posted July 21, 2017 06:08 PM            

This thread has had a PAGE turn--
Including some refs from first page.

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- http://www.lynnkoiner.com/astrology-articles/pre-birth-and-post-birth-eclipses

from Belage -
* Cafe astrology has a handy dandy ephemeris list of eclipses from 1940 to 2014
- http://www.cafeastrology.com/eclipsessolarlunar.html
Includes 'time' the eclipse event occurred.
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* Sabian Symbols (Rudhyar)
{remember to use WHOLE Degree}
e.g. degree is 17+ (=18 whole-degrees)
- http://www.mindfire.ca/An%20Astrological%20Mandala/An%20Astrological%20Mandal a%20-%20Contents.htm

* Sabian Symbols, expanded Rudhyar
- http://www.jamesburgess.com/list-of-sabians.html
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LL ref threads on the August 2017 eclipses--
~ Path of 3.21.17 North American Eclipse [NASA vid]
by LL-member Node, in LLC2.0 Forum
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum25/HTML/005458.html
~ Solar Eclipse Leo w/ asteroids
by LL Primarose220
- http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/238180.html
+ 8dec2019
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posted July 26, 2017 02:10 PM            

My Pre-LunaEclipse is 1' conj
Chiron.
Pre-SolEclipse is wide square my
AC.

I'm a bit confused as I didn't see
the sample chart. I'm to look at the planet
before or after (counter clockwise)? It is confusing for me.

If it's moving clockwise, Mars+IC are key to my LE.
Pluto is key to my SE. Mars might denote my last
passing was accidental or violence perhaps.

(The only one TotalEcl was the Post SolEcl)
Postnatal SE is .05 conj Karma.
Postnatal LE is .02 conj Euphrates(13863)

posted July 26, 2017 07:55 PM            

Clockwise, counter-clock.
Yes, you have it.

Chart-wheel is like an analog clockface.
(The 'sample' chart was missing.)

Confusion comes when you tend to think too hard. LOL. (*my hand is raised, pointer-finger blinking towards my own head*)

From the webinar I generally recall that with eclipses,
.. For Solar, NM eclipse, the most important spot IS the Sun-Moon degree conjunction (Solar NM eclipse) and where that degree is located inside the house it occurs in your chart.
.. For Lunar, FM eclipse, look at both the opposing houses involved, and the zodiac degree span it stimulated.

ASPECTS
The Conjunction, The Opposition.
The Square.
The Trine.

Consider objects/planets,etc that fall inside the span of 18 degrees as 'included' in a general loose way.... It is acceptable to include objects using the extra orb-width allowed between the luminary and the node.

Specifically, whatever contacts your own luminaries or planets, nodes, axis points, in a tighter and more direct way, will make the interpretation stronger.

Some astrologers include the major ASPECTS of the Event itself as part of the 'imprint' of the eclipse to include in your chart (even if you have no planet/points connected to aspects made in the sky of the eclipse event).
Make an overlay of eclipse event, and layer it to your own chart.

Also, if the eclipse happens on a major Fixed Star, then the energy of the star will further influence the flavor of the eclipse.

The energy of the event is different if it's a NorthNode Eclipse than a SouthNode Eclipse. To interpret those 'traditionally', your M/F "gender" matters as these may have an affect on the physical body itself.
.. A SouthNode-Lunar has a harsher influence on a male.
.. NN-Sun influence on important points for males was not as favorable either??
(oh my, hmmm. I'll have to review my notes on that... No promises.)

In the matter of Post-birth and Pre-birth Natal Eclipses?

I think the instructor said that the eclipses to look at are the ones that happened both directly-before, and directly-after, your birth. Your birthdate will be found sandwiched in-between these two eclipse dates-- pre- and post-.

posted July 27, 2017 08:45 AM            

quote:

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Originally posted by mirage29:

The energy is different if it was a NorthNode Eclipse, or a SouthNode. And to interpret those traditionally, the your gender mattered on how it would affect your body. A SouthNode-Lunar has a harsher interpretation if you are male. NN-Sun on important points for males was not as favorable either??

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This is really interesting - my pre-natal solar eclipse is in my first house, conjunct my South Node (I am a girl), opposite my Mars.

My good (male) friend has his PNSE in his seventh house, conjunct his North Node.

Is extra emphasis on the nodes implied by these? Would I find it harder to escape the south node with the PNSE on the south node, or is the whole nodal axis lit up in this case?

Interestingly, my pre-natal lunar eclipse is conjunct my Vertex (2.5 degrees or so) as well.

posted July 28, 2017 12:50 AM            

For a moment, when I saw what you wrote about your Vertex being in close orb to your PNLE, I recalled that mine is close too-- I wonder what the significance of that is (if any), that we both would have it. (Coincidence maybe?)

I wonder how many others do too?
(That was interesting!)

My Placements

LUNAR "What the Soul comes in to Learn"
'South Node' Prenatal Lunar Eclipse
sn-Prenatal Lunar Eclipse PNLE
PNLE in H8 Cancer at 17.21~28',
tightly conjunct Vesta Cancer 17.25 {dedication}
conjunct F.S. WASAT 17.53. {partnership, compromise}

I have my Vertex 24.53 Cancer H8
conjunct Uranus 25.01 and F.S.Procyon 25.10. ...
Ruler of Cancer is the moon--
Natal Moon Virgo 24.56 {sextile VX} in H(9)Leo,
Moon is near my MC in early Libra.
MC Libra trines Sun Gem.

Within orb 8 of the Vertex I have Jupiter Cancer 27+
(Jupiter is chart ruler for Sag Rising)
Jupiter is natural ruler of 9th where natal Moon is).

In Uranian branch of astrology my Meridian is 23+ Cancer.
(inbetween the PreNLE and Vertex-Uranus)

SOLAR
= Gift the Universe 'dusted' you with, and you agreed to give/teach to the world
'North Node' Prenatal Solar Eclipse
nn-PreNSE PNSE
December 25, 1954 Saturday
"Christmas Day" at 2:33 am EST
Capricorn 2.58 cj ecle Mercury 2.22 Cap,
ecle NN on F.S.Kaus

Equatorial Ascendant at birth 2.06 Cap H1sag
F.S.Polis

(music) My Grown Up Christmas Wish (Kelly Clarkson, lyrics) [4:44] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1TTnPdZOZI

(music) The Secret of Christmas (Johnny Mathis) [4:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXNobiMDpio

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I'm trying to "dig in" as hard as you all are. Good we have each other to bounce ideas.

Wouldn't it be cool if a scholarly professional in PrePost-E's came here to visit, answer questions, and comment?

As I've said, let's collect some info here.
Help each other to figure this out. *heart*

posted August 29, 2017 08:47 PM            

My biggest reason for replying to this thread
was to ask others if they drew up an event chart for this recent Sol-Eclipse? I did
and plan to use it to study the transits.
From what I understand it's active for 6months.
Also, I have the USA chart. It didn't take long for meyhem to break out once the darkness
of that event passed. .

Hopefully goodness will come from what
looks bleak and tumultuous ...

In helio the Earth/Moon was 29' Aqua
Sabian Symbol
(My favorite Aqu one)
"A butterfly emerging from a chrysalis"

DAO -the way or "path"
17-18 deg Pisces
"In A Gigantic Tent, Villagers Witness A Spectacular Performance"

The asteroid "Spirit",
28-29 deg Cancer
"A Greek Muse Weighing Newborn Twins In Golden Scales"