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PeaceAngel
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posted January 15, 2010 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
How do they affect you?

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posted January 15, 2010 07:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
Horribly :P

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posted January 15, 2010 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
You said in another thread that you have the square, which prompted this thread, and got me researching that aspect. I have the conjunction which seems considerably easier than the square.

Square:
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/sun-square-ascendant.php

Conjunction: http://www.astrologyweekly.com/astrological-aspects/sun-conjunct-ascendant.php

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posted January 15, 2010 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/sunascendantaspects.html

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MsCandeh
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posted January 15, 2010 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
But seriously,

I don't come across how I feel, don't say what I mean (well I do, but it never comes out right!) and when I am telling the truth people look at me like I am lying, but if I lie (white lies only of course, and very rarely!) then I come across like I am telling the truth.
People judge me wrongly, not all the time, but sometimes. Over the years I have been accused of things I have never, would never ever think of doing. *sigh*
Astrology Weekly has a very accurate description.

I am just lucky my Aqua ASC is better at keeping distance in first meetings so as not to create mixed impressions, just friendly But until I feel totally comfortable with someone, it's a bit confusing.

I don't know if I am making any sense?

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posted January 15, 2010 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amphitrite     Edit/Delete Message
I have the sextile.. infectious sense of humour and topics to live up a gathering apparently

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posted January 15, 2010 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
PA - you beat me to the links! Do you have any Sun/ASC hard aspects? Edit: sorry I missed that you said you had the conjunction

I think this is one of the hardest I have had to deal with. I have to think A LOT about how I come across, unless I am at the comfortable stage with someone.

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posted January 15, 2010 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I have Aqua Moon so I understand about the Aqua distance, but that's a personal thing too. And it adds to the perception of others of you. I come off as very distant, because I have Uranus opposite the Sun & AC too. Aquarius helps you distance yourself and not really be so concerned about what others are thinking (about you), which is a huge influence of the AC-Sun aspects.

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posted January 15, 2010 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
I have Saturn sq Ac

This sums it all up neatly, especially the withdrawing inward comment

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Saturn Square Ascendant

You may have quite a bit of difficulty learning to relate to other people as friends or loved ones, even within your immediate family. This problem usually stems from the fact that you feel somehow unworthy of being loved or attended to. Certainly you are not incompetent, but you tend to feel that the demands of life, specifically those made by other people, are so high that you cannot live up to them.

Do not accept criticism as the main part of a relationship, for it is not. Mutual love, respect and reinforcement should be the main components of any relationship.

Some persons with this aspect, feeling that the outer world demands too much, withdraw from social contact by going inside themselves. Others feel that there is only a great void within, so they work furiously in the outer world of friends and other contacts to escape from that inner emptiness.


Also Moon Sq Ac

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Moon Square Ascendant

Your feelings are quite changeable, and they influence how you feel about people. You may find it very difficult to treat others the same way all the time. You believe that showing your feelings clearly to someone will hurt your relationship. This can make you feel very tense when you are with someone you like.

If your relationships with others do not go smoothly, you often withdraw into your own private world where you feel safe and secure, instead of fighting for your point of view. If you do this all the time, you won't have many friends, so make an effort to stand up for your rights and beliefs.

Beliefs that you learned while you were very young may have too much influence on the way you act toward others. Treat each day as a new experience.


EDIT*

I looked up my chart just now & saw that my Sun is thankfully just that bit too much out of orb to be in opposition to AC.

Thank God! I have enough on my natal plate, lol.

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posted January 15, 2010 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
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The same holds true for associates with whom you are in close contact for extended periods of time. People will appreciate you more if you let them make willing gestures to you. In that way, they can feel that they are the aggressors. It is better to attract them to you than to demand their submission.

It doesn't help with Mars conjunct MC in Scorpio!
I have an aggressive gentle nature... I have Sun, Venus and Moon in Venus-ruled signs and prefer harmony. I can get let-down easily though (which unfortunately shows) and am working on that though, to let things be What will be will be is my new mantra to deal with that.

Sun is square ASC exactly (22 Aqua, 22 Taurus)

Does anyone else with hard aspects have a difficult time with it? Have you figured out how to work with the energies?

Also, do you find that you have a very readable face??

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posted January 15, 2010 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
MsCandeh

I have Chiron on my AC so I feel really insecure about my appearance.

The only complaint I have about Sun-AC conjunction is that I can never really be a wallflower. Compared to how other Sun-AC aspects play out, that's not that big a deal.

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posted January 15, 2010 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe part of the problem now is that you doubt yourself so much that when you're speaking with someone you're showing that self-doubt on your face, which makes them doubt what you're saying too?

Maybe the thing for you is to just speak your truth and then let it be. You can't control how it's received by others, no matter how honestly or accurately you express yourself. Just believe in yourself.

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posted January 15, 2010 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
lol spanky! I am full of oppositions and a couple of squares... I can understand not wanting this one!

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posted January 15, 2010 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
PA

I think you hit the nail on the head. That is so true. I never really thought of it that way too...

I don't think I speak with much conviction even when I believe 100% what I am saying.

It's to the point where I will not reply on forums (esp with more controversial issues) because I am afraid of how I will be perceived. Then when I choose to 'speak up' I never feel like I have come across properly. lol *sigh*

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posted January 15, 2010 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spanky Butler     Edit/Delete Message
I feel you on this.

It sucks, there's no other way to say it.

I feel like I'm a conundrum within a quagmire. A freaking mess & while I may be 36 I still feel like the emotional equivalent of a teenager who knows nothing about herself.

I think I will be figuring me out beyond the point of death & still get no logical answer.

