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MoonPixie
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posted January 30, 2010 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message
I've been wanting to write this for a long time, but Life got a hold of me and I haven't been around. Please forgive me for typing out a whole encyclopedia on my recent tribulations with Karma aka my relationship with the Cancer.

He and I have known each other for two years now - romantically together since July 30, 2009. It's been almost 6 months, and within the past six months we've been wrestling with a lot of power struggles...

Charts:

Him: June 30, 1987 1:00am London, England
Me: June 24, 1988 2:00pm Chicago, Illinois

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Synastry:

I need an objective point of view on what to do about a lot of issues that I have with him. We are ALWAYS struggling with power issues, and I just don't know how to deal with them anymore. I can't objectively see where he's coming from because we're always so mad at each other nowadays... And vice versa. I'll leave our charts up and see what assessments you guys come up with... then I'll get back with specifics...

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MoonPixie
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posted January 31, 2010 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message
Specifics:

1) He's always trying to dig into my psyche. I do trust him, but he's always digging deeper and deeper into me. He claims that he always feels like he needs to have his "feelers" out with me and that a lot of his knowledge about me is based on his intuitive observations - that I'm vague and always withholding all my emotions from him. Perhaps I am... but I don't see why he needs to know every fiber of me. I trust him, but I need my space and his constant questions are starting to get on my nerves...

2) He breaks up with me to gain control... I'm very passionate, while he's very simple and extremely sensitive. When I hurt his pride either calling him out on his bs (he can get domineering and moody towards me at times when he's stressed... and I DON'T take that from anyone), he breaks up with me... and tells me that my *emotional* reactions are "overdramatic" (my actions are very calculated) and that I'll never change, and so on. The first two times I was very depressed by it... and blamed myself... but realized not that I'm overdramatic but that all of my feelings and my passions are very concentrated into one moment... then disappate into coolness... While his tend to be very moderate though VERY changeable. He always comes back not even a week later. Each time I've taken him back, but my arms have been less and less open each time... I'm not sure what to do about this anymore... Is it me? Is it him? How can I bring this up to him without invoking defensive behavior or hurting his pride? It's a double edge sword...

3) We work together (He's a director/producer; I'm an art director/publicist). Very well. And a lot. But we work together. Enough said.

4) We are complete opposites, but the same person at the same time... I liken it to two pieces of one soul: we are made of the same qualities, but are mirror images of each other. I find it so difficult to see where's coming from and we really have to sit down (and be in the right mood and mentality) to get things across. Things are golden then, but when we're out of sync.. communications just get worse.

There are a few other minor things, but these are the major. I do want to work things out, but it's getting so difficult and I feel like there's a lot of unsettled karma between us.

I still love him so much despite how stupid dramatic and sensitive he is...

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vertiver
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posted January 31, 2010 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
I see a big t-square in your composite and the focus is the moon in the 9th house, that explains your struggles, also the stellium in the 6th house isn't the best for a romantic relationship.

I can see why you two gravitated towards each other with your Suns being conjunct and your Venus Conjunction but Sun Conjunct Sun has the problem of creating competition between two people or some kind of challenge. Its like the conjunction is a glue you two at first and then it dries up and it doesn't stick any more. Sorry if I sound a little bias...

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posted January 31, 2010 02:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
I think the T-square in your composite could be not so easy to have but ... I've togheter with my exhusband so strong aspect and also strong hard aspect from saturn. We was happy in so many year togheter and I could not understand the hard composite aspect..before someone here on L.L say. It could be problem from the outside. That's right. Our familys was crazy in many year. We got problems with his and mines familymembers and they couldn't stay out off our family. They want to be with us all the time..

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comica23
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posted January 31, 2010 10:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
The t-square in your composite seems to reflect what you mentioned. The Moon usually represents the woman, while Saturn usually represents the man in the relationship. In your chart, they are square to each other, indicating conflicts and struggles between you. With Uranus in the configuration, there will be instability too, and with Chiron in the configuration, pain, criticism and control.
Mars is trine to Moon, so he's attracted to you, and quincunx to Saturn, which might seem like different sides from him compared to the previous configuration (the attracted to you side and the control side seems so different?).
Lastly, Sun is opposed to Neptune and trine Pluto. I'm not very sure how to see this, but maybe idealism and care between you?

