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Fiery_Water
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posted January 28, 2010 03:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fiery_Water     Edit/Delete Message

I am sun and moon in pisces....

And I am so tired of experiencing everything TOO intensely... I seem crazy to people for feeling what I feel, but i somehow cant help it.

I thought the whole world experiences things deeply as I was growing up..and as I went through life I realised that that's not the case. I do not know how to experience things on the surface, or not to look at the meaning or make sense of anything emotionally and spiritually.

It makes it very hard to relate to people. It makes it very hard not to be self involved deep inside- while on the outside being the type of person who has to completely go all the way to adapt to otehr people..repressing my own world knowing that they ll never understand it.

And it s an incredibly lonely feeling. Because when i finally decided not to be the one who adapts... be myself..get the truth out..and let ppl adapt - i ve become this ununderstood complicated self involved creature..which I hate

but the former felt fake as well

I HOPE I AM NOT DOOMED TO bE LONELY

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iQ
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posted January 28, 2010 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Nope, you wont be lonely. You will be quite happy with a Cancer boy having his Sun in 6th House. They feel just as much as a Pisces girl.

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Glaucus
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posted January 28, 2010 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

I am very sorry that you're feeling that way.
I can strongly relate to you in that way,and I believe that many others can too with many that don't have any Pisces placements.

I have Moon in Pisces square Neptune myself
I also have Mercury and Venus parallel Neptune, Mars square Neptune,and Saturn oppose/contraparallel Neptune. I even have Heliocentric Neptune Nodes oppose the Lunar Nodes,sextile/trine Midheaven. I have Geocentric South Neptune Node conjunct/oppose the Lunar Nodes. So I am extremely Neptunian overall......so very idealistic,imaginative, sensitive.....even more so.


How is your Sun and Moon aspected?

also what aspects do you have involving the transneptunians? People strong in those energies are very metaphysically oriented, can feel life intensely,being extremely sensitive to subtleties,and it can get them misunderstood by people. Very complexed people. if they involve hard aspects, even more so. I have am very strong in transneptunian energies that include hard aspects.


Raymond

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Fiery_Water
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posted January 28, 2010 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fiery_Water     Edit/Delete Message
IQ

I dont generally get attracted to cancer boys. I get attracted to alot of PISCEANS And we get lost and hurt each other...

Or earth signs- and it always begins with them being too cold for me, but if it eventually works out they get to clingy and dont understand that I need my space.

I love scorpios too but they scare me.

Thanks alot Glaucus, It s tough to live like that right. It does pay off at other times when u know u experience more pleasure/happiness than anyone because ur more sensitive to it, but its a tough price to pay. I dont know if i have the aspects ur talking bout but here s my chart

born on 10 March 1986 local time 12:30 am
in Alexandria, EGYPT U.T. 22-30
29e54, 31n12 sid. time 11:38:51

Planetary positions
planet sign degree motion
Sun Pisces 19°03'25 in house 3 direct
Moon Pisces 10°51'20 in house 3 direct
Mercury Aries 0°51'29 in house 4 retrograde
Venus Aries 0°59'04 in house 4 direct
Mars Sagittarius 20°23'12 in house 1 direct
Jupiter Pisces 4°07'27 in house 3 direct
Saturn Sagittarius 9°37'43 end of house 12 stationary (R)
Uranus Sagittarius 22°14'13 in house 1 direct
Neptune Capricorn 5°35'00 in house 1 direct
Pluto Scorpio 7°07'11 in house 11 retrograde
True Node Taurus 0°34'56 in house 5 retrograde
Planets at the end of a house are interpreted in the next house.

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Sagittarius 11°53'57
2nd House Capricorn 13°43'48
3rd House Aquarius 19°09'30
Imum Coeli Pisces 24°14'26
5th House Aries 24°35'00
6th House Taurus 19°44'38
Descendant Gemini 11°53'57
8th House Cancer 13°43'48
9th House Leo 19°09'30
Medium Coeli Virgo 24°14'26
11th House Libra 24°35'00
12th House Scorpio 19°44'38

Major aspects
Sun Square Mars 1°20
Sun Square Uranus 3°11
Sun Square Ascendant 7°09
Moon Conjunction Jupiter 6°44
Moon Square Saturn 1°14
Moon Sextile Neptune 5°16
Moon Trine Pluto 3°44
Moon Square Ascendant 1°03
Mercury Conjunction Venus 0°08
Mercury Square Neptune 4°44
Venus Square Neptune 4°36
Mars Conjunction Uranus 1°51
Jupiter Square Saturn 5°30
Jupiter Sextile Neptune 1°28
Jupiter Trine Pluto 3°00
Saturn Conjunction Ascendant 2°16
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°32
Numbers indicate orb (deviation from the exact aspect angle).

