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letram
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posted January 28, 2010 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
iv been thinking a lot lately about aquarian energy and uranian energy, and particularly the whole 'freedom' thing when it comes to love/attatchment/emotions and stuff.

iv not read any books, or any big particular posts on aquarius/uranus, i simply thought this up, and thanks to a couple little things mentioned here and there on LL, i came to this perspective. so excuse me if its all been said before.

firstly i guess i can say, im not an Aquarius, i do have uranus/aquarius influence in my chart though. my 7th cusp sits in Aquarius, and uranus trines my sun (orb 4) and aspects about half a dozen of my planets (jupiter opposition, square venus, wide square moon, tine sun)

so anyway, as far as im aware, Aquarius is considered a mental sign/energy? uranus is part of this in some way too right?

and so there is this whole thing about, aquarius people, and/or uranus-venus people (in hard aspect) having this 'cheating' thing, instability, freedom, etc. or as some say, they need excitement, or perhaps need relationships where things are up and down, a rollercoaster ride etc.

my thoughts on this to understand my self have been - well, aquarius is a mental energy, and its freedom is not just really what it wants to do, it goes for what they want to feel or think. freedom. as MVM said once, in regards to Moon in hard aspect to uranus - "to be free WITH you, not FROM you". iv come to a conclusion that Uranus/Aquarius people are not about cheating, thats the road this Energy can go down typically..

iv come to realize, that this energy needs Freedom to think, feel, and do as they please. they need spontaneity and excitement. so in regards to love feelings, love can be considered predictable in a way i think, once two are in love, you know what is there, and you indulge in it from then on, but where is the spontaneity and excitement once it becomes predictable or the same ride repeating the same trip?

they probably enjoy the initial romance a lot, where things are in question still, such as what one another feels. its not predictable, and the spontaneity still exists. they are more prone to think about it and ponder. their emotional interest becomes clearer with what they feel?

when another shows much attachment, or clingy feelings, they feel trapped because they feel obligated to think or feel the same way as the other does. they do not feel free to love, or think about it in their own pace and time, they need to feel free to do it, not obligated

once in a relationship where the other is clingy or very expressive of their feelings, or even demanding, these people, particularly venus-uranus people, fall prone to cheating because it offers what they originally had - freedom to think or feel as they do, their attachment is less obligated, there feelings and attachments feel unrestricted outside.

so i figured that for these people to feel happy, they must feel untrapped/unobligated, and free to think, and feel and express their attatchment/feelings/thoughts when they are ready. when one says to them 'i love you' they will feel restricted perhaps by 'obligation' to say the same. but they may not even be thinking about love at that time, their mind (mental energy here) could be so far away, and hence the trapped/obligated feeling.

what ends up happening is they do not feel content, an unsettled feeling, restless. because they feel trapped to think or feel a certain way to some one else when they feel demanded to, instead of feeling free.

well, i guess thats my go of having a 'go' at expressing my thoughts on this that i had, i probably didnt do a good job, and it probably isnt very new.

but i felt like writing about it ; )

maybe i'll try and add more, make what you want of it!

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belgz
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posted January 28, 2010 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
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iv come to realize, that this energy needs Freedom to think, feel, and do as they please. they need spontaneity and excitement. so in regards to love feelings, love can be considered predictable in a way i think, once two are in love, you know what is there, and you indulge in it from then on, but where is the spontaneity and excitement once it becomes predictable or the same ride repeating the same trip?

they probably enjoy the initial romance a lot, where things are in question still, such as what one another feels. its not predictable, and the spontaneity still exists. they are more prone to think about it and ponder. their emotional interest becomes clearer with what they feel?

when another shows much attachment, or clingy feelings, they feel trapped because they feel obligated to think or feel the same way as the other does. they do not feel free to love, or think about it in their own pace and time, they need to feel free to do it, not obligated

once in a relationship where the other is clingy or very expressive of their feelings, or even demanding, these people, particularly venus-uranus people, fall prone to cheating because it offers what they originally had - freedom to think or feel as they do, their attachment is less obligated, there feelings and attachments feel unrestricted outside.

so i figured that for these people to feel happy, they must feel untrapped/unobligated, and free to think, and feel and express their attatchment/feelings/thoughts when they are ready. when one says to them 'i love you' they will feel restricted perhaps by 'obligation' to say the same. but they may not even be thinking about love at that time, their mind (mental energy here) could be so far away, and hence the trapped/obligated feeling.

what ends up happening is they do not feel content, an unsettled feeling, restless. because they feel trapped to think or feel a certain way to some one else when they feel demanded to, instead of feeling free.


