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Topic: DD - prenatal eclipse and marriage
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vesta
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From: Colorado
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posted January 31, 2010 08:04 PM
 
Prenatal Eclipse:
Relationship Karma may be revealed by checking the eclipses that took place during the 9 months before you were born. Key people in your life may have their Sun, Moon, Asc/ IC or Saturn exactly on these points.
http://www.spiritual.com.au/articles/astrology/marriage-when-will-you-marry.html
This may be right as my Husbands sun is conjunct my lunar PNE. (1 deg)
my husbands lunar PNE is conjunct my sun. (1 deg) Johnny lunar conjunct my IC (exact)
the 9 month prior: sorry I don't remember Jude B-day.
for you:
11/29/74 - 7.01 Gemini
06/20/74 - 28.30 Gemini
06/04/74 - 13.54 Sag.
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amowls*
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From: richmond va
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posted January 31, 2010 09:30 PM
I can't for the life of me find a site that tells me when my prenatal eclipse was. Does anyone have a link?IP: Logged |
vesta
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From: Colorado
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posted January 31, 2010 09:53 PM
If you tell me your b-day I can give you the infoIP: Logged |
amowls*
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From: richmond va
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posted January 31, 2010 10:01 PM
February 8 1988ty  IP: Logged |
vesta
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posted January 31, 2010 10:21 PM
Solar PNE is 29.34 Virgo
lunar Eclipse is 13.22 AriesIP: Logged |
Lara
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From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 03:45 AM
Here's a table of eclipses. I presume it's accurate!SE is a conjunction
LE is an opposition http://www.cafeastrology.com/eclipsessolarlunar.html IP: Logged |
Lara
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From: aspideronmars
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posted February 01, 2010 03:56 AM
Mine are:
23' libra
8' aries
9' scorpio
24' ariesThis is spooky because neither my Twin nor other bf's have anything on any of these points YET my ex husband has his AC at 8' scorpio and his mercury at 8' aries. This saturn is 23' libra yikes! spooky.
Both men i had kids with ~ My ex i had a baby with has his sun at 25' aries and his venus at 22' aries. By looking at this, i'd say it's a great thing to NOT find any aspects  IP: Logged |
popcorn
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posted February 01, 2010 04:32 AM
Vesta. I checked out my mirrage in 15 year. My exhusband not had no one PN SE and LE aspect conj to my chart, only connetion to my asteroids. Do you count the connection to asteroids?My PN SE 17,16 in cancer and LE 3,3 in cancer/Cap not in aspect to his chart either. Only conj to his asteroids. Orb?
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DD
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posted February 01, 2010 05:56 AM
so mine are:
11/29/74 - 7.01 Gemini
Jude`s DESC is on 9 Gemini
there are no aspects to the two other guys I have been talking about on here.
06/20/74 - 28.30 Gemini
no conjunction to Jude`s chart
no conjunction to P`s chart
no conjunction to A`s chart, but his Sun is on 00 capricorn, opposing this
06/04/74 - 13.54 Sag.
Jude`s Venus is on 13 Sag and his Saturn is on 15 Gemini
no conjunctions to P`s chart
A`s Mercury / Osiris / DD is on 15 Sagittarius
Jude`s prenatal ecclipses are LE 3°24 Leo
no conjunctions / oppositions to my chart SE: 18°37 Cancer
conjunct my Saturn on 17 Cancer
conjunct my Vertex on 21 Cancer A`s prenatal ecclipses are:
SE on 19°45 Scorpio
no conjunctions to my chart LE on 19°45 Scorpio
no conjunctions to my chart LE on 5°32 Scorpio
no conjunctions to my chart SE on 28°55 Taurus
opposing my Valentine on 27 Scorpio, but no conjunctions to the planets LE on 13°56 Taurus
no conjunctions to my chart P`s prenatal ecclipses LE on 0°25 Pisces
no conjunctions to my planets, but my BML is on 28 Aquarius SE on 15°43 Aquarius
conjunct my Moon on 17 Aquarius LE on 2°39 Virgo
no conjunctions SE on 18°30 Leo
opposing my Moon on 17 Aquarius
This axis is very important in our comparision, as there are:
my Moon on 17 Aquarius
his SN on 16 Aquarius
his Moira on 18 Aquarius
his Pholus on 16 Aquarius my Cupido on 19 Leo
his NN on 16 Leo composite Mercury and Atlantis on 16 Aquarius
composite Suno n 21 Aquarius
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DD
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posted February 01, 2010 06:10 AM
seems, these pne`s are not a completely reliable tool.