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Agent_009
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posted January 28, 2010 05:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message
IQ,

So why only Cancer with Pisces?? why not Scorpio too?? Are usually one of the trines better than the other?? What if like Fiery says, she doesnt like Cancer....then what're the next best options??

...cuz I totally relate with her situation. Out of my trine-options of Cappy's or Taurus...I cant stand Tauruses, they drive me absolutely insane. I'd much rather just go for a Virgo over a Cappy.

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Glaucus
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posted January 28, 2010 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I looked at any major aspects involving the Transneptunians


All the planets beyond Saturn are referred to as outerplanets, and so they are related to metaphysical energies. Uranus is the planet of liberation from boundaries as it breaks way with its need for independence,and it is associated with innovation and intuitive flashes. Neptune is the planet of dissolution of boundaries as it pierces the veil to reveal another world,and it is associated with imagination,inspiration, and psychism. Pluto is the planet of elimination of boundaries, and is compared to being the other side. This could be death,afterlife,or could be the subterranean depths of the human psyche. It is possible that Pluto's fellow transneptunian objects could be similar to Pluto. I believe that Pluto and its fellow transneptunians can be energies so metaphysical that they can be hard to handle and can manifest as problems on the physical plane such as serious health problems,psychiatric disorders, and even neurodivergence which are often subtle in their own way and very misunderstood. These aren't necessarily bad things.

People strong in transneptunian energies could be extremely sensitive to subtleties with extreme depth that that they can be very misunderstood by others and could have significant problems with dealing with stress from their environment. This is especially so for people with transneptunian hard aspects that include the conjunction,opposition,and square.


I checked not only the regular coordinates but also Right Ascension which is the equatorial longitude coordinates that astronomers use along with declination.

I use small orbs for the big transneptunian objects

3 degrees for conjunction,opposition,trine,square
2 degrees for sextile

in Declinations,
30 minutes of arc for parallel,contraparallel


Haumea in 23'24 Virgo
conjunct Midheaven in 24'14 Virgo

strong in transneptunian energies could be extremely sensitive to subtleties with extreme depth that that they can be very misunderstood by others and could have significant problems with dealing with stress from their environment.

keywords for Haumea:
Positive: Soulful confidence, an unshakeable personal inner knowing, creative, regenerative. Able to reconstruct, redefine, transform, especially regarding consciousness, willfulness and restoring rock solid integrity. Supportive. Fostering. Fertile. Creative.

Negative : Insecure and attention demanding. Dramatic. Egocentric. A bully disposition. Forces head-on collisions. Claims martyrdom and sacrifice to secure attention. Willing to attach to someone else’s momentum or allowing dependent sorts to attach to one’s efforts for self benefit (using non-paid volunteers, fans, devotees).

Mundane: Self awareness programs. Portraits and or caricatures. “Spin” as in political or media framing of events. Affinity or family bonds with those similar in nature. The Hula. The big island of Hawaii. Storm warnings to sailors in form or rainbow. Lava cooling in the sea to make land. Creation, fertility, childbirth and sisterhood. Verbal affirmations. Body sacrifice. Entourages. Groupies.

Ceremonial: Hulas, regeneration ceremonies, affirmations. Soul-based capitulation ceremonies (surrendering ego to spirit). Ceremonies in which a mask is removed (unmasking of the great Hopi kachina Saquasohuh).

Lunar bodies contributing to keywords: Hi’iaka, Namaka.

Varuna in 19'56 Gemini
oppose Mars in 20'23 Sagittarius
oppose Uranus in 22'14 Sagittarius
square Sun in 19'03 Pisces

In Right Ascension:

Varuna in 19'26 Gemini
oppose Mars in 19'33 Sagittarius
oppose Uranus in 21'32 Gemini
square Sun in 19'56 Pisces

T-Square of Sun square the opposition of Mars-Uranus and Varuna which is a dynamic hard transneptunian aspect pattern which can indicate ego,vitality extremely sensitive to subtleties with extreme depth that that they can be very misunderstood by others and could have significant problems with dealing with stress from their environment.

