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Topic: What's your Ideal Relationship ?
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swirl-kitt Knowflake Posts: 163 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 01:45 AM
and what is your venus + mercury ? (or any other relevant placement/aspects)what I specifically would like to know is whether you have strict rules , for instance, you are a jealous person but if someone really attractive comes along and you have great sex, would you be ok with a casual relationship for a while ? Do you start relationships right away to see whether it will work or not ? Or do you like hanging out or having sex a couple of times before making any commitments ? IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1055 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 10:22 AM
Mercury/Venus conjunct in Aries/8th house - conjunct Moon/BML.I used to think that I should know a person really really well before having any commitment with him. Now I don't see things too black and white, although I'd still prefer it that way. The reason I don't see things so strict now is coz I think that things/feelings happens naturally. So if we start liking each other, and we feel that we can trust each other, then why not give a chance? quote: what I specifically would like to know is whether you have strict rules , for instance, you are a jealous person but if someone really attractive comes along and you have great sex, would you be ok with a casual relationship for a while ?
I guess not. But I generally don't feel attracted to guys that aren't serious about feelings/relationships anyways, so I don't think that I'd get into such situations. quote: Do you start relationships right away to see whether it will work or not ?
With my bf (who's my first bf), we started our relationship within a month of knowing each other. But it's coz we started to like each other, and then I feel that I can also trust him (after knowing enough about him). But we didn't do anything before dating. quote: Or do you like hanging out or having sex a couple of times before making any commitments ?
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Shankara Knowflake Posts: 218 From: Buffalo, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 10:35 AM
I like to be in a committed relationship before having sex, and I like to get to know someone a bit first before jumping into a romantic relationship. No casual relationships.Libra Sun, with Mars and Venus conjunct in Leo the 7th, Venus exactly conjunct Karma, with Mercury in Virgo and Eros in Leo also in the 7th IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 188 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 10:35 AM
I've totally changed. In my younger years everything was dependent on the lust I felt. If the lust was gone (mostly after one or two times) everything was gone. There absolutely wasn't any room for a real commitment (although I thought there was). And now? Now, for the first time in my life, I have strict rules and I demand a strong level of emotional commitment & expression before I will go any further than just kissing. Well, in some way I have no choice since my uterus - by cervical cancer - is taken away from me and sexual intercourse isn't wat it was anymore and never will be. So, future sexual intercourse will simply be a sacrifice for me, born out of love, respect and deep understanding. My critical attitude is entirely changed, from a nice look and chemical attraction at the head of the list into the emotional aspects right now. Sad story, I suffered for years knowing that sexual intercourse would never be so easy - and the same again - as it was. The nice (developed) part is that I discovered a whole new intimate world that I probably had not discovered without all this sh*t.Ow jep, because my nerves are super-sensitive after all I went through I couldn't commit myself to anyone that will awake my deep jealousy. I think that relates pretty well to the emotional commitment at the head of the list. Well, so, yes people change. I changed in an extreme way (Pluto within a degree of my S/M) and I have this feeling that also my Sun/SN/Eros in the 12th have something to do with that. Ow ofcourse, don't forget my Retro Mars at 19'31 Aqua in aspect to that damn Heliocentric Mars nodes! (I noticed a great influence on me when transiting personal planets are in that 19/20 degree of fixed signs, almost scary).