About your feeling that you are opposites but the same person at the same time, it might be coz you have opposed ACs. I have that with my bf too, and that's also what I feel. But you also have a few planets in the same signs (your Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto, Sun and Venus in the same signs), that might add to the feelings of having the same qualities.

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crabbypatty
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posted January 31, 2010 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message
MoonPixie:

I'm new to serious astrology and so cannot offer any interpretation, but I admire many of the experts on LL and hope you get some responses that shed some light on the power struggles.

Me, personally, I am a big fan of Akashic readings to try to shed some light on interactions between people. Perhaps after looking at the astrology, you might want to look into having one of these? Finances allowing, of course.

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DiandraReborn25
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posted January 31, 2010 10:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
Comica

i never looked at composites the way you´re doing.

moon is the woman and saturn is the man?

hmmm in ours there is no moon/saturn contacts,and moon receives an oposition from mars hihihi

Saturn is well aspected but receives a semisquare from Venus. Venus rules the 3rd while saturn rules the 5th.

i can see wehre the semisquare appears cause we´re in a long distance.but the part when you say that contact between moon/saturn means attraction...im sure we´re very attracted to each other


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posted January 31, 2010 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Diandra, actually, in an heterosexual relationship, the man tends to reflect the male energies of the chart while the woman tends to reflect the female energies of the chart, so that's why Saturn/Mars is usually related to the man while Moon/Venus is usually related to the woman in a relationship.

Saturn and Moon harmoniously aspected doesn't necessarily mean attraction, but it does show basic affinity between the couple. But the lack of it doesn't necessarily mean lack of affinity, just neutral (so that the rest of the chart would be determining about this).

In your case, I'd say that Mars/Moon opposition is a source of strong attraction. X3

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DiandraReborn25
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posted January 31, 2010 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
uhhh i get it

thank you

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DD
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posted January 31, 2010 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
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MoonPixie
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posted February 01, 2010 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message
Yesterday, we spoke briefly about things that have been happening (the fighting, him constantly breaking up then coming back, etc), and he says that he realizes that he's been acting very strangely lately - that he has "a lot of lessons to learn still", doesn't know what he wants (seems to be a bit cowardly about facing how he feels about me when I get mad at him... I think he'd rather try to not care about me at all in an effort to not feel hurt when I get mad/don't think of him as highly as he would like...) and that he just doesn't have the time right now to fully tend to personal things. On the other hand, he told me that he wants us to stay together because he needs me (I chose not to dig too deep and ask how... or why) and simply just said, "We need to stay together."

I definitely feel the tension of the T-Square in our interactions with each other. I don't mind the intensity, but I think I deal with "high intensity" situations differently than he does. He's much more evasive and keeps things straight forward and simple, while I've had some strange dramatics happen throughout my life... I'm not saying that he can't handle the intensity between us, but rather he's never learned how to...

I wonder where Lara or Glaucus is... I've been wondering about Right Ascension and asteroid aspects, but I'm a total n00b.

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Lara
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posted February 01, 2010 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
omg look at those T-SQUARES

not surprised you have power struggles and the moon is at the apex.

Is it emotionally draining and upsetting?

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MoonPixie
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posted February 01, 2010 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonPixie     Edit/Delete Message
I feel emotionally tested everyday. The Moon is a very big theme in our relationship. It's greatly effected by its ebbs and flows. It's also triple emotional since we are both very watery people.

Not sure what to make of it all anymore. I'm so overloaded with everything right now.. And what's worse is that I actually love this one...

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DiandraReborn25
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posted February 01, 2010 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message

im sorry to know that MoonPixie

Do you really love him? or is it other thing?

cause if it makes you suffer so much,...is it worth it?

Is it true love..suffering too?

the way you talked...seems that power struggles,manipulation and taking control are the things that bonds you to each other.

To me,it is a way the person has to feel superior,to feel that they can control and actually have power over you.then it starts to manipulate,to say things like im gonna break up and bla bla bla...it´s acting like if you are a playing toy. when he says you need to be together...waht do you FEEL?waht does your INTUITION say about that?Does he want to be with you,as a way to be taking off your energy to him?cause the behaviour he has is to do exaclty that:he might not know it counsciously,but after he play those games,he feels a lot better,cause he actually drained your Energy.

that is why you feel so emotionally drained..and im not speaking metaphorically.

it is the Ego of him feeding off your energy.

im sorry but that doesnt say Love to me...and im so sorry for being so direct....this is what im seeing.

but of course...im here and im not directly involved,im just an observer.


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