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posted January 18, 2010 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The line of 22-25 Capricorn to 22-25 Cancer?

1. The deadliest ever earthquake in Shaanxi on 23 Jan 1556 has that day's Draconic Saturn conj 24 Capricorn.

2. Tsuami of 26th December 2004 has an exact Chiron opp Saturn in 25 Cap to 25 Cancer.

3. Haiti's killer earthquake 13th Jan 2010 matched a Solar Eclipse on 25 Capricorn.

4. 893 23rd March in Iran: Dr Pluto is on 24 Cancer. True Node that day was 22 Capricorn, eerily close to Haiti's quake.

5. Interesting point: The Great Tangshan Earthquake of 28 July 1976 DID NOT have anything in the 25 Cap-Cancer axis but the Ascendant of the dreadful quake was 11.54 Cancer. Conjunt to the Ascendant was Asteroid TANGSHAN....

6. Quetta 1935 May 31st: True Node 22.5 Capricorn. Pluto 24.3 Cancer!

7. Nov 1, 1755 Lisbon in Portugal:
KARMA 25 Cancer opp Saturn 23 Capricorn.

8. Iran 20 June 1990: Saturn conj POSEIDON in 24 Capricorn.

I have to do more research, but I think there is more than sufficient evidence.

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posted January 18, 2010 03:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello IQ,

It seems like a strong observation. I have a significant T-Square involved with 25 degrees Cardinal and I'm not quite sure how this eclipse will manifest for me, but I'm sure I'll find out when Mars or Saturn triggers it. Mars is already a part of the T-Square.

If you count asteroid "Gold", I have that at 25 Capricorn, that creates a Grand Square for me. We'll see what happens, I'll be praying that God helps me to use the energy in the most positive way possible.

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posted January 18, 2010 04:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That is very interesting, and even downright scary.

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posted January 18, 2010 04:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Geocosmic,
Since you are Astrologically aware, it wont be too difficult to tackle the Grand Cross.
I would pay attention to transits on the Eclipse Point from today.

Notably:
Sun on 25 Aries this year should create a major event.
Every month Moon conj 25 Capricorn can create a minor event.
In Dec 2012, Mars will be conjunct 25 Capricorn, that would be very important.

The deadliest event for our generation could actually occur when Pluto conjuncts 25 Capricorn, than in 2012.

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posted January 18, 2010 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have dr venus on 25 aries, do you think it would affect me as well?

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posted January 18, 2010 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for braveheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know if this helps your research, IQ. The degrees are a bit early.


The city of Newcastle, which is on the north coast of NSW, suffered an earthquake on Dec 28, 1989 @ 10.27am.

Mercury is 25 Cap
Vertex is 19 Cap
Saturn 15 Cap opposing Chiron 14 Cancer
Sun is 6 Cap, Moon is 4 Cap
Uranus 5 Cap
Neptune 11 Cap
Jupiter 5 Cancer

edit: If I do a draconic chart for this event Mars 19 Cap is conjunct MC 15 Cap
also DR chiron is 27 Leo, is that conjunct regulus?

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posted January 18, 2010 05:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the DRACO Pluto was on 25 Cap on 25th november 2007.

I wonder how Draco Transits difer from tropical ones.

EDIT: There was an earthquake on Martinique on 29th november, and one other on 20th december that year.

but of course there happen several earthquake every year.

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posted January 18, 2010 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YIKES!!

Geo, me too. Solar eclipse made a grand cross for me with natal AND progressed chart.
In natal I have:
amor 25' Aries
valentine 22' cancer
ceres 27' libra

can't check rest as on iPhone

what is the sabian for 25' Capricorn? Anyone checked it out?

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posted January 18, 2010 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for braveheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

IQ

Melbourne, Australia was hit by an earthquake, March 6, 2009 @ 8.55 pm.

Victoria, the state in which Melbourne is the capital is 25 Cancer
Moon 13 Can conjunct (loosely?) MC 7 Can
Pluto 3 Cap conjunct IC 7 Cap

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posted January 18, 2010 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow that's some good observing iQ. I think you're onto something.