Sun square Varuna is narrower in orb in Right Ascension
Mars oppose Varuna is narrower in orb in Right Ascension


keywords for Varuna:
Positive - sovereign, competent, regulating without force, mastery of all tasks accepted

Negative - incompetent and blaming, laments losses, holds resentment

Mundane - appointments or elected positions, delegation of authority, promotions, demotions, court martial, public humiliation

Ceremonial - ceremonies to confirm positions, spiritual coronations, “induced” journeys as in shamanically led vision quests

Conjunction of:
Ixion in 20'32 Scorpio R
Quaoar in 21'00 Scorpio R

trine Sun in 19'03 Pisces


In Right Ascension:

Conjunction of:
Ixion if 20'07 Scorpio R
Quaoar in 20'00 Scorpio R

trine Sun in 19'56 Pisces

Sun trine Ixion-Quaoar is narrower in Right Ascension

Ego,vitality could be extremely sensitive to subtleties with extreme depth that that they can be very misunderstood by others and could have significant problems with dealing with stress from their environment.

Moon parallel Ixion -'28 applying

Emotional nature,feelings could be extremely sensitive to subtleties with extreme depth that that they can be very misunderstood by others and could have significant problems with dealing with stress from their environment.


keywords for Ixion:
Positive - understands karmic wheel, gives and uses a second chance, discerning

Negative - lustful, inconsiderate, inclined to repeat errors, learns nothing from experience

Mundane - second efforts and chances, reset buttons, cloud seeding, study of weather, watching clouds, lust or coveting of another's mate

Ceremonial - rain dances, purging fires, seeking master healers


keywords for Quaoar:
Positive - creative, inspiring, possibility oriented, uplifts sagging emotion, strong sense of self

Negative - doom saying, prophet of Armageddon, controls others with fear

Mundane - birds, frogs, bears, songs and dances of cultural or spiritual origin, harmony, syncopation, rhythm

Ceremonial - singing and dancing praise the Creator, use of animal totems

In Right Ascension:

Makemake in 14'22 Virgo R
oppose Moon in 13'51 Pisces

Emotional nature,feelings could be extremely sensitive to subtleties with extreme depth that that they can be very misunderstood by others and could have significant problems with dealing with stress from their environment.

keywords for Makemake:
Positive: Articulate and ultra-communicative. Self-assuredness, especially by verbal means. Clever, quick-witted and interested in invoking insight and inspiration with speech. Quick to report findings, regardless of impact. Courageous, possessing the willfulness to confront the peril required for discovery or spiritual evolution. Conscious of family security and safety. Protection of the brood.

Negative: Cunning and verbally manipulative. Double talk. Diversion of facts. Declaring false findings (laying an egg, so to speak). Taking flight to avoid consequence. Hiding as a coping skill. Reckless. Disregard for safety of the home. Self-serving.

Mundane: Data collection to support a doctrine or cause. Books, especially those of multi-cultural interest. Translation especially with a cross-cultural theme. Cultural synthesis. Integration of tasks. Computer iterations and/or algorithms. Dissemination of information whether true or false. Split second decisions. Lightning fast assessment. Fertility and fertility procedures. Birds. Fans. Eggs. Creeds. Documents of self declaration - affirmation statements, bios or autobiographies, a feather in one’s cap, selecting a safe location for nesting.

Ceremonial: Incantations. Oral remedies for healing. Meditations to unify the minds of several. Isolation for ceremonial purposes. Shamanic retreat. Cave ceremonies. Ceremonies involving hair cutting. Personal acceptance of one’s cause and karma. Ceremonies involving the use of feathers or eggs (feather fans, Eagle feather cleansing, the egg diagnostics of curanderos and curanderas - common in Ecuador, one of Rapa Nui’s neighbors).

Mercury parallel Sedna - '20 applying

The mental processes could be extremely sensitive to subtleties with extreme depth that that they can be very misunderstood by others and could have significant problems with dealing with stress from their environment.

