has been way out of line in this thread. I hope he learns something from us peace lovers. Instead of banning him maybe just give him a warning. Maybe ban him for 1 week.
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