Lara the sabian symbols for 22 - 25 Cap:

22-23 deg Capricorn

A Soldier Receiving Two Awards For Bravery In Combat

23-24 deg Capricorn

A Woman Entering A Convent

24-25 deg Capricorn

A Store Filled With Precious Oriental Rugs

25-26 deg Capricorn

A Nature Sprit Dancing In The Iridescent Mist Of A Waterfall


And for 22 - 25 Cancer:

22-23 deg Cancer

The Meeting Of A Literary Society

23-24 deg Cancer

A Woman And Two Men Castaways On A Small Island Of The South Seas

24-25 deg Cancer

A Willful Man Is Overshadowed By A Descent Of Superior Power

25-26 deg Cancer

Guests Are Reading In The Library Of A Luxurious Home

I don't really have anything in the late caridinal sign degrees except in Aries.
Merc at 28 Aries but I don't think that's close enough?

Ceres, Pholus, Hera at 22, 23 and 24 Aries respectively, but I can't imagine that means much in this respect.

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posted January 18, 2010 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deux*Antares     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting, IQ!

Philippine Earthquake 7.7 on the Richter Scale

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posted January 18, 2010 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmm interetsing about the Boxing Day Tsunami.

Chiron at 25 Cap: A Nature Sprit Dancing In The Iridescent Mist Of A Waterfall

Saturn at 24 Can: Guests Are Reading In The Library Of A Luxurious Home

Water and Luxury. A lot of resorts were destroyed. But I do read these a bit too literally than they are probably intended iQ .. do you have any sabian insights for this axis?


I also find it interesting that its running on the antiscia axis degrees. (cap - cancer axis).

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posted January 18, 2010 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Point of interest

1999 Moore OK tornado:
DR Vertex 22 Cancer, House 8. DR Pluto 22 Capricorn, sitting on the anti-Vertex.

I am studying this chart in detail between DR and geocentric.

The DR ASC (10 Gemini) is conjunct the geocentric Vertex to the degree. Sabian: Newly Opened Lands Offer The Pioneer New Opportunities For Experience. I'll post more in another thread

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posted January 18, 2010 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
10 Gemini is not only my SN , but also the antiscion / contrascion of 20 Cancer-Capricorn.

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posted January 18, 2010 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is too! Wonder what it means conj your SN?


I looked up another chart for the first (and last so far) EF5 since the Fujita scale was "enhanced". This happened on 4 May 2007 in Greensburg, Kansas.
DR ASC 16 Sagittarius .. antiscia 14 Capricorn.
The town's DR name is located at 17 Gemini (13 Cancer antiscia). DR Pluto at 14 Capricorn (conjunct DR ASC antiscia point!)
opposite DR Venus at 12 Cancer (conjucnt DR name antiscia point). Geocentric Vertex at 16 Cancer in the 8th house.

Eris (Aries) trine Jupiter (Sag) by 2.5 deg.

Moore, OK tornado had Jupiter applying conjunct Eris at 18/19 Aries respectively.

The Haiti earthquake had Eris Septile Jupiter. Septile is a 7th Harmonic aspect. Here's a description of the aspect taken from Wiki: The septile (abrv. Sep) is an angle of 51.428571, or approximately 5125'43", one-seventh of the circle of the zodiac. It is supposed to be aspected to have irrational relations between its constituent components but confer the hidden underlying nature and deeper destiny of them

Eris was the Goddess of Strife in Greek mythology.

The 2004 Tsunami had Jupiter in applying opposition to Eris by 3 degrees. Keeping in mind how slow Eris is in comparison to Jupiter (like the Moon compared to Pluto).

It seems Gemini/Sag seem to figure prominently in the two tornado studies I have started And their significant antiscia points are located on the Cancer/Capricorn axis.

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posted January 18, 2010 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, 1999 was an extremely important time for me, emotionally, spiritually but also in terms of practical life. There was also a great loss this year, as my maternal grandfather died.

So these placements, if put in my chart, of course will signify some personal developments or events, even though I luckily did not experience an earthquake back then.

Interestingly this tornado chart definitely links to my chart, which only means that I was sensitive to this timequality I guess.

My Vertex is on 21 Cancer, my Sun-Moon-mp is on 21 Capricorn, my Destinn is on 23 Cancer and my Eros is on 21 Cancer.


