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DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted January 25, 2010 06:55 AM
hi!Here it is,that table you asked. 1. Twin Flames 2. True Love Relationship Soulmates 3. Karmic Soulmates "owing" love/care 4. Karmic Soulmates who owe tough lessons 5. Soulmates meant to be just friends who guide each other 6. Not soulmates at all but just met at the wrong astrological time and got into a difficult relationship that has grown on you both.
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eskimono Knowflake Posts: 810 From: uk Registered: Dec 2009
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posted January 25, 2010 08:00 AM
How do you figure out which one it is that you are seeing/experiencing?IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted January 25, 2010 08:15 AM
first fow how you feel in the relationship,and torwards the parnter.then..if you want to confirm,you study your aspects together. For me,the persons sho helped me most were IQ and DD. IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 25, 2010 09:22 AM
Thank you, Diandra! X3 I remember seeing this before, but couldn't remember where this was.IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4652 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 25, 2010 11:07 AM
Thanks for posting this, I will post an approximate way to easily categorize.None of this works effectively when the date of birth gap is less than 40 days. 1. Twin Flames Will have 3 or more than 3 Soulmate Pair Asteroid aspects in Synastry. Soulmate Pairs: PSYCHE,EROS ISIS,OSIRIS PROSERPINA/PERSEPHONE, Pluto HERA,ZEUS INNANEN,ADONIS JUNO, Jupiter KAALI,SIVA Sun-Moon will aspect. Moons will aspect. Ascendants will aspect directly or link through a common Fate Object like Saturn, KARMA, North Node, MOIRA, FORTUNA or TYCHE. Asteroid VALENTINE will be harmoniously aspected directly or through a link object of love/togetherness: AMOR, APHRODITE, CUPIDO, EROS, JUNO, ANGEL, BODA, UNION. There will be atleast one very exact double whammy of a love object. There will be atleast one very exact double whammy of a fate object. Not all of the above HAS TO EXIST exactly if years and years of dreams/synchronicities already point to the Twin Flame. 2. True Love Relationship Soulmates: Will have plenty of the above, including Asc aspects but there will be the odd harsh Saturn aspect. May not have more than one double whammy. Atleast 2 Soulmate Pairs will aspect. 3. Soulmates owing love debts: Will have Ascendant Aspects to love and fate objects. Will have far too many love object aspects as compared to fate object aspects. Atleast one soulmate pair aspect will exist. Asteroid VALENTINE or AMOR or EROS or JUNO will be strong. 4. Soulmates owing harsh lessons: Will have Ascendant Aspects to love and fate objects. Will have far too many fate object aspects as compared to love object aspects. The love object aspects will be largely harsh. Atleast one soulmate pair aspect will exist, and it will be a harsh aspect. Asteroid KARMA, NN, Saturn will be very strong. 5. Soulmate friends/teachers Ascendant aspects or exact Moon aspects will exist. Suns will be harmonious. There may be good Soulmate Pair aspects in draconic chart, and possibly just one in the natals. There will be exact aspects involving Sun, Jupiter, Neptune, AMOR, Pluto, Chiron, ANGEL and SPIRIT. ------------------ Soul Mate Love Calculator http://tamsoft.co.in/articles.html Readings IP: Logged |
eskimono Knowflake Posts: 810 From: uk Registered: Dec 2009
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posted January 25, 2010 12:18 PM
I don't want to hijack this thread - I am trying to learn some LL manners!iQ - would you mind taking a look at my post on this forum 'can someone help with these charts'? I am thinking 4)? I hope you can help. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted January 25, 2010 12:25 PM
you´re welcome IQdo you think that a gap between 85 days,is under this table? the orb is about 3ºmax,right? and the aspects you talk are the major ones? does the indications include draco,or it is only tropical? cause when i saw aspects beteen John and his ex.who you said she was SM but a karmic,they were born 85 days apart,but you said that as they were born so close,the aspects couldnt be counted. they shared: - isis/osiris cj (his osiris/isis cj her osiris 0º) - psyche/Eros cj 5º - juno/jup sextile - no kaali/siva - no pluto/properp/perseph - his Hera semisquare her Zeus - no sun/moon major aspect - moons sextile - asc+s quindecile - asc of J´s skuare her jup/Pl/karma/angel. - asc of Her´s skuare his moon/alma.cj his boda and trine his amor - saturn of J´s kikx her valentine,opose angel and karma of hers - saturn of hers opose hs mc - his NN cj hers sun/nn/amor --his NN skuare her mars/fortuna and semisk tyche - her NN sk his merc/MC and kikx alma -his karma cj her boda,sextile her amor/union - her karma opose his saturn/pluto.skuare his asc.cj his fortuna and kikx his Tyche. - his Valentine opose her moon,skuare her union and Psyche.sextile her fortuna.trine her saturn,mars and cj her venus. - her valentine square his moon(dw).kikx his saturn and cupid.skuare his union(dw).trine her tyche.trine his venus(dw).skuare his kaali and opose his siva. they have 3 DW of valentine/venus,valent/moon,valent/union,two of them harsh aspects. do you think they were karmic sm who owed love debts or hars lessons?
