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Topic: What the heck is going on between these two people?
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Alvarella777
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posted January 05, 2010 01:04 AM
 
Okay, you're free to drop some of your ideas, suspicions, theories on this pairing below. What is their "topic", what binds them together, what is the basic energy of this pairing, is it a winning or a losing game?Say, STELLA is on the inside, and BOB on the outside: 
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Dreamy_AriesGirl
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posted January 05, 2010 03:05 AM
The woman's Sun conjunct the man's DC and Saturn, and the woman's Sun is in the man's 7th house...so they might feel that they are a perfect match for each other.By any chance, is this a long distance relationship? And if not, do they strongly want to be always close to each other, living together? I just ask, because the guy's North Node conjunct the girl's IC...and i have this with someone whome i had a short LDR last summer, and the fact that we are far away still kills me (Im the N.Node person in our case) IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted January 05, 2010 03:22 AM
I can't believe it will last. To much hard breake off aspects between the chart. Saturn/uran/jupiter/chiron in conflict in both synastry and composite. No chance to make this relationship work in longterm.IP: Logged |
vertiver
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posted January 05, 2010 03:36 AM
I agree with popcorn, especially Mars conjunct the ASC. Mars is probably the worst planet to associate with relationships, it is the fighter in us, the motivator and is also selfish in many respects. "Its me or the highway," is what I always think of. IP: Logged |
vertiver
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posted January 05, 2010 03:47 AM
Alvarella77 and Popcorn, take a look at this composite:  Lets see if you can figure out what is going on between these two people and they barely know eachother! IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted January 05, 2010 04:32 AM
Saturn alone. I cant se any durable connetion from saturn... uranus opp chiron = breake off.Sorry  but I cant believe on this either.. IP: Logged |
belgz
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posted January 05, 2010 08:19 AM
Ok it looks as though this relationship started recently..Looking at transits each to their own charts.. One person has transit uranus opposing their natal venus and the other has transit pluto square their natal venus. Result is a quick exciting and crazy relationship that wont last. Composite charts backs this up with transit uranus conjunct the composite moon showing sudden erratic exciting emotions and being the conjunction makes it very potent. Transit neptune trines the composite venus and transit saturn makes a square aspect to it. Very exciting, lots of emotions and feelings but its unlikely to work out considering the transits this love relationship has started out on. ------------------
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Belage
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posted January 05, 2010 12:41 PM
The composite looks pretty good to me, except for those pesky Saturn/Jupiter square and Saturn/Chiron square.IP: Logged |
Alvarella777
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posted January 05, 2010 05:11 PM
Dreamy_Aries_Girl: Yes - Their house-overlay and their axis-conjunctions are remarkable - and I'm sure about his hour of birth and of the time of day (range 3-4 hours) when she was born - so the ASC/DSC- and IC/MC-conjunctions are real. And: Yes - it's a long distance relationship.Popcorn and Vertiver: I also see some rather stressful, draining, exhausting, frustrating aspects - or, better said: Many "nice" aspects are spoilt by not so nice ones. In SYNASTRY: many heavy Saturn/Node/Pluto/Chiron-contacts: Her SUN cj. her own NEMESIS
- cj. his Saturn
- cj. his Chiron
>>> Might turn out as a heavy burden for her His SUN cj. his own MERCURY
- cj. her Nessus
>>> Who is totally depending on whom? His PLUTO
- oppose her Sun
>>> He wants to mould her, totally control, posses and reign her, she feels stuffocated and manipulated His PLUTO
- square her Uranus
>>> He fights any of her independent streaks, she constantly provokes his anger His SATURN
- oppose her PLUTO
>>> ouch - a neverending power struggle His NODE cj. NESSUS
- cj. her CHIRON
- cj. her BM Lilith
>>> Again: mind games, fear, inhibited joy, difficult, burdened with heavy psychological stuff Their VENUSses oppose (his Venus cj. his Nemesis) >>> Do opposites attract? Or do they have completely different tastes and values? Her MARS cj. her URANUS
- in his 4th >>> She brings him enthusiasm and wakes him up - or she disturbs his inner peace Her MARS
- square his NN >>> she's a disturbing influence on his social life and personal evolvement, she costs him a lot of energy Her NEPTUNE
- square his SUN
- square his MERCURY
- square his URANUS
- square his CHIRON
>>> Gosh - whom is this worse for? No. I also think: It won't work. They will be drawn to each other strongly, at least in the beginning. They'll cling to each other, maybe for a longer period of time. But it will be sheer psycho terror, tears, hurt, emotional over-excitement, lots of fights and disappointments. And will COST SO MUCH ENERGY, each of them. IP: Logged |
Alvarella777
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posted January 05, 2010 05:18 PM
BELGZ: I guess you named all the important transits going on for them - great!Belage: I agree: The Composite looks much nicer. If only that Neptune-Mercury-opposition from 1st to 7th house wasn't there ... I'm also not so sure about that Venus-Moon-square in the Composite... Vertiver: I'll come back to yours. IP: Logged |
Alvarella777
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posted January 05, 2010 05:20 PM
Popcorn: Yes! Uranus-opp-Chiron in Composite ... nasty! And Saturn losely conjunct Valentine ... Hm.IP: Logged |
vertiver
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posted January 05, 2010 06:52 PM
That is weird both composites have Uranus opposite Chiron. I'm trying to figure out how you would interpret this aspect: erratic energy that exposes wounds or a re-awaking of wounds or in the positive regards to Chiron, a new and different way of healing wounds. What do you think, does that sound right- Alvarella and popcorn or do you have a better interpretation for Uranus opposite Chiron? The composite I posted probably will never manifest because it takes a while before composites even begin to blossom, sorta speak. And its not the most probable that these two people will ever be more than sexual acquaintances. But you see the 8th house stellium and the yod! IP: Logged |
comica23
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posted January 05, 2010 08:00 PM
Hmm I remember hearing that the Uranus/Chiron opposition itself isn't really meaningful, as it often appears in the charts (or something like that).
