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vertiver
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posted February 04, 2010 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
How is ones emotional nature when their moon is not aspected by any planets, its only conjunct the MC. This particular person also has Aries Moon...

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posted February 04, 2010 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message

See what I mean, only the Sun and Moon are semi-sextile and a minor aspect to the NN and Chiron.

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posted February 04, 2010 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Makes expression of the planet more pronounced. For example i have a friend with an unaspected sun and she is definitely egotistical. I would say that an unaspected moon makes someone more emotional or moody.

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posted February 04, 2010 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I have a friend with an unaspected Sun,and he is definitely not egotistical. He is rather humble,mild-mannered, and shy. Because of that,I feel comfortable with him. I don't feel intimidated by him. His Sun is in Libra.

I guess that it really depends on what else is going on in the chart.

I agree that an unaspected Moon might be very emotional. I'd also look to see if Moon aspects other things besides planets like the big transneptunians (the can of worms was opened with the use of Pluto which is a transneptunian) like Eris,Makemake,Haumea,Sedna,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,and Ixion....even Huya and Chaos. There are some big ones that are not named yet, especially 2007 OR10 which is the largest unnamed object in our solar system. Chiron has over 60 fellow centaurs too,and 12 of them have names. 2 of them are larger than Chiron too.
Midpoint pictures involving the Moon might also give insight into one's emotional nature.

His Moon squares the Heliocentric Pluto Nodes which move up to 1 degree per century. That's similar to Moon square Pluto, but it is more pronounced and linked to collective Pluto energy. That's using only 1 degree for major aspects to heliocentric transneptunian nodes.

I don't know what degree,minute his heliocentric Pluto Nodes are because of concealed birthdata

but currently
heliocentric Pluto Nodes are in 20'26 Cancer/Capricorn

Raymond

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posted February 04, 2010 12:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
Glaucus, I looked up some of the Transneptunians you listed and the only aspect I found was Eris widely conjunct his moon (4' orb).

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posted February 04, 2010 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"Glaucus, I looked up some of the Transneptunians you listed and the only aspect I found was Eris widely conjunct his moon (4' orb)."

There is a possibility that they could be conjunct in Right Ascension which is equatorial longitude. Declination is equatorial latitude.


Transneptunians like Pluto and Eris tend to orbit well away from the ecliptic (high inclination), and so there can be significant differences involving these objects. You could say that they are divergent objects. The only reason that Pluto was discovered in 1930 was that it was on the ecliptic at the time. Makemake was just 2 degrees away from the ecliptic,but it wasn't discovered until 2005. When I was born, Pluto was 14 degrees away from the ecliptic. Currently,Pluto is 5 degrees away from the ecliptic.

Aspects that seem wide or non-existent in the regular coordinate (ecliptical longitude chart) could actually be in aspect in Right Ascension. In another thread (Problems letting go), I pointed out that the thread originator's wide Moon square Pluto of over 5 degree orb was Moon square Pluto within 2 degrees in the Right Ascension chart. I have Sun oppose Sedna over 3 degree orb in the regular chart,and it's 44 minutes of arc in Right Ascension. My Pluto is no way near a trine to Midheaven with it being over 9 degree orb. In Right Ascension, I have Pluto trine Midheaven within 3 degree orb.


you can go to this site to calculate Right Ascension. You just have to check the RA box which stands for Right Ascension. http://www.true-node.com/pos/

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posted February 04, 2010 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
Oh wow, Glaucus, I just calculated his Right Ascension Moon at 17' Aries and RA Ceres is at 19' Aries, so his Moon is conjunct Ceres in RA, how would you interpret this aspect?

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posted February 04, 2010 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
Also his Moon is conjunct his Venus-Mars midpoint.

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posted February 04, 2010 01:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"Oh wow, Glaucus, I just calculated his Right Ascension Moon at 17' Aries and RA Ceres is at 19' Aries, so his Moon is conjunct Ceres in RA, how would you interpret this aspect?"