So I've decided that I am just going to accept 'me' as I am & who gives a rat's if anyone else likes it, I am what I am. By that statement did I give away that my pr Moon is in Aries?

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posted January 15, 2010 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
You probably have great conviction in yourself in your opinions/thoughts themselves, but when it comes to expressing them, doubt your ability to express them as articulately as you would like. I have this dynamic where I lose what I'm going to say and then all the words come back jumbled. But that's panic. Use the forums to practice. Take your time in your responses. Never mind what others think. Just state your truth and opinion and take the time to edit and re-edit until you're happy with what you've said - not concerning yourself with the responses of others - just do it for you - to practice your self expression and I promise you as the confidence from the threads builds, you'll carry that with you on a day-to-day and in-person basis.

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posted January 15, 2010 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
Spanky that's exactly what I have decided to do over the last year (taken a lot of soul searching!). I think that being true to yourself is the BEST thing anyone can do (unless you are a crazed maniac of some sorts lol)

PeaceAngel... what you wrote really speaks to me. Thank you! Yes, I have definite opinions on things, but like yourself they come out completely jumbled.

In my recent relationship, as soon as it comes to expressing emotions all that cmoes out is gobbeldygook. Being a Gemini he does not appreciate that. We get along on anything but emotional level (because that is where I feel most strongly, so therefore .. the more I feel something , the worse it comes out).

I just had a thought.

Sun square ASC will usually mean your Sun is conjunct either IC or MC. I have Sun conjunct IC which could 1. amplify why this can be such a troublesome aspect and 2. The Sun is conjunct an ANGLE so therefore the sense of self there will be especially strong with either the IC or MC (or DC in the case of opposition).

PeaceAngel - do you find that you come across exactly how you mean to, having Sun conj ASC? If so, do you find it harder to get a balance between your Sun/ASC and your IC (Since it's square the IC). Or maybe you do not have any planets conjunct the IC so you do not feel this as much?

I don't have any planets conjunct my ASC, but I have Sun square ASC and Mars square ASC (Sun opposition Mars) so a double whammy there and very difficult to deal with. I can accidentally come across as aggressive (I do things without thinking, like slam doors, but I honestly don't mean to and people interpret that as me being angry but I'm not, usually I am thinking happy thoughts ).

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posted January 15, 2010 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I would also interpret Sun conjunct IC as coming from the heart/core so that's deeply sincere.

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posted January 15, 2010 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
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PeaceAngel - do you find that you come across exactly how you mean to, having Sun conj ASC? If so, do you find it harder to get a balance between your Sun/ASC and your IC (Since it's square the IC). Or maybe you do not have any planets conjunct the IC so you do not feel this as much?

The only thing I aim for is that I have peace in myself about the way I've conducted myself with other people and that that's done with integrity and that I've expressed the thoughts and feelings that I wanted to as well as I could. That doesn't always happen. Sometimes there's just no opening for that and some days I can't string two words together. The Sun-AC conjunction is in Aries - and Mercury is in there as well - so I'm pretty straight to the point and say what I mean and mean what I say anyhow. I'm just truthful in my communications in general, so I don't doubt myself that way. I know I'm saying my truth and that I can't control how it's received, so I just focus on being at peace with myself about what I've said and how I've said it. I screw it up sometimes - and (try to) learn from it.

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posted January 15, 2010 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
Everyone has bad days too so maybe there is some funky Sun/ASC action happening to activate the Sun/ASC gobbeldygookieness

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I would also interpret Sun conjunct IC as coming from the heart/core so that's deeply sincere.

That's very true. The problem is that deep sincerity is not in harmony with the outer self/ASC. So it's sometimes misconstrued as being insincere, if you know what I mean?

I think Sun being conjunct any other angle in relation to the ASC would be easier to deal with than the IC.

My own issue is that as much as I love Aqua ASC, I love being different and quirky, it also makes it hard to fit in. I want the traiditional marriage, children, peaceful stable homelife but I can't stand routine. I have come to realise that no routine in your life is very hard. But at the same time routine absolutely terrifies me. I am very quirky thanks to my Aqua influence and offbeat sense of humour, and am unsure of when to show my true colours and who will accept that.

I love how you say "my truth". I think that's an excellent way to be.

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posted January 15, 2010 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
In which case, you can't expect to be understood by everyone, but just those who get you - so seek them out. Our placements are different, but essentially the same in effect. Your Aqua AC, my Aqua Moon. Uranus is on my DC so I like quirky partners, but it's in the 6th house of work and day-to-day life and like you, have zero ability at routine.

If you're quirky - that's who you are - and I think that's a beautiful way to be - it bring sunshine to the world. If you're like that though, you can't be concerned about other people criticising you (or being jealous of you - which is what I suspect happens with you). There's another thing that happens when you stand in your truth and just be who you are - other people who lack confidence see that in you and want a piece of it for themselves. So in finding your own self-acceptance, you inspire others to find theirs. Just be true to you. That's it.

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posted January 15, 2010 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
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Everyone has bad days too so maybe there is some funky Sun/ASC action happening to activate the Sun/ASC gobbeldygookieness

For me it's the effect of Aries. Foot in mouth disease.

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posted January 15, 2010 09:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message
MsCandeh, PeaceAngel,

so if you both cant stand routine....I'm curious, what do you do for work??

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posted January 15, 2010 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
I also think the signs the ASC and Sun occupy are very important to how the aspects place out too.

For example PA, you can never be a wallflower which is a result of Sun/ASC conjunction. But this is in Aries.. which is already a very out-there sign! Imagine how a Sun/ASC conjunction would play out in Pisces.

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posted January 15, 2010 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
And you know what? If people don't like you or don't get you - that's their problem. Like (and love) yourself.

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