Positive - a forgiving disposition, discernment, clarity of perception, recognition of free will and choice, responsible, conscious of consequence, far thinking, dharma-oriented, does the homework of life

Negative - victimization, abuse, being deceived, history of betrayal, bitterness, “gold digging” attitude in relationship, transfers blame to others, numbs out, goes unconscious

Mundane - blubber, products made from sea mammals, whaling, diving bells that go into the dark of the sea, emotional healing, forgiveness, sorrow, engagement, masks, flight of the birds

Ceremonial - cleansing in the sea, propitiation to the sea, sea creatures, use of sea creature talismans (walrus tusk carvings, scrimshaw), ceremony with masks of sea creatures, ceremonial masks in general


Raymond


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iQ
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posted January 28, 2010 05:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Agent,
Scorpio is cool too but they are very busy being chased by the Fire Sign ladies

Cancerians have a certain sweetness, they are patient. They will hear out a Piscean girl's feelings.

Hi Fiery_Water,
Asc sq Moon is one of the problem areas for you, it causes emotional personality conflict. I would have thought Sagittarius Males would attract you, as Asc and Sun combinations have great rapport.
Bottomline, you wont be lonely. You are just 24!!!!


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Fiery_Water
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posted January 28, 2010 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fiery_Water     Edit/Delete Message
Wow - thnx Raymond

Very interesting indeed...

What kind of astrology is that? I love how nature gets into it...the imagery is so powerful


Although I cant help feeling abit doomed by all this... I often wish I was just an airy creature, if u know what I mean?

But very grateful for your in depth analysis - shall try to embrace the intensity.

My biggest fear is becoming a Sylvia Plath- possibly because I am too amused by her...


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Fiery_Water
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posted January 28, 2010 06:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fiery_Water     Edit/Delete Message

yes iq I see what ur saying - Although I do have alot of fire for those scorpios.

I wasnt talk bout romantic loneliness but just that whole living in ur shell thing even when being with ppl (friends, partners, etc.)

yes i see what u mean about the the asc-square moon. I once liked a guy with moon in sagg (sun in cap) and it literally felt like this conflict...part of me hating him and part of me getting along with him.

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Ami Ann
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posted January 28, 2010 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Fiery Water
IME, there are two things going on when I feel isolated and not connected as you describe. First, I am alienated from myself which I have been from my early teens. Second, I give my heart to people who don't understand it.
The hardest part is getting a friendship with myself, a respect and nurturing relationship with myself.
I am doing that and at the same time, wonderful people seem to come in to my life.
I have Scorpio Ascendent, Saturn in first house(Ugh) and Cancer moon and mars.
Ami

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leapinglemur14
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posted January 28, 2010 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
trust me your are not alone. There are plenty of us here who understand you. Its people like us who understand the depth of the human psyche that can truly change and shape the world for better. Sometimes you have to hide a part of yourself in order to make it through the day. But never forget or be ashamed of what you are. You have a gift which allows you to live rather than simply exist and one day you'll find that people will come to you for your depth and undertsanding that they can't find anywhere else. And until you find your person you have us here

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Glaucus
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posted January 28, 2010 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"Wow - thnx Raymond"

You're welcome

"Very interesting indeed..."

yep

"What kind of astrology is that? I love how nature gets into it...the imagery is so powerful"

21st Century Astrology in my opinion

Modern Astrology, especially Psychological Astrology was based on the belief that Pluto was a planet. Pluto was discovered in 1930. Until the discovery of its Moon, Charon in 1978, Pluto was even thought to be as large as our Earth. That turned out to be false. It was found that Pluto was even much smaller than our Moon. In 1992, astronomers found that Pluto was not alone in the outer regions of the solar system. The Kuiper belt that was hypothesized by astronomer,Dr. Gerald Kuiper was confirmed. Soon after, they kept finding more and more transneptunian objects. They started finding big ones in 2000, and the debate against Pluto being a planet was stronger with each larger object discovered. Then finally in 2005, they found an object larger than Pluto. The can of worms that was already open, completely split with astronomers arguing among each other if Pluto was a planet or not. They forced to come up with definition for a planet, and even the definition was controversial. The dwarf planet criteria and Pluto's demotion were controversial. In 2006, the object that led to discord in the astronomical community,re-defining planetary criteria,controversy,and the demotion of Pluto was named Eris after the Greek Goddess of Discord.

