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vesta
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posted January 14, 2010 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
I thought this was an interesting article!

What is the significance of the AP?

The AP represents a movement (cardinal) from an inner quality to an outer manifestation. It orients us towards the world at large—society, public events and all relationships propelled from the individual to the collective. Sometimes it represents a "spectacular out rush of energies... and involvement with the world at large" Celest Teal

The AP also seems to relate to meetings with those famous, respected or expert in their field.

AriesAs the first degree of Aries, this point suggest how our “will to be”, or sense of I AM, moves out from the subjective and into manifest reality.
CancerAs the first Degree of Cancer, this point suggest how our need to love and nurture, our sense of “I Feel”, moves from the subjective into the world.
LibraAs the first degree of Libra, this placement says, “I relate”, suggesting how our drive to interact with others in socially significant ways moves from our inner world and out towards other individuals.
CapricornAs the first degree of Capricorn, this placement says, “I produce”, suggesting how our urge to bring tangible results moves from “self” to society as a whole. Isabel Hickey would have said that it the AP is the initial point where the spirit incarnates, the starting point of the SELF. By house and aspect contact, the AP indicates how we project out into the public, meeting life in distinct ways that the collective recognizes, acknowledges (or judges) and remembers us by.


What does it mean if a planet or point conjuncts the AP?

Don McBroom calls the AP the “Power behind dominant traits and public projection. He says, “…the AP can be an indicator of an individual's Potential for Public Projection. Often this measurement was uncannily related to the person's claim to fame or for what they will be remembered. When there was direct contact between a specific Planet or Point (i.e. Ascendant or Midheaven) and the AP (within a two-degree orb), there was frequently a distinguishable relationship with the energies traditionally associated with that planet that was publicly observable in the individual.”

Read his article at: http://www.noeltyl.com/techniques/010130.html

When a planet or point conjuncts the AP the nature and energy drive of that planet has the added thrust or urge to express collectively. It may also represent what the public at large recognize most readily in us, or remember us for.

Sun-AP Can mean our energy, vitality and drive seeks to express through society. People see us for our solar qualities and we propel our creative drive into the collective. The famous individual.

Moon-AP Suggests that our inner world of feelings, reflections and intuition expresses in public ways, and these qualities are noticed by the collective. The famous psychic.

Mercury-AP Can mean our intellect, thoughts and ways of communicating capture the public eye. We are recognized as being witty, bright, mercurial, and clever. The famous writer.

Venus-AP Can mean our sensual, accommodating ability to connect and bond with others moves out into a greater social arena. People see us for our capricious, artistic and ingratiating qualities. The famous artist.

Eros-AP Suggests our passionate desire for erotic transformation is noticed by the collective. People see our potent energy as tantalizing or threatening, according to their own views. The famous courtesan.

Mars-AP Suggests our assertive, direct and action oriented qualities grab the attention of society. We are seen as commanding, raw and imposing. The famous warrior.

Jupiter-AP Can mean our leadership qualities, expansiveness, optimism and call for justice capture the attention of the collective. We are seen for our vision, immensity, and joviality. The famous world leader.

Saturn-AP Suggests our ability to build tangible results through persistent and sustained effort is highlighted by public acclaim. We are seen for our ambition, caution and pragmatic detail. The famous corporate director.

Chiron-AP suggests renown for our ability to teach, understand, strive for the impossible and restore compassion. We are seen as a healer for those who have lost faith or are in despair. The famous Guru.

Uranus-AP suggests our ability to make sudden changes, rebel against dogmatic convictions and break out of the safety zone is noticed by society. We are seen as surprising, inventive and inspiring. The famous revolutionary.

Neptune-AP The longing for the divine and the desire to merge with the collective unconscious is captured by the projection of society. We are seen as the public want to see us. The famous movie star.

Pluto-AP The ruthless drive for power and control is noticed socially as it wrestles with the need to plumb the depths of the unconscious mind. We are seen for our potent qualities, the dark hero who can be transformed. The famous eccentric.

Ascendant-AP Being known for personality traits and interactions in the world. Having famous friends!

Midheaven-AP Being known for social achievement through career, mission or profession. Working with famous people!

North Node-AP Being known for following the path to the future. Having a famous guide!

South Node-AP Being known for redeeming the path of the past. Being a guide to others.

http://www.falconastrology.com/aries_point.htm

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electricmind
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posted January 14, 2010 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for posting!
i've read this article before as i have Neptune at 0 Degrees Capricorn in my 12th house conjunct my ascendant.

i can definitely relate. I am one of those people whose antennae are super alert in public. I definitely tune right in. As I am an artist I'll let you know how taht "famous movie star" thing works out

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posted January 14, 2010 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
My CHIRON is exact cj my AP point.