Jupiter sextile Venus brings fun and attraction, but with Saturn square Chiron/Jupiter, and maybe even Uranus in the picture (not sure if the orb is too wide), there might be commitment issues.By the way, what does Nemesis exactly mean? IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted January 05, 2010 08:07 PM
Don't like this synastry or composite...I have the same MC/IC axis with my guy and that part is GREAT but saturn on the sun and the Mars on Composite AC? etc etc YIKES!!!! IP: Logged |
DD
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posted January 05, 2010 08:11 PM
Nemesis was the Goddess, who took care that the scales of justice / karma were balanced.
Usually humans considered her to be harsh and just bringin pain to them. But she really is about karmic justice.
My Nemesis is opposing a guy`s Moon. And his Nemesis is conjunct my Sun. I don`t know about him, but for a long time I really viewed him as my "Nemesis", even before I ever knew about this asteroid.
In some, rather painful, way he took care that my dreams didn´t become illusions, and he made me face some sides of myself I wouldn`t want to have seen before. But it was very necessary; yet very uncomfortable.
Example:
I ahve always been VERY proud of my tolerance towards anyone, including gay people.
And through him I learned that it is a completely different thing to learn tolerance, if you are PERSONALLY affected.
It is completely easy to be tolerant towards a stranger or friend, who is gay; but fall in love with a man, who turns out to be gay - NOW THAT is a completely different matter.
Suddenly tolerance and total acceptance is not so easy anymore.
But it can be learned. 
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Lara
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posted January 05, 2010 08:16 PM
Why is URANUS opposing CHIRON in composite a break up aspect please? :OI have this with my man:
uranus 6th house in leo 21'
chiron 12th house in aqua 25'
and they square SUN yikes!!!! help! IP: Logged |
DD
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posted January 05, 2010 08:23 PM
Well, I don`t think it is. But the nature of both objects and then in an opposition may be hard to balance.Just think of it.
Uranus likes to shake up, whatever he touches. He can be erratic, flighty, sometimes even downright cold in his attempts to avoid "normality", which also can mean he is running away from comfort and responsibility.
So he is there, shaking up and shocking. And now Chiron, so he is shaking up the wound, inherent in the relationship. That spot where the couple is most sensitive. And it is always under tension, always someone or something is coming to sensitize this nerve, probably oversensitize it, and maybe being downright disruptive. Of course the people could learn a lot from it, but you have to be pretty strong to endure this unpredictability and "going away, coming back again, going away...".
But then it also is generational.
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Lara
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posted January 05, 2010 08:25 PM
Yeah it must be generational cos i have it with a few ex's! lolIt sounds horrible DD ~ exhausting and draining! IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted January 05, 2010 08:38 PM
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=5571 IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted January 05, 2010 09:08 PM
For me it seems easy to know how chiron and uranus in opposition and square works. Could something be more devided when this two go against each other.My on and off relationship show this influence so clear. I have lived with it so close into. His uranus opposite my chiron. It was really on and off. Again and again we break of and so togheter again... I really wish it's over now and I will believe our relationship are finished. We not meet each other in 7 months. In my case I think T pluto opp N mars,N.N, T saturn square my N venus, T chiron square N juno, T chiron squre N jupiter helped me to breake off the relationship well... Without this transit I am sure I want to go back to him again....
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Lara
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posted January 05, 2010 09:11 PM
I am off with mine but looks like now it's back on... and i'm relieved cos i really miss him terribly.IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted January 05, 2010 09:14 PM
I can only say. Love it's not easy  IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted January 05, 2010 09:51 PM
I think we will be ok.. we have DC/ceres/vertex all at 4' virgo and pluto at 5' virgo and juno cj uranus - so i think it will negate some of that uranus shock horror lolIP: Logged |
comica23
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posted January 05, 2010 10:53 PM
DD, Nemesis sounds like another version of Saturn lol~ I was reading about her in Wikipedia, and it said something about revenge or enemy, which got me a bit scared, coz I have some weird Nemesis aspects with my bf and friends! My Nemesis conjuncts my bf's Sun/Moon midpoint, while his Nemesis opposes mine. And then his Nemesis also opposes my Eros, and his draconic Nemesis is conjunct my draconic Lust. And then a friend of mine has Nemesis squaring my tropical Aries stellium, while my draconic Nemesis is right conjunct her tropical Moon. And with another friend, my Nemesis is right on his SN, while my draconic Nemesis opposes his Sun!IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted January 05, 2010 10:58 PM
yikesMy nemesis is cj his venus and trine his valentine
His nemesis is square my venus and opposing my valentine Why does that look so scary? Is it binding or painful,
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