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Ami Ann Knowflake Posts: 1349 From: US Registered: Dec 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 03:12 PM
Dear Mir I am sorry you had to go through that. You sound like you used that pain to find a deeper sense of love and self! I am inspired by your words! IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3801 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 03:28 PM
My ideal relationship is FAST in, no BS, lots of space and respect for our individualities.Words are cheap. I'm an action-orientated girl. As little insecurities and fear as possible and masses of HOT passionate FIRE loving... open communication, uninhibited and a great imagination. I like some scorpio in my men cos then they can match my sexiness and they need to have a high sex drive and be great in bed!! So bring your BRAINS with you!!!! No manipulation or controlling behaviour though. venus in aries mars in taurus juno in scorpio Sensual and sensitivity must be in the mix too - l guess i want it all
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Belage Knowflake Posts: 397 From: California Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 04:00 PM
Wow, Mir, what a story. If you don't mind my asking what are the natal aspects to your Venus and moon? IP: Logged |
blue moon Knowflake Posts: 1344 From: U.K Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 04:06 PM
Taurus Mercury CNJ Venus in the 7th. Square Aqua Mars. I don't have lists and I'm not much of one for rules, but I'm not going to waste my time with anyone who messes me about. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1765 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 04:37 PM
I don't think I have an "ideal".. My ideal would be a relationship that feels good.. to both of us (overall lol) and that makes us better people. It's a broad ideal. I'm not very specific about it. quote: whether you have strict rules
I don't have "strict rules" as such.. but there are things I would expect as a back and forth.. to make it *work* - like "mutual trust", a great mental connection, honesty.. quote: for instance, you are a jealous person but if someone really attractive comes along and you have great sex, would you be ok with a casual relationship for a while ?
I'm not a jealous person. In my past patterns of attraction - I only end up in serious relationships with men whom I truly feel LOVED by. If I feel uncertain - like either MY heart or theirs isn't actually *there* completely.. I wouldn't enter a "relationship". Any whiff of uncertainty from a man, any whiff of slight rejection.. puts me off. It's not a feeling of "hurt". It just feels like a put-off.. because I want something intense and mutual. So if he doesn't feel intensely passionate about me - I don't go there.. I lose interest. ___________ In the situation you described.. it really depends. I could be FRIENDS with a guy and find him attractive and possibly have sex, just for the sex.. when I actually feel nothing else for him. But this person wouldn't be "serious" to me.. It would just be a mutual physical release or whatever you'd like to call it. I think this is because I can LIKE sex for its own sake and there is no associated guilt or dogma.. There used to be.. but I woke up to myself.. I just find certain things disgusting now (religious and so-called spiritual views that try to control people's sexuality.. I could throw up. It disgusts me to no end).. These are things I used to wonder about when I was younger and nearly *believed* in.. But no. My views are very different now and I can proudly embrace my animality for everything it is. However, even in this kind of casual situation I'd have to really like the guy as a person and respect his intelligence. If I can't have fun banter and back and forth with someone - if they seem too serious to me, too dogmatic, too preachy, too insane.. but most of all: IF they have some kind of sexual psychological- "issues" or body issues.. I'm not interested. I like men who like themselves (including the animalistic parts).. I like men who can be BOTH intellectual and raw, depending on the situation (I think I'm describing Sag, which is funny because my ex is a Sag lol) If you have some kind of interesting inner-conflict you'd like me to help you resolve - all I have to say is: I'm sorry, but I've been through a lot in my life.. and it is now HOLIDAY time for me.. I don't feel like wasting time and energy providing psychological help - which is often unappreciated anyhow. quote: Do you start relationships right away to see whether it will work or not ? Or do you like hanging out or having sex a couple of times before making any commitments ?