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comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 25, 2010 04:32 PM
iQ, so the difference between Twin Flames and True Relationship Soulmates is that TRS has many aspects you listed for TFs but not all of them, and has the odd harsh Saturn aspect, right? (by the way, what is the odd harsh Saturn aspect?)Also, the difference between TF/TRS and Karmic Soulmates is that TF/TRS has plenty conjunctions/soft aspects (with only few or no squares), while KS has harsh aspects mostly (squares) with only few soft aspects, right? (since TF/TRS are supposed to be happy, while KS are supposed to work the karmic issues out) IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2010 04:25 AM
I wonder, what does it mean if there are several soulmate pair aspects, but they are mainly square and opposition? or if the orbs are pretty wide (around 3 degrees)? And what about the quinkunx?IP: Logged |
Agent_009 Knowflake Posts: 576 From: Planet Shining Registered: May 2009
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posted January 26, 2010 05:05 AM
What if you have a double whammy of Venus cj the other person's name?? is that considered love object??IP: Logged |
iQ Moderator Posts: 4652 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2010 08:29 AM
Hi Diandra, You are spot on target, they were Soulmates for sharing lessons.DD wrote: << I wonder, what does it mean if there are several soulmate pair aspects, but they are mainly square and opposition? or if the orbs are pretty wide (around 3 degrees)? And what about the quinkunx? >> These are twin flames who are not ready to merge. Quincunx should be treated like a mildly harsh aspect that can quickly become a positive aspect by having more empathy. Hi Agent009, This can be considered like a Love Object "Venus" conjuncting a uniqely fate object "Name Asteroid". It is very harmonious. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2010 08:43 AM
IQ,that was my idea, too. That the harsh aspects don`t negate the connection, but that they might indicate that the people are not ready for their union yet. Thanks for the confirmation. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2010 08:55 AM
I am going to look at four synastries here; since it is much to look at I will do it step by step.I am considering the quinkunx only in the soulmate pair aspects. But I will include the antiscion and contrascion. I will use an orb of 3 degrees for conjunction, opposition, trine and square. And an orb of 2 degrees for sextile, quinkunx and antiscion / contrascion. 1. S o u l m a t e p a i r s
David
d i r e c t aspects (his OSIRIS opposite her ISIS (4.0)) his INANNEN square her ADONIS (1.1) his ADONIS quinkunx her INANNEN (1.1) his JUPITER sextile her JUNO (0.2) l i n k e d aspects: his SATURN square her JUNO (0.2) her SATURN opposite his JUNO (0.2) his MOIRA conjunct her OSIRIS (2.3) her MOIRA square his ISIS (1.2) his TYCHE sextile her EROS (2.3) her TYCHE conjunct his PSYCHE (0.3) Ferris
d i r e c t aspects his PROSERPINA trine her PLUTO (1.0) his PERSEPHONE opposite her PLUTO (0.4) his ADONIS trine her INNANEN (1.2) his HERA antiscion her ZEUS (0.4) l i n k e d aspects
his SATURN conjunct her HERA (0.4) her SATURN opposite his ZEUS (2.5) his FORTUNA square her JUNO (0.4) her FORTUNA conjunct his JUPITER (1.2) Holger
his PROSERPINA trine her PLUTO (1.2) his PLUTO square her PROSERPINA (0.3) his ZEUS conjunct her HERA (1.4) (his JUNO widely quinkunx her JUPITER (2.2)) l i n k e d aspects
his SATURN trine her EROS (2.3) her SATURN sextile his PSYCHE (1.2) Bruno d i r e c t aspects
his PROSERPINA quinkunx her PLUTO (1.1) his PERSEPHONE square her PLUTO (2.3) (( his pLUTO trine her PROSERPINA (3.4))) his JUPITER trine her JUNO (3.0) his KAALI trine her SIVA (2.5) l i n k e d aspects
his KARMA trine her OSIRIS (2.1) her KARMA quinkunx his ISIS (1.5) his TYCHE sextile her OSIRIS (1.1) her TYCHE conjunct his ISIS (3.5) his KARMA square her INNANEN (2.0) her KARMA quinkunx his ADONIS (0.1) his KARMA opposite her JUNO (1.1) her KARMA quinkunx his JUNO (0.4) IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 26, 2010 09:00 AM
I have these:Direct aspects His PLUTO trine my PROSERPINA 5 points His ISIS trine my OSIRIS 5 points His SIVA quincunx my KAALI 5 points Linked aspects his PERSEPHONE sq my KARMA (1) and my PERSEPHONE sq his KARMA (3) his PROSERPINA trine my SATURN/NN and his NN opp my PLUTO (3) his PROSERPINA trine my SATURN/NN (2) and his NN opp my PLUTO (3)
Which category do they fit into please? IQ? DD? Diandra?
