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Alvarella777
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posted January 04, 2010 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, folks out there - I hope I manage to find the right words for my question (no native speaker).

It's about NAME asteroids. Suppose, your love-partner carries a quite common name, say... STEVE. You find an asteroid called STEVE and you study aaaallllll the aspets STEVE is forming to your chart ... you even make a STEVE-persona-chart on astro.com - in short: You study STEVE (the asteroid) until you know him by heart.

Then .... in real life, you break-up with your guy, that man called STEVE. You get hurt, sulk, finally you forget him one day.

But suddenly something comes to your mind, which you never thought about before: The last man you had kissed BEFORE that important relationship-Steve entered your life ... he happened to be called "Steve" as well ...

AND, even more spooky: The man that is CURRENTLY after you, trying to win your heart and all ... he's called STEVE again!!!

Honestly: This is EXACTLY what is happening to me, right now!!! The first STEVE was a guy, I had a short, unimportant affair with - something which I quickly forgot. Soon after that I met THEE STEVE -a man I feel in love with, and hard, we had a 1.5-year-realtionship, and it ended miserably and hurt me a lot. It took more than 14 months to get over it, at least to get over it to ... 88%. So: Almost 2 years single since then. And NOW ... the one guy that really, really seems to care for me and is struggling so hard to win my love ... he's called STEVE as well!!!

That latest Steve is a completely different type to my Ex, different in most any aspect - astrologically (he's a Pisces, the Ex was a Leo), as well as in real life terms. BUT: I've studied asteroid STEVE so thoroughly ... and I do know about the really, really BAD impact it has on my chart, astrologically speaking ... that I just don't trust that new flirt.

To say it as clear as possible: After the experience with my horrible Ex ... I just NEVER WANT TO HAVE ANY "STEVE" IN MY LIFE AGAIN! ;-) Honestly: I can't stand that name anymore!

What to do about that?

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Lara
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posted January 04, 2010 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
hahaha

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Name asteroids are cool though. Have you checked yours with your parents?

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Alvarella777
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posted January 04, 2010 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
LARA: No - I never checked my parents' names in my chart before. GREAT IDEA, thanks for calling my attention on this one ... And: It's fascinating! At least, as far as my Mum's nme is concerned:

My MUM's name is in my 10th
- cj. my Sun/Moon-Mp (2dg)
- opposing my Chiron (exact)
- squaring my Eros (2dg)

More "special things" about my Mum and my chart, btw:
- Her SUN 25° Sagittarius - My MOON in my 1st house in 23° Sag.
- Her NN 12° Aries - my CHIRON 10 ° Aries

I didn't find an appropriate asteroid for my Dad's and brother's name...

What about your parent's names and your chart, LARA? And: How are gonna resolve your PETER-problem????

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posted January 05, 2010 12:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
haha!!!!! - i once put a sign on my door saying, "no bob's allowed"

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posted January 05, 2010 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
No Michael`s for me. NJET!

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posted January 05, 2010 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
My LARA is conjunct my mother's venus.
My LARA is conjunct my dad's surname and trine his sun/moon.
My dad's first name is square my saturn/NN yikes! and cj EXACT my destinn.
My surname is square my sun!
My mums first name is cj my jupiter and IC and my Kleopatra.
My LARA is conjunct my AC (loosely)

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posted January 05, 2010 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
My MUM`S name (my chart) exactly conjuncts my Saturn!
my Mum`s name sextiles my name

my Dad`s name (my chart) exactly opposes my Sun-Mercury-conjunction.

my DD trines my Mum`s Venus
my DD sextiles my Mum`s own name

my Mum`s name (her chart) conjuncts her name in my chart and my Saturn, sextile my name


my DD trines my Dad`s Mercury
my DD trines my Dad`s Saturn and ASC exact
my DD squares my Dad`s Pluto

his name (his chart) opposes my Moon
his name trines my Chiron

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Lara
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posted January 05, 2010 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
WOW DD!!! lol

Saturn seems to be a common link :S

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posted January 06, 2010 04:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CopenhagenDreaming     Edit/Delete Message
Hahaha, how funny! - I just saw the movie "All About Steve" with Sandra Bullock, and then came online to see this thread!!