You just described me with every word!
I have nothing in aquarius. But my 3rd house ruler is conjunct uranus.

Uranus is in my 3rd conjunct jupiter. I have to be free at all times. I love detached people but i dont like coldness either. My ex had aqua moon and uranus in 5th.

I am obsessed with freedom. I read constantly about Fidel castro and Che guevara and about people who fought for freedom.

I love Aquarius whether it be moon or sun sign or even venus oh and especially mars!!

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cappy1277
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posted January 28, 2010 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cappy1277     Edit/Delete Message
i myself have a venus in aquarius and i can say that you have hit the nail on the head. while i do fall in love, i need that emotional freedom. clingy people are a turn off and i run for the hills. quickly. and never look back. while i don't classify myself as a cheater, i can simulataneoulsy have more than one relationship without feeling confused. my uranian energy is hard for me as a mother because i am committed and obligated to my children but i do have to have to those moments for myself.
the way that i equate my uranian energy is like a wild caged animal. eventually i'm going to bite through those bars and escape. i guess my gemini moon doesn't help any either since i like to wander.

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Lehia2
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posted January 28, 2010 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lehia2     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not Aqua but I've been surrounded by them my entire life. While I do agree with a lot of things you say -especially what you say about the freedom- I'm not that sure I agree with their 'cheating' ways. Most (if not all) Aquas I know are VERY loyal, and honest. Of course they do tell the ocassional white lie, but who doesn't? . I don't think any of them would play with anyone's feelings. I think that because they're not as emotional as water or fire signs, they tend to know what they want, and once they have it, they don't change their minds as quickly as a person who's ruled by emotions would (i.e an emotional person might get bored quickly, or change their minds just 'because'). It has been my experience that once they want something they "cling" to it, until they get it. And that goes for relationships too, I have yet to meet an Aqua in love who'd leave their partner just because they need more "excitement". They might leave their partners for a lot of other reasons, but I think they'd try and make it work before just leaving someone. I'm talking about Aqua Suns and at least two of them have their Moon in Gemini. I might be wrong, but that's been my experience with them.

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vesta
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posted January 28, 2010 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vesta     Edit/Delete Message

I feel the same way I have Uranus conjunct my Decendant in Scorpio. And the venus in Aquarius sound exactly like a guy I knew who had ven in Aquarius conjunct my mars.
We were very much attracted to each other but he needed freedom and the ruler of his 5th was in his first. Always looking for the next relationship.

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DiandraReborn25
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posted January 28, 2010 10:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
Belgz

this is spooky!i have the same placements has you - uranus cj jup in 3rd,being jup my 3rd ruler.

and my bf has aqua moon with uranus in his 5th!

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Ami Ann
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posted January 28, 2010 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
My mother is Aqua in 12th house combust Mercury.
If you told her you loved her, it was a "wait and see" as to whether or not she felt it enough to say it back.
Are Aqua mothers like that or did I just hit the lottery?

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mermaid26
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posted January 28, 2010 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mermaid26     Edit/Delete Message
I think you did a great job expressing your assessment. My Venus in Aquarius likes the freedom to explore my own wonderland a lot. By that I mean I don't feel like my husband and I have to do everything together or have identical tastes. It means that I want him to know that I don't like red roses just because that's the popular choice. It means I like "different" restaurants, music, etc... It would be "ideal" if he knew as much about me as I do. I like to know what people like and why. He pays no attention to such details about a person. However, I realize not everyone is a mind reader, hence the important need for clear communications in any relationship. I don't equate freedom with cheating. I think every soul yearns to be FREE, perhaps one of the deepest seeds of truth. The soul/intellect is strongly relational to the wind, which is flight, which is soaring freely. ANGELS, Ascension, Attainment, our primary goal. I think cheating is a complex and painful issue. I have been loyal, (perhaps my Taurus moon) for 26 years to my spouse. My dad, an Aquarian, was quite the cheater. This doesn't mean that I think all Aquarian men are cheaters. I try to continuously conquer the fear demon and live by the "what you fear will surely come upon you" motto. No easy task. Ultimately, we all have the free will choice as to whether we'll create good or bad Karma. We will all face temptations and our lessons will be repeated until we pass the test. OUCH...it sure does hurt being in a boxing ring. So yes, I want FREEDOM, which interestingly contains the words freed from me...my codependent EGO.