IMHO The discoveries of the other big transneptunian objects and the discovery of Eris was the beginning of 21st Century Astrology which I believe is ruled by Eris.


Keywords for transneptunians by Philip Sedgwick who is one of the few astronomically oriented astrologers that specializes in transneptunians,centaurs. He also specializes in deep space objects,Heliocentric Astrology. His keywords aren't just based on the name's mythology but also the physical,orbital features of the object. He also gets insights from the sign of the Heliocentric North Node and the sign of Perihelion of the object during its discovery. http://www.philipsedgwick.com/

Here are how the transneptunians effect me in my chart


orbs
aspects to transneptunians
3'00 - conjunction,opposition,trine,square (1'00 - very significant, a dominant theme....conjunction,opposition,square - a major life challenge)
2'00 - sextile ('30 - very significant,a dominant theme)

In Declinations:
'30 - parallel,contraparallel ('15 - very significant,a dominant theme, a major life challenge)

aspects to nodes:
1'00 - conjunction,opposition,trine,square ('30 - very significant, a dominant theme.....conjunction,opposition,square - a major life challenge)
sextile - 30 ('15 - very significant,a dominant theme)

In my chart:

Ixion in 5'20 Scorpio
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio - '05 (very significant.....a dominant theme,a major life challenge)
trine Moon 3'11 Pisces

In Right Ascension:
Ixion in 6'53 Scorpio
conjunct Sun in 3'02 Scorpio
trine Moon in 4'24 Pisces

(Moon trine Ixion narrower in ecliptic longitude)

Heliocentric Ixion Nodes in 10'43 Gemini/Sagittarius
conjunct Midheaven/Imum Coeli Axis in 11'14 Gemini (very significant...a dominant theme,a major life challenge)

Geocentric North Ixion in 11'45 Gemini
conjunct/oppose Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius (very significant...a dominant theme, a major life challenge)

(Both Geocentric North Ixion Node and Heliocentric Ixion Nodes aspect my Midheaven/Imum Coeli,and that's very significant)


Ixion: Father of the Centaurs, and not a particularly nice fellow. Orbital Period: 246.78 yr.

Positive - understands karmic wheel, gives and uses a second chance, discerning

Negative - lustful, inconsiderate, inclined to repeat errors, learns nothing from experience

Haumea in 11'17 Virgo
conjunct/oppose Ascendant/Descendant in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces
square Midheaven/Imum Coeli in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius - '03 (very significant....a dominant theme,major life challenge)

Orbital Period: 285.31 yr., with two moons, Hi'iaka and Namaka., 3rd brightest KBO (Pluto #1), orbital period w/Moon about 3.9 hours, cigar shaped object because of fast rotational period, 1200 km diameter? Hawaiian creation goddess.

Positive: Soulful confidence, an unshakeable personal inner knowing, creative, regenerative. Able to reconstruct, redefine, transform, especially regarding consciousness, willfulness and restoring rock solid integrity. Supportive. Fostering. Fertile. Creative.

Negative : Insecure and attention demanding. Dramatic. Egocentric. A bully disposition. Forces head-on collisions. Claims martyrdom and sacrifice to secure attention. Willing to attach to someone else’s momentum or allowing dependent sorts to attach to one’s efforts for self benefit (using non-paid volunteers, fans, devotees).


Varuna in 3'01 Gemini R
square Moon in 3'11 Pisces - '10 (very significant......a dominant theme,major life challenge)

In Right Ascension:
Varuna in 2'57 Gemini
square Moon in 4'24 Varuna

(Moon square Varuna narrower in ecliptic longitude)

Geocentric South Varuna Node in 5'41 Capricorn
sextile Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
Varuna: Vedic deity of vast power, particularly the waters. Orbital Period: 284.65 yr.

Positive - sovereign, competent, regulating without force, mastery of all tasks accepted

Negative - incompetent and blaming, laments losses, holds resentment


Quaoar in 2'22 Scorpio
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio
trine Moon in 3'11 Pisces - '49 (very significant.......a dominant theme)

In Right Ascension:
Quaoar in 1'17 Scorpio
conjunct Sun in 3'02 Scorpio

(Sun conjunct Quaoar is narrower in Right Ascension)

Quaoar: Native American deity of creation. The first object in space to bear a Native American name (not counting Hopi and Navajo, which refer to tribes). Orbital Period: 283.84 yr.