I don't know if it's a hurtful point for chiron or not. Maybe it's karmic?

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taurus77
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posted January 14, 2010 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurus77     Edit/Delete Message
a very intresting topic!!im very curious to know where is my aries point??i think saturn
here is my chart'
http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?btyp=w2at&rs=3

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posted January 14, 2010 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Taurus, don't post a chart from ASTRO> it only shows the person who is looking's chart NOT YOURS

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posted January 14, 2010 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurus77     Edit/Delete Message
so how can i post my chart? i want to know my aries point :P

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posted January 14, 2010 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
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My Progressed MC is on Aries point now and it's interesting; my life is about to potentially change exactly as it is described above!!

Progressed mercury on 0' cancer.

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posted January 14, 2010 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message
Aries point is the 0 degree of all the cardinal signs. so its not an individual thing. its a definite point.

0 Aries
0 Cancer
0 Libra
0 Capricorn

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vesta
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posted January 14, 2010 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
My Natal Jupiter is conjunct AP

Jupiter-AP Can mean our leadership qualities, expansiveness, optimism and call for justice capture the attention of the collective. We are seen for our vision, immensity, and joviality. The famous world leader.

Aries As the first degree of Aries, this point suggest how our “will to be”, or sense of I AM, moves out from the subjective and into manifest reality.

Also I have taken notice of some Famous individuals who have planets conjunct AP

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posted January 14, 2010 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurus77     Edit/Delete Message
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what about now can you see it??i want my aries point :P :P :P

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posted January 14, 2010 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
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posted January 14, 2010 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
George Washington had POF and Saturn conjunct AP in Aries!

Saturn-AP Suggests our ability to build tangible results through persistent and sustained effort is highlighted by public acclaim. We are seen for our ambition, caution and pragmatic detail.

Martin Luther King had Uranus conjunct AP 3 degree in Aries!

Uranus-AP suggests our ability to make sudden changes, rebel against dogmatic convictions and break out of the safety zone is noticed by society. We are seen as surprising, inventive and inspiring. The famous revolutionary.

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posted January 14, 2010 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know if my Mars counts.. at 2 degrees Capricorn. Is that close enough?

And my Asc is either 29'59 Gemini or 0'0something in Cancer..

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Mars-AP Suggests our assertive, direct and action oriented qualities grab the attention of society. We are seen as commanding, raw and imposing. The famous warrior.

Ascendant-AP Being known for personality traits and interactions in the world. Having famous friends!


Hmm interesting. My ex is mildly famous. Occasionally I can be seen as imposing, but it really depends on the context. With friends I'm pretty laid back.

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posted January 14, 2010 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message
Vapor,

It may not be that you are assertive yet but there may come a time in life when that point is activated for you.


An interesting story is when I went to a medium who said he saw me as a spokesperson for a humanitarian organization. That does not sound like me at all and yet I have Jupiter conjunct AP (Jupiter- AP Can mean our leadership qualities, expansiveness, optimism and call for justice capture the attention of the collective. We are seen for our vision, immensity, and joviality. The famous world leader ) Who knows what the future will bring.


I bet the men mentioned above never thought they would become president, or famous leader but they had the potential and made it happen.

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posted January 14, 2010 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
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North Node-AP Being known for following the path to the future. Having a famous guide!

I like this.
It goes along nicely with NN @ 0 Aries also when you have your natal same as draconic.

This article is on time for me, too, since my Sun will progress to 0 Aries in early March.
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posted January 14, 2010 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
I have Venus at AP (and Saturn and Uranus square AP at 29 Sag)

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blue moon
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posted January 23, 2010 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
If you have an AP planet you will have experienced Pluto moving into Capricorn, Saturn moving into Libra (not over yet, this one) and coming up Uranus moving into Aries.

Expect major life changes.

My AP planet is the Moon. Behind it is Pluto, so the descriptions above about moving from the internal to the external feel particulary meaningful given the current transits. Thanks for putting them up.

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posted January 24, 2010 05:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
My Vesta and Sun-Venus mp are both on 1 Capricorn.

00 Aries falls in my 3rd house, 00 Libra in my 9th, 00 Cancer in my 7th and 00 Capricorn in my 1st.

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posted January 24, 2010 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
taurus77

Lets see if I can help.

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