I don't make commitments right away and I don't "date" as such. I never planned it this way lol.. But this is always what happens as a pattern. My past relationships (only 2 that I see as serious - I'm 23, almost 24) began with men at the place where I was either working or studying at the time, so usually I was around the person often, sometimes daily.. during that period (we didn't "date"). I did know a lot about them before we actually started going out.. on both occasions, but I didn't have sex with either in the initial stages.. I think we only had sex after it was "official" - Although this wasn't something I planned. I just don't go there sexually - unless I know the person for a while.. I don't feel physically OK around ppl I don't know well.. and I'm not very attracted either (I need to have a story line in my head to feel "in the mood" – and it takes a while for me to see the story.. For instance – I have nothing against one-nighters, morally speaking, nor am I apprehensive for other reasons (like the traditional ideas about keeping a guy hooked by withholding sex - no).. but I don't find it a "turn-on" to go there, so it defeats the purpose for me. Why have sex that I KNOW I won't enjoy? If I was having casual sex, as I said above.. it would be with a male "friend" - someone I LIKE and KNOW and have known for some time.. I'm easy-going in situations like that.. I can be just friends the next day, no problems. I only desire exclusivity when I feel "in love". ________________________
My Venus - Tauries (I think you know that story lol) - 11th house aspects: - conjunct NN, trine Mars/Neptune, opposite Pluto. My Mars - Capricorn - 7th house aspects: - square Sun (very wide), trine Venus/NN, sextile Jupiter, conjunct Neptune, sextile Pluto. My Mercury - Pisces - 10th house (why did you ask for Mercury? - just curious.. People tend to disregard Mercury in relationships & sex.. but I think that's a mistake lol) aspects - sextile Moon, square Uranus, wide conj Jupiter. IP: Logged |
DepTaurus Knowflake Posts: 1044 From: canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 04:44 PM
taurus mercury venus in aries here.if i was too enter a relationship. i would do it right away somehow they always doo lol. must be my venus square uranus in 5th house that is responsible for that. i dont really get jealous much . sometimes ill get jealous if someone pays attention to me alot one day to the point where its needy. then by the end of the day ill get used to it. then the next day they are really independat and withdrawn.that will get me jealous its like whats wrong with you. i dont put sex with a casual relationship. if you want sex then wait 6 or whenever im ready. i mean if you care that much then wait. im mostly a fast relationship starter but then once in a relationship i like to take it really slow. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3801 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 04:46 PM
Me too Dep I don't do sex for the sake of it either and i always make men wait until i feel ready. IP: Logged |
Predominantlyfire Knowflake Posts: 274 From: Registered: Dec 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 04:47 PM
My ideal realtionship is portrayed in True Romace written by the one and only Tarrantino. For me it depicts immediate love, knowing that you've met a kindred soul, and instant emotional intensity. Immediately identifying a similarity that you each have been waiting your whole life to find in someone. Someone you instantly trust, desire, care for, and love. Simple. Instant is my keyword. Instant and total. For me there are no half measures. I am Venus (6th house) and Mercury (5th house) in Sagittarius (since you asked). Although Mars in Scorpio in 5th. That's my ideal 'realtionship'. But if i meet someone i fancy but they are not 'the one' for what ever reason. Yes i'll still have sex with them if i can. Too right.------------------ neutralcruiser@hotmail.co.uk IP: Logged |
DepTaurus Knowflake Posts: 1044 From: canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 04:50 PM
lol we both have mercury in taurus and venus in aries must be why were the same.IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3801 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 04:57 PM
True Romance is one of my fav films lol Yeah Dep!! Venus in Aries is incredibly romantic, are you?
