posted January 12, 2010 02:19 PM         

I am working my hardest to stay positive and focussed. It is a challenge not to take it 100% personal but I am feeling so attacked. In 7 years never did I have an issues with CPS.

There is no promise that I will get the baby back and I have been jumping through their hoops. I just wonder what is the point of it then. Every things will be decided on the parenting and psychological assessments. I had one done yesterday and the waiting game now is a nightmare.

Cyn

posted January 12, 2010 02:31 PM         

that's not right
not right at all

my mum is aries I know how combative they can get
my sis is aries moon and leo sun and she's got a downsyndrome boy. they are fighter

and my advice is fight until she's back home, period!

fight fight fight!

posted January 12, 2010 02:44 PM         

Maybe it would show up in your baby's 9th, but I'm not sure.

posted January 12, 2010 02:46 PM         

This is going to sound blunt, but I think you need to hear this. Pardon my Scorpio (with Mercury in Sag) bluntness. What I have noticed about you is that you have a habit of looking for things that could go wrong. I remember your thread before you gave birth where you were voicing concern about the astrological placements of the baby. You were already worrying for her before she was born. I remember you had also a difficult pregnancy. And now you are already looking for astrological explanations of her possibly being put up for adoption. Can you see a pattern here?

Though my heart goes out to you and I can imagine the pain you're going thru, I feel compelled to shake you up a bit so that you will realize that you are creating exactly the reality that you don't want. By focusing on things you are afraid of you are attracting them more and more.

Your case is not a lost cause. You can turn this around. But you need to let go of your fears, they are not doing you any good. Line up all of your energy on getting her back. And instead of conjuring up worst case scenarios, focus on the image of her back safely in your arms.

posted January 12, 2010 02:49 PM         

I'm working hard and doing the best that I can do. The caseworker's story seems to change a bit and new things are thrown in.

Thanks all

I don't mind blunt and too the point. I have been working on being positive - some of the supports that I have are not helpful cause they are so anti child welfare and tell me that there is a market for little babies and they easily swipe them from their families.

With the fears that come up I have had to examine them and find out where this belief came from and then usually I have a peaceful affirmation afterwards.

My intuition is guiding me and I and following it - I have some homework to do - information to get so I can fight these people. It is our health system that I have the greatest issues with and I can't help but think that the doctors lied to child services. The caseworker has been opening up a bit more about the concerns and I never heard so much bs in all my life. I don't believe what they say about me because I know deep down in side that I am a good parent who puts her children number one.

Despite what is going on this matter has not consumed me and I am able to function and get things done. I have gone through some very bad and rough storms in my life and survived it.

The CPS psychologist told me to consider the worst case scenerio and face it then deal with the fears and go from there....focus on from preventing it.......

Sigh.....oh well c'est la vie

posted January 12, 2010 03:00 PM         

Without going thru my horrible past, I had my twins taken from me at 6 months old by the state and not returned until they were almost 4 yrs old. They were made into an example as the state was being investigated at the time and so my twins were promised to the foster mom. They told her she would be able to adopt them. And so I know how tempting it is to want to give up. But could you live with yourself? I knew that I owed it to not just myself but to my babies to fight for them. I was only 21 at the time. And later we divorced.. but there was NO way I was giving up. And we got them back eventually. So for the sake of your baby FIGHT! Even if...God forbid.. you lose her, at least you can live with yourself knowing that you fought and did all you could.

If you want to talk, you can email me and I'd be happy to share more with you.

posted January 12, 2010 03:13 PM         

screw the docs, screw society, screw the world, Be selfish firstthen be altruistic, that's my only advice

posted January 12, 2010 03:14 PM         

screw the docs, screw society, screw the world, Be selfish firstthen be altruistic, that's my only advice

posted January 12, 2010 04:21 PM         

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Uranus is in my 5th at 11.27 Iibra and it opposes my Aries Sun and Mars in Cappy.

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Interesting.

Uranus in the 5th brings unpredictable changes in parenting and children matters. I know, I have it there too and for me it has manifested in me being a stepmom and never feeling quite settled and secure as a parent.

Because this aspect is opposite your sun and mars, you find yourself fighting people over parenting issues and having your child.

Looking at the transits ahead, it's going to be a long fight. T. Pluto at Cap came close to squaring your Uranus/Sun-Mars opposition in a T square, and Saturn travelling through your 5th house and moving closer to your Uranus indicates that you will have to work and put your affairs together in order for you to win this fight.

posted January 12, 2010 05:00 PM         

I know one thing - I am keeping away from ever being pregnant again! It has had such a huge cost in my life and I'm still reeling from the effects of it.

Now I'm focused more on my creative outlets like singing and performing stand up comedy. I can put more emotion into my songs and really belt it out through my diaprahm instead of singing through my throat.......

posted January 12, 2010 05:12 PM         

omg Cynnared, i'm so very sorry for you.

Tell me roughly where you live and i'm going to contact my wealthy friends and make them pay for a lawyer for you...

posted January 12, 2010 05:19 PM         

Deux, your honesty is truly refreshing; and i hope Cynnared adheres to your observation about her creating a negative environment for herself through subconscious programming

posted January 12, 2010 07:05 PM         

So far what has been reported to me that the visits have been positive - I've been taking charge and doing more. I just have to show and demonstrate my expertise on parenting and well shall see. I know I am a good worker and have confidence there. The caseworker has been positive as well......the psychologist has shown himself in a neutral light - he has given us some advice on matters as well and has told us of his experiences.

posted January 13, 2010 12:56 AM         

With everything else though you have to add all factors together: I have Jupiter H4 and I've had multiple "mothers" in my life, biological, adoptive, step, one grandmother raising me as her daughter for a time.

Personally I like H4 for this and the Moon, also the ruler of the Moon's sign and its aspects/placement. H3 too for early environment. I'd add in Uranus as well for abrupt separation, also Saturn, Pluto.

A close friend with Cancer rising, signifying a need to be close to/or natural tendency to identify with the mother, has her Moon (also Asc ruler) in Aquarius, squared to Uranus. Her mother left her while she was very young to be raised by her grandmother, while she traveled with her then partner as he was deployed overseas..she returned to the U.S. a few yrs later, had other children, but never came back for her daughter, visited her daughter as if she were a friend/sister and has maintained that type of relationship to her daughter and not looked back.

posted January 16, 2010 11:12 AM         

Basically they want the results of the assessment in order to pursue a permanent guardianship order to adopt the baby out.