I guess it really is all about Steve at the moment :-D

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posted January 06, 2010 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
EDIT: LOL for speaking too soon. Karma?

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posted January 06, 2010 04:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Well Saturn would make sense in parental relationship, wouldn´t it?

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posted January 06, 2010 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
No idea how to resolve the Peter problem but he seems to be coming back so I will just stay cool!
I think when it gets intense he runs.

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posted January 06, 2010 05:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
You have mail.

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posted January 06, 2010 06:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
thanks

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posted January 06, 2010 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I have believed in name asteroids since 2000, especially after reading the work of Jacob Schwartz, the Asteroid Man.

Here is asteroid stuff on my Mom, I wanted to show you the asteroids of my father and stepfather in her chart

I also included the race,ethnic asteroids because my father and stepfather had black ancestry. Interracial relationships have a
history of being challenging. This was true for my mom's interracial relationships.

List of asteroids checked out:

Lawrence,Laurentia,Larry in regards to my father being first named
Lawrence and called Larry

Scott,Scotti in regards to my father's last name

Black,Africa,Africano,Negron,Niger in regards to Black African
ancestry
Niger is the name of a country,but it is also Latin for "Black"

Davida,Davidedwards,Davidbrown in regards to my stepfather whose
first name was David and middle name was Edwards....he had light
brown skin)

Brown in regards to skin color


in my mom's chart
Scotti in 5'55 Cancer in 1st:
conjunct Jupiter in 4'29 Cancer in 1st
trines Saturn in 3'04 Scorpio in 5th(Children,Romance)
oppose Mars(Animus) in 5'49 Capricorn Retrograde in 7th(Relationships)
(Wedge configuration)

in my mom's chart:
Scott in 22'38 Aquarius in 9th(another race):
oppose Pluto(intensity,transformation) in 22'54 Leo in 3rd
oppose Niger(Black) in 23'26 Leo in 3rd
trine Sun(animus planet) in 21'59 Gemini in 12th
trine Neptune(sensitivity,idealism) in 23'24 Retrograde in 5th
(Children)
(KITE configuration....whooaa!)

in my chart:
Scotti in 5'23 Scorpio in 2nd
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd
(my father's last name was Scott...how fitting!)..also my Sun-Scotti conjunction trines my Mom's Scotti within half a degree!

in my chart:
Scott in 10'39 Cancer (family) in 10th(father)
square Chiron in 10'32 Aries Retrograde in 8th
square Africa in 11'15 Aries Retrograde in 8th
square Eris in 12'15 Aries Retrograde in 8th
square Africano in 12'38 Aries Retrograde in 8th
semisextile Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini
(well...this seems to reflect him being my father and his black
ancestry that inherited as well that leads to diversity issues as a
painful connection with him and diversity issues)

in my mom's chart:
Lawrence in 25'56 Pisces in 10th.
trine 5th/12th house ruler Venus in 25'04 Cancer in 2nd
semisextile Africa in 26'06 Aries Retrograde in 11th
semisextile Africano in 25'25 Aries Retrograde in 11th
(Looks like my mother was meant to have a relationship with my black
father to have me...she also has a history of having many black
friends overall in her life)...it's interesting that she has a t-
square of Venus,Africano-Africa,Neptune in 23'25 Libra in 5th
indicate significant relationship challenges involving
love/relationships with blacks and child that resulted from one)

in my mom's chart
Larry in 8'13 Pisces in 9th (another race)
conjunct Midheaven in 8'57 Pisces
square Black in 7'32 Gemini in 12th
square Negron(Black) in 10'52 Gemini in 12th
trine Brown in 11'01 Scorpio Retrograde in 5th(children)
(Larry was another named that my father was called.....looks like a
strong soul connection that my mom had with my black father...her
romances and children brownskinned....she even has Venus semisquare
Negron with 48 minutes of arc)