I also have a theoretical / philosophical problem with them.They are valid for EVERYONE born in a certain time-period, so these degrees can only be indicative of some kind of "collective" or "social" karma. For example:
Vesta and me have the same PNE`s; that means that Johnny`s planets hitting her PNE, are also my PNE, but the personal meaning of him to me is a different one than himt o her. The same with Lara`s husband. Everyone born around the month Lara has been born, would have the same PNE and therefor his saturn on their PNE`s.
For these reasons I doubt they are highly significant in an individual / personal context, even though thy may point out social circumstances / purposes or even collective ones.
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Lara
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From: aspideronmars
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posted February 01, 2010 06:21 AM
I would say they are probably very valid for KARMIC relationships... highly karmic ones. They are for me anyway! IP: Logged |
Lara
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From: aspideronmars
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posted February 01, 2010 06:28 AM
PS the other guy i had a child with was 15 yrs older than me and it still hit.I think it's significant. I have dated a few guys my age and NONE of them hit my PNE's. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted February 01, 2010 06:28 AM
Lara,yes, I agree about karmic, but how can they be about personal karma, if hundreds / thousands of people share the exact same aspects?
This guy who was 15 years older than you, he would have had the same aspects to everyone born these months!
Maybe it is still significant in regard to karma, but ONLY if there are other more personal aspects simultaneously. IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 2782
From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 06:35 AM
You are right... sorry, i'm distracted - last week my email decided to delete all my inbox so i'm spending my days looking through my trash to retrieve it all.what is it with me and my emails?  IP: Logged |
DD
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posted February 01, 2010 08:40 AM
It`s strange. I was writing the above at school. I find that whenever I am writing something at school I sound more absolute and uncompromising.
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vesta
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posted February 01, 2010 09:40 AM
I believe I would agree about the conjunctions to that point being karmic. IP: Logged |
Alia
Knowflake Posts: 337
From: az
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 10:20 AM
so what would you say is the most relevant?the SE or the LE conjuncting their planets/angles ? what orb? thank you IP: Logged |
vesta
Knowflake Posts: 512
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posted February 01, 2010 10:33 AM
The PNE ( prenatal eclipse) is the solar eclipse that took place prior to birth. The lunar eclipse that took place prior to birth is linked to the solar but more on an emotional level.
Then there is the initial eclipse that took place in the series of eclipses. The initial eclipse is influenced by the sign ruler and the decan as well as the duad. It will also influence the rest of the eclipses in that series durring your life.
The natal planets that make aspect to the PNE will show karma.
The key planet is the ruler of your prenatal eclipse point and if your PNE is in SAG then jupiter is the ruler of your PNEan aspect from A's PNE to a point in B's horoscope represents a karmic link. One that implies the two have had a past life contact is exact major aspects including the inconjunct carry the most weight with karmic debts and assets.(1 degree orb)
Squares, inconjuncts and oppositions indicate debts owed by the person whose PNE aspects the other person's chart. Trines and sextiles do not indicate karmic debt they indicate a prior relationship in which debts have been cleared. A conjunction is interpreted acording to the nature of the planet involved. It indicated the need to unify. The closer the aspect the stronger the karmic tie.You can allow an orb up to 5 degree but the closer the greater impact on each other's life.
Wider aspects show an association but more of a casual one.(2-3 degree orb )
Exact aspects link the charts of married couples, lovers, children ect...
It may refer to a past life association or one in the present or both. ( taken from old post ) hope that helps. IP: Logged |
Alia
Knowflake Posts: 337
From: az
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 10:41 AM
thanks Vesta!
So there is only ONE (SOLAR) pre natal you would look at, or you consider ALL the solar pre natal eclipses within the 9 months with emphasis on the first of the series?IP: Logged |
vesta
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From: Colorado
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posted February 01, 2010 10:59 AM
I think that the solar PNE and the lunar are going to affect you more on a personal level. The eclipses that are 9 months prior are just relationship karma that are not going to have as strong of effect. Not exactly sure, had to think on this a litle as this is new to me.
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Alia
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From: az
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 01, 2010 11:15 AM
Thanks..
would u look at my case?
Im very karmically tied w this guy and i looked at PNEs :(i only considered SOLAR eclipses and as far as aspect only oppositions and conjunctions ,otherwise we have angles opposing im 17 leo rising and he s 12 aqua rising and would square the PNEs as well.) my SPNE --sun+moon 19 sco-- :
his sun 17 taurus opposed / 2 deg orb his first SPNE --sun+moon 10 sco-- :
my IC and SN conjunct / 2 deg orb his second SPNE (9 days before his birth) :
my venus conjunct
my NN conjunct
my MC conjunct
my valentine conjunct
all within 1 deg orb ETA : venus is the ruler too cuz eclipse is in taurus
Thanks!
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