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amowls* Knowflake Posts: 1160 From: richmond va Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 05:01 PM
I hook up with a lot of people and THEN I decide whether I like them enough to be in a relationship with them.Except my current boyf, we didn't hook up or even kiss or anything for a month, but we went on a lot of dates. Once we started having sex, we were immediately a couple. I have Venus in my 10th square Saturn and Uranus. I also have Mars in Sag in my 6th trine my DSC ruler (Jupiter) and sextile my Sun, Moon, Merc, opposite Chiron. Mercury is in Aquarius in my 9th conjunct my Sun, trine Moon, Chiron, etc etc. IP: Logged |
DepTaurus Knowflake Posts: 1044 From: canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 05:13 PM
romantic not really a pistol yeah. of course i have mars in pisces i guess yeah i am romantic.how about you lara. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 3801 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 05:16 PM
I like romance but for me the one thing that i must have is depth and intensity... i wanna feel like i'm on another planet. It must be a fire thing cos Predom also i think mentioned the all or nothing thing and i don't have any scorpio in me!! lol IP: Logged |
pire Knowflake Posts: 1350 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 05:17 PM
pisces venus, psyche and mercury, aquarius sun, virgo mars and aries erosI am determined and I don't mind struggling for him. some like blue moon might remember this guy I talked about this summer, well, he's still my "target" I said I had given hope for a romantic relationship but I guess I haven't, and I've got one other option much closer and damned sexy but I won't change my mind (sometimes it's hard though, literally) I'm so determined Because with the one I want, I will be everything my libra moon and cancer rising desire; a homely, nurturing, 6'4, independent, sweet, strong warm, husband, cooking for my husband I might also pi$$ him off and I expect struggle in my relationship, but I'm ready to put up with it. I'm seriously considering the worst scenario and there are 2 things that I do Not want: kids from his past and him being passive with someone else. kids is because I would have loved to have some But being gay, I think life has made the choice for me. and also I had a step dad and I don't want to be one myself. the passive thing is because I'm quite reserved about it myself so I wish he would consider it precious too, and preferably for me. ps: the one I want has eros in cap exactly on my dsc and exactly squaring my eros right now, it looks grim. I actually don't expect much to happen, but I swear to god that I will not fall for anyone else (I already regret my stubbornness) well, if the one I see everyday insisted much, and considering nothing is happening with the one I want, and being seriously tickled by his sag eros exactly in trine with my aries eros and his scorp mars exactly trine my pisces venus, and his asteroid union exactly on my IC... i mean, he would have to insist and to show me who he is first. regarding the sex, the more I love someone, the more puritan I am, and I think it's my venus in pisces here, not when the relationship is started obviously but before that. IP: Logged |
mir Knowflake Posts: 188 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 05:21 PM
Thanx for your sweet words Ami Ann.Hi Belage, Here my Venus (can) and Moon (scorp) aspects., Venus trine Neptune (0'28*) Venus sextile Pluto (2'09*) Venus trine Jupiter (3'13*) Venus trine/sextile S/M (2'52) Venus conj. Sun (7'32*) Venus trine/sextile MC/IC (4'13*) Moon square Mars (3*) Moon square NN (1'56*) Moon square Sun (9'06*) wide Moon square Juno (1*) Moon opp. Pallas (4*) Wow.. a lack of balance I see..
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DepTaurus Knowflake Posts: 1044 From: canada Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 05:23 PM
thats so strange lara because. i cant stand bull either. its all or nothing. i only have one scorpio placement pluto right on ic.oh and mars in 8th house scorpio ruled. IP: Logged |
Cheshire Kat Knowflake Posts: 534 From: Wonderland Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 05:36 PM
When you get out of highschool and start living in the real world beyond cliques and peer pressure, your whole view on relationships change because you get little bit older and a little bit more expereince.Though, I guess I would like to be myself, I would like to be loved and accepted as myself because Im not perfect but at the same time people should not settle for my bad traits. They should be honest with me and I will be honest with them. Be open with me and I will be open with you slowly but surely. I do not like the " let's be one" philosphy, I am not a posession or a bottle of glue that wants to stick to you lol, I value individaulity in myself and others. I never liked when people tried to change me, I will change if I feel I have to. I would like someone who I can call my best friend in the whole world and my lover. In other words I need to laugh a hell of a lot with you. Pisces Moon(Emotions)-Aspects Pluto and Mars located in the 3rd house(Using whole house system, this is why Im bonkers) Virgo Mars(Desire)-Aspects Saturn(Good Lord lol) locatd in the 9th house. Venus in Leo(Love Crap)-Aspects Mercury,Pluto,Jupiter, and my Asc and it is located in the 8th house. Oops..forgot about Mercury in Leo(BS Communication)-Aspects Venus, Jupiter, and Pluto located in the 8th house. IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 901 From: Ohio Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 08:19 PM
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jane Knowflake Posts: 595 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted January 03, 2010 08:25 PM
quote: Virgo Mars(Desire)-Aspects Saturn(Good Lord lol)
Btw, I think that's a great aspect to have. IP: Logged |