posted February 02, 2010 11:39 AM         

The partners do not have kite aspect patterns in their chart natally.

posted February 02, 2010 12:52 PM         

I think it depends on how many objects you include.
If we just consider the planets in a reasonable orb (say: 3 degrees), then it is of course very rare.

If we are considering a lot of asteroids, it is still very telling I think, but not so rare anymore.

If using asteroids I would only considere those from the same theme-group.

The planets involved in the two kite`s configuration wouldn`t act independently from each other - they would be very closely interlinked.

I would look for the housepositions and rulerships, too, especially for the two oppositions, as these are the "backbone" of this configuration and the trine / sextile acts as some sort of a cushion.

posted February 03, 2010 05:37 AM         

By the way I was only looking at planets.. haven't even analysed the asteroids yet except I had a quick look and Vesta/Juno/Mercury conjunction is conjuncting the other's Valentine.

I can't do angular synastry because I don't know the time of birth

Person 1: C
Person 2: J

Kite 1:

JNeptune(1 Cap)-CNeptune(28 Sag)-CJupiter (3 Cap)
trine CMercury(0 Virgo)
these trine JMercury (28 Aries)
which opposes JPluto(0Scorp)-CPluto(0Scorp)

Kite 2:

JJupiter(12Cap)-CMoon(0-12 Cap dependent on TOB)
trine CSun(12 Virgo)
trine JVenus (12 Taurus)
which opposes JSaturn(12 Scorpio)-CSaturn(12Scorpio)

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kite 1: CMercury (0 Virgo)-CJuno (28 Leo)- CVesta (29 Leo) conjucnts JValentine (0 Virgo)

But I dont want to get ahead of myself as it's very new. If you hadn't guessed by now it's my own synatsry! lol

I'm pretty excited!!!!

posted February 03, 2010 05:38 AM         

Grand Trine 2:

posted February 03, 2010 06:34 AM         

Note the DW Chiron conjunct NN

Please note the outside time of birth is unknown.

Let me know if there are other asteroids to consider

posted February 03, 2010 10:12 AM         

I was wondering about the kites because we just get along so well and want the same things. Outwardly we appear to be different people, have different interests (he's not interested in astrology for example) though we both love to garden/be outside .. and we want to achieve a lot in this life - the same things - he has his head screwed on right and he thinks I do too... he's smart and we are both working, but also working towards our degrees (we both have this inner desire for a degree lol) and we just really get along well.

It's strange as I didn't really see him like that in the 10 years I've known him! Very sudden and I have a good feeling about it

We also have a Merc Neptune trine DW.

I wonder why the attraction was never really from the start.

Venus opposite Saturn ... this is a good indicater of wanting to see each other but other things getting in the way. He works 4 weeks away, one week back (which will make that taking it slow thing easier). It's only for a year at this stage though.

It's only new but I couldn't wait to analyse it anyway kekeke

posted February 03, 2010 11:30 AM         

Chiron/NN-DW - that one is very interesting. You are destined to heal each other?
Well, probably you will make each other face your own wounds first, but if you let it, healing could take place for both of you.

It`s a shame you don`t know his exact birthminute, cause until we know we don`t know if you have a second kite, as his Moon could be out of range.

The 2nd Grand trime seems to signify your friendship, as both Mercury`s are involved. With Jupiter and Neptune in the mix, there could be a very generous compassionate aspect to it. Maybe you even have some sort of pyschic antennas for each other.

But for a romantic relationship I would like the 1st Grand trine as it includes the all important Sun, Moon and Venus with Jupiter - this looks like a very gentle, harmonious, happy combination to me.

But where is the Kite?

It seems to include:

his SAturn in Scorpio in your 9th house,
your Saturn in Scorpio in your 9th house

Your Venus in Taurus in your 3rd house

HIs Moon and your Jupiter in Cappy in your 11th house

his Sun and your Karma in Virgo in your 7th house

Hmm let me contemplate this for a bit.

posted February 03, 2010 12:10 PM         

The Venus-Saturn-opposition actually doesn`t look so easy to me. There is the possibility that the Saturn-partners can be too critical of the Venus-partner and Venus can feel rejected, probably in intellectual ways here (as it overlays your 3rd- 9th axis). On the other hand it can be very binding, too, and being indicative of a relationship that will develop very slowly and carefully, but with great depth (Scorpio is involved here).
There is just that risk of feeling hurt, rejected.

posted February 03, 2010 09:57 PM         

Much appreciated analysis! I will try and get his birth time soon, it could be harder because he will ask me why. I just want to casually bring it up so it's not like I am obsessed with his birth time for astrological purposes lol
In the case of ASCs and physical appearance I think he has quite a cancer face.. round.. and smiley. Blue eyes and brown hair. If that is the case then That would place his Moon at either 0 Cap or 12 Cap.

Chiron/NN-DW - that one is very interesting. You are destined to heal each other?
Well, probably you will make each other face your own wounds first, but if you let it, healing could take place for both of you.

We had a discussion just as I was posting this last night. He said he understands what I have been through in the past with guys and doesn't want to hurt me by moving to fast. I don't want to hurt him either because he has had troubles in the past with girlfriends leaving him because he works away... I am the sort of person who is patient and will wait around/not cheat like what has happened in the past.

But where is the Kite?

There are two kites.

Can you not see them?

I wrote the planets involved previously:

Kite 1:

JNeptune(1 Cap)-CNeptune(28 Sag)-CJupiter (3 Cap)
trine CMercury(0 Virgo)
these trine JMercury (28 Aries)
which opposes JPluto(0Scorp)-CPluto(0Scorp)

Kite 2:

JJupiter(12Cap)-CMoon(0-12 Cap dependent on TOB)
trine CSun(12 Virgo)
trine JVenus (12 Taurus)
which opposes JSaturn(12 Scorpio)-CSaturn(12Scorpio)

It looks to me like a very karmic thing, with both your Saturns involved and the very tight / exact Sun-Karma-conjunction.
It all falls into your 9th, 3rd, 7th and 11th house - so themes of friendship and communication and learnng / expanding of horizons are emphasised.
We have good communication and he doesn't like to mince words or read between the lines. Thats why we sorted out the whole 'where do we stand' and he asked me how I was feeling etc. And we found out we are on the same page which is very nice !

The Venus-Saturn-opposition actually doesn`t look so easy to me. There is the possibility that the Saturn-partners can be too critical of the Venus-partner and Venus can feel rejected, probably in intellectual ways here (as it overlays your 3rd- 9th axis). On the other hand it can be very binding, too, and being indicative of a relationship that will develop very slowly and carefully, but with great depth (Scorpio is involved here).
There is just that risk of feeling hurt, rejected.

I read somewhere that it means you can't see each other as often as you want due to other commitments. I am very busy and he works 4 weeks away and one week back. Should test us a bit I think but we're wanting to give it a go. On the week he is back I will be working full time and I have other commitments after work during the week.
Venus Saturn opp seems much easier to handle than my last three big relationships which all had Venus square Saturn.

I have a Venus-Saturn opposition natally so I totally understand that energy.

ETA: I am expecting criticism anyway as he is a Virgo LOL ... I'm used to Virgo pickiness as my dad's one....