Positive - creative, inspiring, possibility oriented, uplifts sagging emotion, strong sense of self

Negative - doom saying, prophet of Armageddon, controls others with fear


Eris in 12'15 Aries R
sextile/trine Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis in 11'14 Gemini/Sagittarius - 1'01 (very significant, a dominant theme)

Heliocentric Eris Nodes in 5'30 Taurus/Scorpio
oppose Sun in 5'20 Scorpio - '10 (very significant, a dominant theme, a major life challenge)

Geocentric Eris Node in 5'30 Taurus
oppose Sun in 5'20 Scorpio - '10 (very significant, a dominant theme, a major life challenge)

Geocentric Eris Node in 5'29 Scorpio
conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio Scorpio - '09 (very significant, a dominant theme, a major life challenge

(I was born during a period when the geocentric and heliocentric nodes were aligned with each other with the Sun aspecting them-----very significant)

Orbital Period: 556.65 yr., has lunar companion, 4th brightest KBO (Pluto #1), 3000 km diameter? (Pluto is estimated at 2320 Km).

Positive - liberation from addictions to success or status, clear priorities regarding matters of love and money, finally getting you can't take it with you and applying full resourcefulness in life, recognition of the potency of one's energy and life force, clear sense of the sacred marriages: spirit to body, self to Creator, between soulful companions, personal sense of emergence.

Negative - greed, workaholism, believe that you must take over for God, general sense of being forsaken, condemned or abandoned, lack of spiritual regard for life, superficial, status oriented.

Sedna in 2'06 Taurus
sextile Moon in 3'11 Pisces

In Right Ascension:
Sedna in 3'46 Taurus R
oppose Sun in 3'02 Scorpio - '44 (very significant, a dominant theme, a major life challenge)
sextile Moon in 4'24 Pisces

(Moon sextile Sedna is narrower in Right Ascension)

Makemake in 16'20 Leo
square Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio
Orbital Period 309.00 yr., 2nd brightest KBO (Pluto #1), 1,250 km diameter? From Rapa Nui. Pronounced maki-maki.

Positive: Articulate and ultra-communicative. Self-assuredness, especially by verbal means. Clever, quick-witted and interested in invoking insight and inspiration with speech. Quick to report findings, regardless of impact. Courageous, possessing the willfulness to confront the peril required for discovery or spiritual evolution. Conscious of family security and safety. Protection of the brood.

Negative: Cunning and verbally manipulative. Double talk. Diversion of facts. Declaring false findings (laying an egg, so to speak). Taking flight to avoid consequence. Hiding as a coping skill. Reckless. Disregard for safety of the home. Self-serving.


"Snow White" in 16'35 Aquarius
square Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio

Geocentric North "Snow White" Node in 5'55 Pisces
trine Sun in 5'20 Scorpio

Orbital Period: 552.67 yr.

Positive: Self contained, compassionate, sensitive, empathetic. Strong sense of fairness. Uncompromising assessment of one’s spiritual state. When on task, amazingly enthusiastic. Believe in dharma/karma.

Negative: Easy to consume, compliant, co-dependent, striving for closeness while using distance and aloofness as a defense. Socially conscious to a fault, competitive. Lack of fairness. Selfish. Zealous. Rationalizing. Refusal to accept one’s position. Projecting nature. Sacrificial for fervent causes, often resentful of the sacrifice. Bitter about “life’s hand” or “lot.” Feeling of being marked or a target.

In Right Ascension:
Pluto in 7'10 Libra
trine/sextile Midheaven/Imum Coeli Axis in 9'40 Gemini/Sagittarius

Geocentric South Pluto Node in 18'18 Capricorn
sextile Mercury in 18'21 Scorpio - '03 (very significant, a dominant theme)

keywords:Transformation,regeneration,penetration,elimination,power

In Declinations:
Orcus 13'17 North
contraparallel Sun 13'18 South - '01 (very signficant,a dominant theme, major life challenge)


Orcus - A lord of the underworld. Orbital Period: 248.01 yr.

Positive: a person of one’s word, challenges broken promises, aligned with a spiritual creed, accountable for personal thought, word and deed

Negative: hypocritical, fault finding in the ways of others, blame assigning, ducks responsibility for word and actions, unable to keep promises

Raymond

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