Your research seems to confirm something I have long suspected; that we definitely underestimate the antiscia / contrascia axis.

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posted January 18, 2010 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Node     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting that Pluto IQ, on Jan 12 2020 we have->

29 Aqua is a player again, and as a singleton. I am still looking at the ephemeris. American Samoa is random by the way.

Here is a relationship chart...there is much to think about.

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posted January 18, 2010 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD I've always thought the antiscia axis was important and I can't believe I forgot it until you pointed it out!

Interestingly for the 10 April 1979 "Terrible Tuesday" Wichita Falls TX tornados, Jupiter was Squine(105) (close to biseptile which is 102.5) Eris. I wish more was written on squine aspects because I have found 105 deg aspects to be significant, well for me anyway.

Tomorrow I'll see if I can draw up a chart and see where significant points lie. The only thing I can see at the moment is Jupiter at 29 Cancer.I have a feeling (from memory) the big tornado happened around 10:30 in the morning which would make the ASC in Gemini. Funny that!

Node, interesting to see the chart comparisons!
Moon and Mars both in fire signs in both charts... Moon seems to be quite heavy in the 1st chart... Haiti chart Saturn AND Mars seemed to be the heavy planets (aspecting lots of others... taking the weight of all of that... I dont know what I'm saying really, it just "feels" that way ) Uranus and Mars are in quincunx signs in both charts.

That may be a good week to stay inside!

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posted January 18, 2010 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The deadliest event for our generation could actually occur when Pluto conjuncts 25 Capricorn, than in 2012.

Um, IQ, wouldn't that be the USA's Pluto return?

By the way, this is a great and informative thread. Thanks for starting it.

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posted January 18, 2010 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sometimes, astrology is kinda scary. >_<

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posted January 18, 2010 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ
http://tomkenyon.com/haiti-and-the-chaotic-node

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posted January 19, 2010 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Lara. That page could explain the very painful sinus and sleep deprivation for me this week.

Belage, USA's Pluto Return is very important.
If American Karma is balanced with global positive work [especially to undo the BUsh Era damage], then the dreadful Yellowstone Caldera will not explode during the Pluto Return. [Many doomsayers want it to explode... they have no idea of the consequences]

Thanks for additional info Braveheart and Mscandeh. I have been studying only devastating quakes with heavy death tolls. I dont think this axis will be relevant for all types of quakes or other disasters. For minor quakes, we may have to study other axis lines or aspects.

And applying the Microcosm = Macrocosm law, an external earthquake for a nation could be mapped to internal earthquakes of emotions/relationships/unreleased circumstances in our lives.


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posted January 19, 2010 04:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,

I agree with you. Not every minor earthquake will have that astrological signature, only those which will be globally influental and destructive.

"And applying the Microcosm = Macrocosm law, an external earthquake for a nation could be mapped to internal earthquakes of emotions/relationships/unreleased circumstances in our lives."
Absolutely agree.
That was what I was trying to hint at when I related this other earthquake chart back to my personal chart.


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posted January 19, 2010 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi DD,
Yes, you assessed the microcosm-macrocosm effect correctly.
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Your research seems to confirm something I have long suspected; that we definitely underestimate the antiscia / contrascia axis.
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I have to re-look this Antiscia Axis myself.
See, 0 Cancer to 0 Capricorn is the Solstice Axis.

When in the Sidereal Zodiac will it be 0 Cancer to 0 Capricorn?
In Tropical 24 Cancer to 24 Capricorn....

I must find one starting point for mapping Latitude and Longitude of any nation to the Ecliptic Plane, and we can then pinpoint the next big seismic event. For now Asteroids are the only clue as seen in Asteroid TANGSHAN.

In one deadly event, Asteroid VULCANO was on 25 Capricorn...

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posted January 19, 2010 08:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"See, 0 Cancer to 0 Capricorn is the Solstice Axis.
When in the Sidereal Zodiac will it be 0 Cancer to 0 Capricorn?
In Tropical 24 Cancer to 24 Capricorn...."

Yes, this is the solstice axis. But I always thought it was related to tropical zodiac? Am I mistaken?

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