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2010 09:08 AM
2. C o r e a s p e c t s: SUN, MOON and ASC to each other David his MOON sextile her SUN (2.0) his ASC conjunct her ASC (2.1) both MOONS in Airsign Ferris
both SUNS in fire signs his SUN Sextile her MOON (0.1) his MOON square her MOON (2.2) Holger (((his Sun very widely conjunct her Sun 4.2))) his MOON trine her SUN (2.4) both ASC`s signs in fire Bruno his SUN square her SUN (2.3) both MOONS in Aquarius his ASC square her SUN (1.5) NOw to the fated and love objects; I grouped them like this: fated: Saturn, NN, Karma, Fortuna, Tyche, Moira love: Valentine, Amor, Juno, Eros, Aphrodite, Cupido 3. F a t e d / L o v e o b j e c t s to c o r e o b j e c t s David his SATURN trine her MOON (1.3) (his FORTUNA widely sextile her SUN (2.2)) her NN conjunct his ASC (0.5) his CUPIDO conjunct her ASC (0.2) her EROS antiscion his ASC (0.1) Ferris
his NN opposite her MOON (1.0) his MOIRA conjunct her MOON (1.0) his FORTUNA sextile her MOON (0.3) her SATURN Square his SUN (0.0) (her SATURN widely sextile his MOON 2.2)) her KARMA sextile his SUN )0.4) his CUPIDO square her SUN (1.4) his EROS trine her ASC (0.0) her CUPIDO trine his SUN (3.0) her EROS Sextile his MOON (1.4)
Holger
his SATURN Square her SUN (2.2) his NN square her MOON (1.4) his TYCHE conjunct her ASC (1.4) her FORTUNA sextile his SUN (1.0) her FORTUNA antiscion his MOON (0.2) no love objects to Sun, Moon, ASC Bruno his KARMA square her ASC (3.0) his TYCHE Square her ASC (0.2) his AMOR trine her SUN (1.4) (his CUPIDO opposite her MOON 3.1) his JUNO square her MOON (0.5) (her AMOR sextile his MOON (2.3) her VALENTINE Trine his SUN (0.5) her VALENTINE Sextile his ASC (0.1) her VALENTUNE antiscion his MOON (0.0)
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2010 09:18 AM
Lara,to see into which category they fit, you would have to list all the aspects, I guess. It is only a piece of the picture, even though an intriguing one. IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 26, 2010 09:20 AM
oh ok his AC trine my AMOR 2 points my SUN trine his JUNO 2 points my MOON trine his AMOR 2 points his AC quincunx my AMOR 1 point 7 his VENUS trine my EROS 1 point my VENUS trine his AMOR 1 point 2 my SUN cj his SATURN 3 points my MOON cj his DESTINN 3 points his AC trine my SATURN 1 point his AC trine my NN 1 point his AC trine my TYCHE 1 point his SUN opp my DESTINN 1 point 10 his VENUS quincunx my KARMA 1 point his PLUTO quincunx my SATURN 1 point his PLUTO quincunx my NN 1 point his PLUTO quincunx my TYCHE 1 point my VENUS cj his DESTINN 2 points my PLUTO quincunx his DESTINN 1 point my PLUTO opp his NN 1 point 8 his NN trine my VALENTINE 1 point his SATURN opp my JUNO 1 point my TYCHE trine his AMOR 1 point my FORTUNA opp his JUNO 1 point 4 his SATURN opp my KARMA 1 point his DESTINN cj my SATURN 3 point his DESTINN cj my NN 3 point his AMOR trine my AMOR 2 points 9 his VENUS AIR my APHRODITE 1 point His EROS AIR my APHRODITE 1 point My MARS EARTH his JUNO 1 poiint My PLUTO earth his JUNO 1 point My EROS AIR his VENUS 1 point My EROS air his EROS 1 point 6 His LUST trine my VALENTINE 1 point My LUST trine his MARS 1 point His NEPTUNE trine my VALENTINE 1 point My NEPTUNE conjunct his LUST 2 points 5 His PLUTO trine my PROSERPINA 5 points His ISIS trine my OSIRIS 5 points His SIVA quincunx my KAALI 5 points 15 total 66 points IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 26, 2010 09:29 AM
i forgot the AC aspects to qualify... TYCHE trine my AC / tyche trine his AC NN trine his AC ANGEL cj my ANGEL AC/DC cj IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2010 09:32 AM
