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The Duke
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posted February 02, 2010 04:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Duke     Edit/Delete Message
hello.. i tried searching for something related to neptune in synastry but im not so sure about how search friendly this site is so, i'm posting something about it.

my question particularly pertains to neptune. synastry. natally, i would believe that im very neptune friendly. my north node is in pisces and my neptune is in capricorn making a trine to my sun and square to my sun's ruler; mercury.. yeah, it also squares mars and opposes chiron making a cardinal grand cross but thats besides the point.

what is neptune like in opposition? in synastry, i mean.

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The Duke
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posted February 02, 2010 04:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Duke     Edit/Delete Message
never mind.


Hard aspects between the Sun and Neptune in synastry can be rather tricky, but certainly not unmanageable. In a very few cases, outright deception is involved with this aspect. However, in most relationships with this energy, conscious deception is not an issue. What can happen, however, is that the relationship starts off with a mystical and decidedly romantic air to it. You may have felt that you met "the one", and the Sun person, in particular, may project too many qualities (often unrealistically wonderful ones!) onto the Neptune person. The Neptune person will likely be charmed by the attention, and may be inclined at times to feed the Sun person's imagination in order to keep his or her devotion levels high. This is not a conscious attempt to deceive the Sun person!

As I have mentioned elsewhere, Neptune in synastry has often been associated with one person trying to deceive another person, but in reality, this happens much less frequently than the following, more probable scenario: the Neptune person tends to "play along" with the personal planet person's image, and the intention is not to hurt that person. What can happen is that the Neptune person ends up promising more than he or she can give. If the Neptune person eventually backs out, or slips away slowly, the Sun person can feel saddened and even slighted, feeling that Neptune was misleading. Misunderstandings can be the result, and every attempt should be made to keep the dreams and visions of the relationship not only realistic, but also clear and defined. In most cases, Neptune does not want to hurt Sun, and this may be the motivating factor behind Neptune's tendency to avoid bursting Sun's bubble. The Sun person should attempt to avoid putting the Neptune person on a pedestal as well. Both of you should consciously try to avoid offering each other unrealistic hopes. They will come back to haunt you! (In the sense that they will undermine your relationship, and possibly to the point of little chance of recovery). The important thing to remember, with the square and opposition, is that although the Sun person seems to want to see the best in a Neptune person, people are not able to completely snow themselves. The Sun person will eventually feel a certain level of mistrust, and might even swing from seeing the Neptune person as completely wonderful to seeing that person as someone who is completely evil. The ups and downs can be taxing. The Sun person should remember that if he or she has to make excuses for the Neptune person (whether those excuses are made to others or to oneself), then they are not seeing the Neptune person clearly. They are truly not accepting that person, warts and all.

The focus should be on the tremendous spiritual connection that you might find exists between you if you are open to it. The Sun person tends to want to see the best in the Neptune person, and if the Sun person doesn't go too far, and if the Neptune person avoids the trap of playing a game of "pretend" in order to please the Sun person, both of you can enjoy the freedom from judgment that this relationship offers.

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Ami Ann
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posted February 02, 2010 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Great topic --The Duke
Do you mind if we talk about Neptune with other planets?
What if his Neptune opposes my Venus(1 degree)My Neptune opposes his Chiron(5 degrees).
Thanks for any information. Ami

PS What about Neptune in the Houses in Synastry?
His Neptune is in my 12 th house, I think

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The Duke
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posted February 02, 2010 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Duke     Edit/Delete Message
hey that's actually something i've noticed. synastry i think is not the best way to read about two people or their potential, what would be best would be to get a davidson chart and compare that with the natal chart of the two. that'd be more accurate but still, nothing's written in stone with astrology. we all have free will.

but back to what you mentioned, i started to notice that the houses and the planets (or nodes) that fall in them are actually able to even affect you and your chart. but just as if their chart was yours, in a way. so someone with saturn in the second would more than likely be a person that's hard on themselves and has had to work extra hard on their self esteem. that saturn in their second house, will be felt by you.. in what house? that im not sure of. i was trying to ask around to see if it was felt in the same sign or in the same house but i never got around to it LOL!

neptune opposite venus sounds a bit dangerous. simply because neptune blurs and in a case of it aspecting venus, it sounds like its up for total disappointment. its just asking for codependency. the venus would be in a sense, blindfolded with the neptune and the neptune would play along and guide u to where they feel u want to go. which is no good. if u get into ruts or stumble while walking u may lash out or speak out about it making the neptune do what neptune does best, escape. and the venus will most likely continue to be blindfolded waiting for neptune to come back to guide u. it doesnt sound too fun. especially while blindfolded. while neptunes gone, you'd still be there wearing ur blindfolds so i think the venus person would be suffering, in a sense.

i have the natal neptune and chiron opposition and i still dont understand that one. its a weird combo. dealing with pain and fantasy.. so either im working on healing, or im caught up in fantasy and either way, i end up in this own little creation of mine that no one else knows about or even feels (but thats because chiron falls in a house that deals with feelings, emotions and lots more in my chart. everyones different.)

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Ami Ann
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posted February 02, 2010 07:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I just looked up Neptune/Venus in Synastry. It can be good,too. The other person is beautiful to you in a supernatural way.
Many happy marriages have this. The people see each other with an other worldly lens.
For example, one girl said her husband saw her as the most beautiful girl in the world even though her appearance was not that way, really. In HIS eyes it was.

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bonadea33
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posted February 02, 2010 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
Hi,

I wrote about my long relationship, more friendship: his Venus exact on my Neptune in 12th. That is romantic aspect.
Me, as Neptune didn't see, how much he felt for me. He was Venus (love), I was Neptune (didn't see or understood).

In any kind is good to have it, but not in the 12th, as Neptune is already 12th house, means double 12th house is double blindness.

Bobbie

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DD
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posted February 02, 2010 09:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
"synastry i think is not the best way to read about two people or their potential, what would be best would be to get a davidson chart and compare that with the natal chart of the two."

I disagree. I think it is very useful to consider both methods.


Anyway, Neptune-aspects can be very gentle and romantic, even spiritual and compassionate. Sometimes they can also be frustrating, not just becaues of a possible delusion / illusion, but also because sometimes they will stay on the platonic side. Neptune`s way of loving is more compassionate, than passionate.

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The Duke
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posted February 02, 2010 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The Duke     Edit/Delete Message
it may have worked for that married couple but u have to keep in mind that they may have had plenty of other supportive placements. maybe a node tie.. or moon/sun conjunctions (which are apparently great for marriage with the man being the sun and woman being the moon. gay marriages i would guess are a bit different than that.) neptune would add that 'love' feel to it all. its very mystifying. but in the middle of it all, it wont be clear to either one until its all said and done. IF its all said and done. neptune and the phrase 'rose colored glasses' go hand in hand. im not sure if you've ever seen la vie en rose but well, thats the french way to say the same thing, basically. yes, the people may find each other beautiful and amazing and romantic at first, BUT, once reality sets in, if the partnership is then going to head in the direction of a relationship, it would eventually need good saturn placements, aspects or a saturn feel to it all to at least make it stick. otherwise, if neptune is the strongest factor between the two, it could lead to a very unhappy couple. a lot like the obama hype. he was the messiah and at the time, jupiter, neptune and chiron were all in conjunction so everyone chanted the phrase for that stellium: 'hope'... now, a year later, we're not seeing a lot of that anymore. basically, the same thing. and perhaps even more so since in your situation, chiron is also involved.

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