in my chart:
Larry in 13'35 Gemini Retrograde in 10th
conjunct Brown in 13'46 Gemini Retrograde in 10th
conjunct Midheaven in 11'14
trine Vertex in 14'49 Aquarius in 5th
trine Uranus in 15'17 Libra in 2nd
sextile Chiron in 10'29 Aries Retrograde in 8th
sextile Africa in 11'15 Aries Retrograde in 8th
sextile Eris in 12'15 Aries Retrograde in 8th
sextile Africano in 12'38 Aries Retrograde in 8th
square Ascendant in 13'27 Virgo
(well..this reflects my father with my resembling him with my having
some of his black African features as well as my black African
Inheritance from him...also..my liberal,unconventional,relationship
values connected to him....my father had medium to dark brown skin,
and i have light brown/dark tan skin)

in my mom's chart
Laurentia in 16'56 Leo in 3rd
square Chart ruler Moon in 18'51 Scorpio in 5th
square Vertex in 19'03 Scorpio in 5th
(this configuration indicates fated relationship,intense emotional
involvement with him that led to me being born)

in my chart:
Laurentia in 25'28 Sagittarius in 4th(home,ancestral roots)
sextile Mars in 25'54 Aquarius in 6th
sextile Black in 27'41 Aquarius in 6th
quincunx my Negron(Black) in 25'25 Cancer in 11th
(YOD configuration!....Mars disposits my Eris-Chiron-Africa-Africano
conjunction as well as as co-ruler of Scorpio, disposits my
Sun.....so this could reflect his being my father who I inherited my
black African ancestry from which leads to diversity issues but also
a wound because I don't know him)

in my mom's chart:
Davidedwards in 18'56 Leo in 3rd
square Chart ruler Moon in 18'51 Scorpio in 5th
square Vertex in 19'03 Scorpio in 5th
(David and Edward are the first and middle names of my
stepfather......this configuration indicates that her meeting fated
relationship,intense involvment with him that also affected me.)
its interesting that my mom has Laurentia-David Edwards conjunction
square her Moon in 5th.....this shows that it was a fated meeting..he was was meant to replace my father as somebody important in our lives...my stepfather had Sun in Leo)


In my chart:
Davidedwards in 21'44 Libra in 2nd
Venus in 21'47 Scorpio in 3rd
contraparallel Ascendant - '10
contraparallel Chiron - '10
(I did have a painful relationship with my stepfather)


in my mom's chart:
Davida in 16'38 Sagittarius Retrograde in 6th
quincunx 4th house ruler Mercury in 15'27 Cancer
(My mom did have communication problems with him)


in my mom's chart:
Davidbrown in 20'54 Scorpio Retrograde in 5th
conjunct Vertex in 19'03 Scorpio in 5th
conjunct Moon in 18'51 Scorpio in 5th
square Pluto in 22'54 Leo in 3rd
quincunx Sun in 21'59 Gemini in 12th
(my stepfather,David had light brown skin from being part black, and
this configuration indicates intense emotional connection that
affected me that included power issues...it was an abusive
relationship that led to me being abused)'

in my chart:
Davidbrown in 12'33 Aries Retrograde in 8th
conjunct Africano in 12'38 Aries Retrograde in 8th
conjunct Eris in 12'15 Aries Retrograde in 8th
conjunct Africa in 11'15 Aries Retrograde in 8th
conjunct Chiron in 10'32 Aries Retrograde in 8th
sextile Midheaven in 11'14 Gemini
sextile Lunar Nodes in 10'29 Aquarius in 5th/Leo in 11th
quincunx Ascendant in 13'27 Virgo
(this fits with my part black stepfather figure who was
psychologically,physically abusive with me as well as the diversity
issues)


I also have the following 2 asteroids in almost exact conjunction

Davida in 20'31 Sagittarius in 4th
Lawrence in 20'39 Sagittarius in 4th

and they semisquare the Sun (Father) with 11 and 19 minutes of arc.