4. F A T E D - F A T E D and L O V E to L O V E David
his SATURN conjunct her KARMA (0.3) his NN opposite her SATURN (0.0) his MOIRA sextile her TYCHE (0.0) his FORTUNA trine her FORTUNA (3.0)
his AMOR opposite her CUPIDO )3.0) his CUPIDO antiscion her EROS (1.4) hisEROS trine her EROS (1.0) his JUNO conjunct her AMOR (0.0)
Ferris his SATURN sextile her NN (0.2) his SATURN Square her TYCHE (0.4) his KARMA Opposite her TYCHE§ (2.4) his NN sextile her KARMA (0.0) his NN square her MOIRA (2.0) his NN antiscion her MOIRA (0.0) his MOIRA Trine her KARMA (2.0) his MORIA antiscion her MOIRA (2.0) his MOIRA antiscion her TYCHE (1.4) his FORTUNA opposite her KARMA (1.3) his TYCHE trine her FORTUNA (0.1) his AMOR conjunct her JUNO (0.4) his AMOR antiscion her APHRODITE (0.5) his JUNO square her CUPIDO (1.3) his VALENTINE Opposite her VALENTINE (2.4)
Holger
his NN sextile her KARMA (1.3) his NN opposite her MOIRA (1.2) his AMOR conjunct her AMOR (1.2) his APHRODITE conjunct her JUNO (3.1) his CUPIDO opposite her EROS (3.1) his JUNO sextile her APHRODITE (0.3) his VALENTINE oppospite her APHRODITE (0.5) his VALENTINE antiscion her JUNO (0.4) Bruno his KARMA square her NN (0.0) his KARMA sextile her TYCHE (0.2) his NN sextile her FORTUNA (0.1) his CUPIDO conjunct her CUPIDO (0.2) his JUNO square her CUPIDO (2.0) his JUNO trine her JUNO (1.0) his EROS Trine her VALENTINE (1.3) his VALENTINE sextile her AMOR (1.3) his VALENTINE antiscion her VALENTINE (1.0) IP: Logged |
venus in gemini Knowflake Posts: 883 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2010 01:11 PM
IQ, If you ever want to use us as an example, you have my blessing. It might be the easiest to show, since you just worked on ours.But if you do, would you consider creating a separate thread, if Diandra doesn't mind? My sense is that this thread will be very difficult for people to find in the future. People might not remember the topic of the "To Comica" thread. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted January 26, 2010 01:25 PM
awwwi never thought that the thread would create such a search hihihi i only wanted to show Comica the table. But you´re right VIG,i should have put a title more in convenience with the subject..dahh and i would love to see your aspects with your TF - must be amazing really! IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 1212 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2010 01:59 PM
VIG, it's a really nice suggestion! It would be great if there are actual examples of the cases. X3 Also, your case is a TF case right? do you have all the things iQ listed?IP: Logged |
Lara Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Dec 2011
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posted January 26, 2010 02:00 PM
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DD Knowflake Posts: 7072 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 26, 2010 03:03 PM
VIG;yes, I am interested,t oo, how works that list for you? IP: Logged |
venus in gemini Knowflake Posts: 883 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 27, 2010 10:02 PM
I did IQ's Soul Mate Calculator when he first created it. I seem to remember it being over 50.When IQ posted his thread about the Saturn Shift charts, he noted that we had a Sun conjunct Sun when he looked at our Saturn shift. He also mentioned that he had lost count of the aspects that we have in our Natals and Draconics.
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