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posted January 28, 2010 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
I am an Aquarius with my DSC ruler (Jupiter) in my 11th and my Venus square Uranus (also squares Saturn so that alters the picture a bit). I love romance, but I don't like instability or insecurity in relationships. My Venus square Uranus aspect happens like this: I have had many relationships and I tend to fall in love very quickly. This also means that I tend to get over relationships very quickly and move on. Once I'm through with a guy, or he has broken up with me, I quickly bounce back with a new one.

I am totally fine with the mundane (Venus square Saturn). I like security and I don't mind having a routine when it comes to lovers. I can be a touch clingy, too, I admit.

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posted January 28, 2010 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message
I have Sun opposite Uranus and for the longest time I was noncommital and freedom loving. For a while I was not into relationships at all. Uranus is in my 5th and I have an Aqua MC and north node.....and now I am in a relationship with an aquarian....who can cope with my freedom loving side.

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posted January 28, 2010 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for enchantress299     Edit/Delete Message
I've got Uranus square Venus and I have to say that I fight the cheater stereotype because I am not a cheater once I'm in a relationship. However, what you've described here about freedom makes more sense to me. It takes me a while to get to the point of wanting to be IN a relationship to begin with. I don't do well with a caged bird scenario. I would prefer love to come from a place of spontaneous joy and rapport rather than a feeling of obligation to someone.

I've known quite a few Aquarius suns, a few Moons, a few ASCs, and a few Venuses, and they are all very much the same in this regard.

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posted January 28, 2010 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
I can relate to members here ~ much of the time growing up, I had no interest in relationships.. the only trouble is, that once I've had strong feelings for someone, I have a horrible time trying to let go (I rarely fall, but when I do, I fall hard - no easily bouncing back- frankly, I'm wishing right now, that I'd never fallen at all).

I don't do casual romantic relationships. It just feels wrong to me. If there's no attachment, then what's the point? I'm either going to really go for it, or not at all. (Sometimes I wish that wasn't the case, but whenever I've seriously thought about just trying casual, I end up feeling ill). I am not up for cheating, or open relationships.

Ceres/Chiron/Sun opposite Uranus
Moon, Venus, South Node inconjunct Uranus, also trine Pluto and sextile Jupiter.
Uranus conjunct ascendant, trine Mars.

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I love romance, but I don't like instability or insecurity in relationships.

I am totally fine with the mundane (Venus square Saturn). I like security and I don't mind having a routine when it comes to lovers. I can be a touch clingy, too, I admit.


I don't have Venus square Saturn, but I feel the same way. No games/messing me about. No disappearing without letting me know what's up (and keeping in touch somehow - even if it's just to check in and say hello).
(I may have a minor aspect between the two planets - the semisquare.)

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belgz
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posted January 29, 2010 12:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
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Belgz
this is spooky!i have the same placements has you - uranus cj jup in 3rd,being jup my 3rd ruler.

and my bf has aqua moon with uranus in his 5th!



I think we might be more uranian than some because of jupiter conjunct uranus in 3rd. The way we express ourselves and the way we talk is very much aquarius conbined with jupiter makes us very optimistic too.

Jupiter conjunct uranus = Love of freedom


Uranus in 5th people are attracted to unconventional relationships and or different people. Unique in some way or different and rebellious. We must be special LOL

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posted January 29, 2010 01:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
I've moon, venus/N.N/mars in house 11. My DC ruler uranus. My moon in square to uranus..

I've not stay in 15 years mirrage(second mirrage) if I've not got my freedom from responsibility.

In my first mirrage I just must go. I couldn't stay. I feel I've lose my freedom.

In my second mirrage I'd also feel it but first after 13 year.

It's the most importent for uranus people to get to develop there own life without restriction.

Freedom with their owns life not to be alone. I've never be intrested to cheat.... never.

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