It was no accident that my mom met my father and had a child with
him. It was no accident that she met my stepfather too. It seems like
she was meant to be with my stepfather so he would be my father
figure.


It seems like everything happens for a reason.


Raymond

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the truth is it only matters relatively"

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posted January 06, 2010 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message
Hee hee...

I've noticed that the name asteroids of guys that I've dated have tended to show up in my 5th or 7th house.

For me though, it's not the same names so much as names that start with the same letters, either J or A.

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posted January 06, 2010 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
with my man i have:

his LARA cj my valentine
his PETER opp my valentine
his MIDDLE NAME/union cj my AC/aphrodite

my PETER cj my moon/venus and his eros.
my PETER opp his saturn
my SURNAME opp his GROOM/NN
my LARA cj his union/middle name

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posted January 06, 2010 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
This is interesting. I often get Alexanders.. I checked "Alex" and it is conjunct my Venus/NN!

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posted January 06, 2010 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Name asteroids.. can never cease to amaze me lol~

I remember once checking Sasaki (the name of a brand of massage chairs that my mom desires and hopes that I'll get her one in the future X3 ), and it's exactly conjunct my Saturn lol~

In my bf's chart, my name is on his Sun/Moon midpoint and trine his Karma/Fortuna. X3 And my other name variant is right on his DC and conjunct his Valentine/Union (and also conjuncts my AC).
There's also a wide (4º~5ºdegrees) grand trine between my name, his name and the name of the country we live lol~ X3

And interesting is, his <country where we live> is conjunct my <my hometown>/NN, while his <my hometown> is opposed to my <country where we live>.

His name variant in my chart (his name isn't in the asteroids list) is conjunct my Karma and trine my Moon/Venus/Mercury.

My <his name variant> trines his <my name>, and in the draconic synastry, they are conjunct. X3

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posted January 07, 2010 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Name-Asteroids work because of the "Law of Attraction".
Here is something that even Jacob Schwartz does not know: www.tamsoft.co.in/pogson.html

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posted January 07, 2010 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
what does it mean when the name asteroid conjunct each other in a synsatry chart? Eg, My name asteroid(5th house) in his chart conjuncts his name asteroid(7th house) in my chart.
Plus I found it interesting that my name asteroid in my chart is conjunct my AC and very tightly conjunct his NN.What does it mean, that I have some karmic debts to fulfill for/with him?

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posted January 07, 2010 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe one of the Steve´s is more important to you,and that translates in your charts interlinked.

you cannot only see how Steve is in your chart,but also see how your NAme asteroid is in his charts.

Usually it will show a kind of DW´S TIed up with love asteroids and with angles and personal asteroids.

for example,my bf had only another bf before me,also called Ana.like me.

If i look into his chart,i can look to:

JohnPaul
Jonnhy
Anna
Hanna

My Sun cj his Hanna
his Sun cj my Hanna
His JohnPaul/Juno cj wide my IC
His Jonnhy cj my IC
My Jonnhy cj his MC
My Anna cj his Adorea

His John and JoHnPaul trine my Sun,and my Anna trine his Sun

His John/JohnPaul/Anna trine my Juno, my JohnPaul opose his Juno and trine his Anna.

