posted February 04, 2010 12:50 PM         

ie cap being opposite cancer, it seems to be flushing out the collective shadows of various families i know. anyone else noticed this kind of manifestation? or would it be linked to my cancerian uranus which is caught in the crossfire between saturn and pluto right now?

posted February 04, 2010 01:00 PM         

And just see how governments are trying to gain even MORE control over individual people. Again, very Pluto in Capricorn-like.

I can`t help but feel the earthquakes may be an expression, too. I mean Capricorn IS an earth sign after all, Pluto is living below the earth and now he comes up to pay us a visit. And well, if he comes for a visit, the earth is breaking up.

Maybe there could be vulcanic eruptions, too, but probably only if there was a strong fire-constellation at the same time.

posted February 04, 2010 01:14 PM         

but family dynamics including all the usually hidden undercurrents(pluto) and attitudes to familial duty(saturn) seem to be cropping up everywhere in families i know, including to some extent mine...tho in mine the actual incidents are fairly mild the reaction on the part of some members has been over the top fear!

then there's the old family friend who has just told me about some almost unbelievable undercover stuff to do with his family...he found out about it years ago but i am just NOW made aware of it.

posted February 04, 2010 01:20 PM         

Pluto was discovered when Pluto was conjunct its heliocentric North Pluto Node in Cancer.
Hitler coming to power and World War 2 happened during that conjunction too. Psychoanalysis.

Pluto was also on the ecliptic during its discovery which made it possible for it be discovered by astronomers who only looked at objects on the ecliptic. Makemake was the only transneptunian that might have been discovered. It was on 2 degrees away from the ecliptic but it was hidden behind a backdrop of stars. It didn't get discovered until 2005, the same year as Eris.

currently

the heliocentric Pluto Nodes are in 20'26 Cancer/Capricorn

I checked the Ephemeris when Pluto gets to 20 degrees

Pluto enters 20 degree Capricorn on December 14, 2018
at the time, heliocentric Pluto Nodes in 20'33 Cancer/Capricorn

I would hate to see what happens when Eris conjunct its heliocentric North Node in Taurus

currently,
the Heliocentric Eris Nodes are in 6'10 Taurus/Scorpio

Eris enters 6 degrees Taurus on June 8, 2069
at the time, heliocentric Eris Nodes in 6'56 Taurus/Scorpio

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 04, 2010 09:00 PM         

There is a Solar Eclipse on July 11, 2010

Solar Eclipse in 19'23 Cancer

conjunct Geocentric North Pluto Node in 20'25 Cancer
oppose Geocentric South Pluto Node in 20'29 Capricorn
conjunct/oppose Heliocentric Pluto Nodes in 20'26 Cancer/Capricorn

those are collective Plutonian energies

The Eclipse conjunct,opposing the geocentric,heliocentric Pluto Nodes is a very strong connection to collective Plutonian energies

an intense,transformative, evolutionary intensified time

my Secondary Progressed/Solar Arc Midheaven will be in 20'14 Cancer, and so conjunct,oppose the geocentric,heliocentric Pluto Nodes, and will be conjuncted by the Solar Eclipse. Transformation indeed!

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 04, 2010 09:03 PM         

The eclipse of july is in 19 cancer, not scorpio. I double checked. We won't have a scorpio eclipse for some time. Maybe you meant to write 19 cancer??

posted February 04, 2010 09:06 PM         

I had Dyslexic moment. hahahaha

sorry

I was referring to the Solar Eclipse on July 11, 2010.

I corrected my post.

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 07, 2010 02:41 PM         

capricorn is the billy goat. hence, the goat on the mountain. it doesnt represent the goat on the pasture. think in terms of rulership. the guys at the top (ie. ceo's. politicians. bankers. etc) are the ones that are feeling the pluto and is where pluto is taking names. focusing on cancer at the moment and cancer related things, is not something u may want to do or you'll find yourself stuck in a rut. play out the north node in capricorn by doing capricorn things. not to the extent that it becomes so plutonic and saturanian that u lose all values but to the extent that it propels life positively in the future. the billy goat plans its steps on the mountain very carefully. cancer is ruled by the moon. which represents the mother. so think in terms of the past. where u've come from. let some of that cancer stuff go. slights. emotional manipulation. and move forward in a steady fashion securing a future not only for yourself, but for everybody. there can be no mountain without a sturdy foundation. with no mountain, you have no destination.

i'd also like to point out that capricorns ruler, (albeit squaring pluto) is currently exalted. really, theres no reason to make excuses and no reason why you shouldnt easily grasp the things that are required of you to do. for the next two years, relationships take the lead.

posted February 07, 2010 03:08 PM         

and yes i think the main impact of pluto in capricorn is going to be forcing the structures, infrastructures etc of govt and big business to be overhauled in some significant way. as during the last transit when america forced the british to sign a new contract as it were, and changed the structure of government here AND there.

it also probably affects infrastructures, many of which around the world are showing their weak spots as we speak...haiti being a dramatic example.

posted February 09, 2010 12:17 PM         

The Lunar Nodes in 20'54 Capricorn/Capricorn
are currently opposing the Heliocentric Pluto Nodes in 20'26 Cancer/Capricorn

so South Lunar Node conjunct Heliocentric North Pluto Node in Cancer and North Lunar conjunct Heliocentric South Pluto Node in Capricorn

February 17th, the lunar and heliocentric nodal axises will be exactly opposite each other

definitely a time for transformation

I also couldn't help noticing the following configurations on that day:

exact Neptune-Chiron conjunction
Sun-true Black Moon Lilith conjunction

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"