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Topic: Transits vs. Solar Return
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leapinglemur14
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posted January 16, 2010 11:08 PM
 
which should you pay more attention to? Does one hold more ground than the other?IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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From: Sacramento,California
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posted January 16, 2010 11:24 PM
I actually believe that they are equally important. I would also include the lunar return. I strongly believe that it works too.
Raymond
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popcorn
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posted January 17, 2010 03:58 AM
I think it's intresting with lunar return. I've not follow it up in long time before but for me it looks like a good tool to read in every months. This months lunar return and solar return syncronice. When transit merk comes into 7 degree in capricorn it's in conj to my Solar returns moon and lunarreturns sun. It also trine my N merk/uran in virgo. I count something important will happend...
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popcorn
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posted January 17, 2010 04:21 AM
I know what' will happend  . When merk was in exact transit retro I get to know I get much money back. I have paid to much money in tax 2008. She say I will get it on my account next week.. 21 jan transit merk exact on my SR moon house 7 ,LR SUN house 8. I count the money will be on my account in exact time..IP: Logged |
MsCandeh
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From: Australia
Registered: Jul 2009
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posted January 17, 2010 04:31 AM
I think both as well. They are different and the same. Trasits are used to create a solar/lunar return - it's like it takes a snapshot of the planet/angle placements at the time your moon return to its natal position - which summarises how that year/month will turn out.
I use transits more with specific events (though quite often I will draw up a chart of the time so I can get more accurate comparisons) and quite often to monitor where planets are playing out in my chart or others ... as transits usually have effects lasting for more than a few seconds. I would use snapshots in time for events and predictive astrology. So the reason I think they are equally as important is because I use them for totally different purposes IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted January 17, 2010 04:40 AM
Ms Candec. The most of us use it as you do also me to but it's also intresting to see suddenly events. It was a big problem to me to lose so much money and I haven't know if I will get my money back and so on. That's not small money like one dollar... There are involved large sumIP: Logged |
leapinglemur14
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From: NY
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 17, 2010 08:48 PM
but wouldnt the transit be more valid since its more specific? And the solar is over a year? Or should we overlay them? Combine them in some way? IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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From: Sacramento,California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 17, 2010 08:58 PM
what do you mean by more specific?I am confused? You can compare the natal to the solar return: comparing natal planets,points in conjunction to the solar return planets,points.
you can also check conjunction transits to the solar return
you can also progress the solar return The Solar Return can be very specific if you focus on the aspects, and add additional things for finetuning like asteroids,centaurs,midpoints I don't just check the ecliptic longitude which is the regular chart, but I also check the equatorial coordinates that astronomers use. Right Ascension which is longitude and Declinations which is latitude. the way I do Astrology now without zodiac signs and houses, I will check out the planetary nodes (both geocentric and heliocentric). I will check out the planetary nodes in geocentric chart. Then compare the geocentric chart's planets,points to the heliocentric chart's planetary nodes. I do that in both ecliptic longitude (the regular chart) and Right Ascension (equatorial longitude). I use no more than 2 degree orb for planetary nodes. I would check the Solar Return chart's planets,points in conjunction with the natal planetary nodes (geocentric and heliocentric) in both Ecliptic longitude and Right Ascension. I use no more than 1 degree orb. I do the same with lunar return combining lunar returns with the solar return can be a good for finding out stuff and tracking events.
Raymond
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popcorn
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posted January 17, 2010 09:31 PM
I am impressed to se SR and LR work through transit. For me it looks like I can predict my life and events more exact from transit to SR/LR. Transit to my natal give me more diffuse ide about some kind of events. When it exact will happend can only be a guess.IP: Logged |
leapinglemur14
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From: NY
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 21, 2010 05:18 AM
idk glaucus...that's just waaaaaaaaaaaay too much work for me. going into that much detail would drive me nuts. I was just looking for a simple way to "predict" things more accurately...maybe a better way to ask would be maybe looking at the transits in relation to the SR or vise versa...which one? any ideas? IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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From: Sacramento,California
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posted January 21, 2010 08:37 PM
well
I keep the orbs smallI'd look at natal conjunctions to the solar return track the conjunctions of the transiting Sun,Mercury,Venus,Mars to planets,points in the Solar return if I was to do it in a simple way just depends on what makes an astrologer feels comfortable. There is so much diversity in astrology when it comes to systems,techniques,and methods, and so I don't dare say what's accurate nor inaccurate. What's accurate to one person may be inaccurate to another person and vice versa. Raymond ------------------
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