Wow...very cool. Ceres is the asteroid dwarf planet named after the Roman Goddess of the Harvest. The Roman counterpart of Demeter. She had lost her daughter Proserpina/Persephone to Pluto/Hades, and so she had problems letting go after years of holding on to her. The myth about the empty nest, girl becoming a woman. She was forced to share Proserpina/Persephone with Pluto. So when Proserpina/Persephone was with her, Spring and Summer occured. When she was Pluto/Hades, Fall and Winter occured which symbolized Ceres' grief,problems letting go and holding onto her daughter.

Ceres seems to have to do with nurturing,food,letting go/holding on matters. It's a strong feminine energy too. It can be another significator for the mother just Saturn is another significator for the father. Both Ceres and Saturn are both named after agricultural deities too.
Ceres glyph looks like an upside down Saturn glyph.

with the Moon conjunct Ceres, emotional nature,mother is involved with those things. There is a possibility of being strongly influenced by the mother in some way, and there could be issues of letting go/holding on. There can be an instinct to be nurturing and protective, and even too much so that he could appear possessive,clingy,and controlling. It can be good for being practical for Ceres is earthy in its nature. Ceres/Demeter was an Earth Goddess. It seems to have some similarities with Virgo too. The Virgo constellation was viewed by the Greeks as Demeter too.

Moon conjunct Ceres
You are a natural nurturer, a true Earth Mother type, likely having a strong interest in growing and preparing food. You have very close bonds with your children, whether of the flesh or of the heart, and will go to any lengths to provide for their needs. You might suffer the pain of separation from them at some time, and feel devastated by the loss. You have a big heart and may come to feel that all people are your children. http://members.wizzards.net/~magyan/Moon_Aspects.html


Ceres is rather unique in that it's the only asteroid that is classed as a dwarf planet. No asteroid comes near its size of 950 km in diameter. The only objects that are larger than Ceres are various transneptunians including some that are already classed as dwarf planets alongside with Ceres. Eris,Pluto,Makemake,Haumea are all classed as dwarf planets. Sedna,Orcus,and Quaoar are larger than Ceres too, but they are not classed as dwarf planets yet. 2007 0R10 "Snow White" is also larger than Ceres,but it has no official name yet.

Ceres is a prototype planet(planetary embryo) too, and it has significant amounts of water ice.

It was once classed as a planet along with Pallas,Juno,and Vesta for 40 years until other objects like it were discovered,and they were assigned to a new category at the time - asteroids.

The new planet and dwarf planet criteria led to the astronomical promotion of Ceres and the astronomical demotion of Pluto which stemmed from the discovery of Eris and it being larger than Pluto. It was like equal rights for women for Ceres and Pluto were now equals because of Eris, but the status quo had to be challenged. It makes sense that NOW National Organization of Women was founded during Sun conjunct Heliocentric South Eris Node in Scorpio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceres_%28dwarf_planet%29

Raymond

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posted February 04, 2010 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the interpretation, Glaucus!

I noticed that were opposites in a lot of ways in the sense that whatever is yin in his chart I have Yang, which I suppose should be the opposite with in a Male-female relationship.

For example his Moon is conjunct Ceres in RA and in RA my Mars is conjunct Ceres. Also he has feminine Sun (Pisces)-I have masculine Sun (Leo), I have feminine moon (Pisces) he has masculine (Aries), I have both masculine Venus and Mars (Gemini/Aries) and he has feminine Venus and Mars (Taurus/Taurus), etc... I'm not sure if this is relevant or not...

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posted February 04, 2010 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vertiver     Edit/Delete Message
Also T. RA Juno is Conjunct his natal RA moon at the moment, and he met me, hmmm... coincidence I think not!

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posted February 04, 2010 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maira     Edit/Delete Message
I'm interested!
My Taurus moon is also a singleton, in the 8th, conjunct Chiron.

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posted February 04, 2010 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"Also T. RA Juno is Conjunct his natal RA moon at the moment, and he met me, hmmm... coincidence I think not!"

I don't think so either. I pay attention to RA transits regularly now. Heck..when I found out that my mother was hospitalized last December,transiting RA Saturn was exactly opposite my RA Moon/Saturn midpoint, forming a yod with my RA Moon sextile Sedna of 49 minutes of arc.

transits can seem to start earlier and/or last longer with the combination of ecliptic longitude and Right Ascension.


Raymond

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