DRACONIC

his D.Hanna cj my D.KARMA/VALENT/MARS
my D.Hanna cj his D.Sturn/Pluto
MY D.Felicitas cj his D.JohnPaul and Juno

DAY WE MET

Tr VAlentine cj My Jonnhy
Tr Jonnhy cj My JohnPaul
Tr Felicitas cj my Venus
Tr NODE cj MY Felicitas
Tr JUNO cj my ASC/Hanna
Tr UNION cj MY Amor

Tr Felicitas cj J´s Hanna
Tr HAnna/Uran cj J´s AMOR
Tr Valentine cj J+s MC -opose Tr Juno/Karma

Lke IQ said to me one time,about name asteroids,when your Soul is ready to love,you will atract the perfect partner to you,one that is at the same Soul frequency that you are.Through name asteroids you can really confirm that,not only between sinastry ( trop and draco),but also at the time you met ( transits and maybe SR too)

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posted January 07, 2010 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

The Nodes of Name Asteroids work the same way too.


ON ASTEROIDS, NODES AND NAMES

Students of astrology early on become familiar with the Nodes of the Moon but few bother themselves with the Nodes of the planets, far less the asteroids. Yet asteroidal Nodes do have relevance, sometimes even in a highly significant way. The Nodes are the points where the plane of the orbit of the asteroid cuts the orbit of the Earth around the Sun. Viewed heliocentrically the Nodes form an axis where the North or Ascending Node is exactly opposite the South or Descending node.

As with the Lunar Nodes The North Node connects to ‘reception’, ‘uptake’ and ‘association’ whereas the South Node refers to the opposite qualities of ‘departure’, ‘release’ and dissociation. We tend to find receiving easier than releasing, which is why the North Node has a better press than the South Node. Clearly, any planet whether in the natal horoscope or by transit, which aspects one Node must also form a complimentary aspect to the other.

There is a group of asteroids called the Centaurs. They have highly elliptical orbits and long orbital periods, which at aphelion can place a few as remotely distant from us as Pluto. The first one to be discovered of these was Chiron. The name is all-important. In mythology Chiron suffered long from a wound inflicted on him by an arrow from Hercules. Chiron is also a comet and from the earliest times comets were feared as harbingers of disaster. It is no surprise therefore to find in astrological terms that Chiron is seen as a significator of woundedness, initially-and hopefully later, of healing.

The North Node of Chiron is close to 29 degrees of Libra, so this point in a horoscope could reflect an association (North Node) with woundedness (Chiron) in a relationship (Libra).

The greatest crisis of my life occurred in 1983 when I suffered an agonising divorce. As my marriage fell apart transiting Saturn and transiting Pluto, which had been in my 7th house for some time, now crossed the North Node of Chiron and the above noted possibility became reality.

There are other less dramatic but nevertheless interesting indications of the importance of an asteroidal name in combination with the North Node.

My natal Sun is at 19 degrees of Aries but this is also the location of the North Node of the asteroid Bach. As a schoolboy I learned to play the piano and often had to practise the composition of a Johann Sebastian Bach. Later, in my healing work, I learned to use and still today prepare flower essence remedies as initially advocated by one Dr. Edward Bach. Today, I reside in Wales where occasionally someone in the local language will address me as ‘Bach’ meaning ‘small, or young one’.

So what significance does an asteroid have? Maybe more than you bargained for.

NOTE: Many computer programs routinely offer ephemeris data on Chiron, Ceres, Juno, Vesta and Pallas Athene – the most important of these minor planets. Their North Nodes are listed in ‘The Ultimate Asteroid Book’ by Dr.J.Lee Lehman, copyright 1988 and published by Whitford Press, West Chester, Pennsylvania, U.S.A.

Roy MacKinnon.
http://www.bristolastrology.net/bsa/asteroid_nodes.html


Raymond

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the truth is it only matters relatively"

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posted January 10, 2010 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Alverella!!!

I love name asteroids!! Check out Steve in aspect to your Neptune. I share a name asteroid conjunct Neptune DW and I think it's quite significant

Also, see how asteroid Steve's number fits into your life. One name asteroid is the same number as my ebay sign in number - just a wierd connection, but I was surprised when I saw it.

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posted May 27, 2010 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
It works with Western names just fine. Get something non-Western and it all falls apart lol

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