posted February 04, 2010 04:48 PM         

Is it even valid?

I looked at mine with someone and it surprised me.

his vedic/my tropical
sun/ac cj (1)
moon/briede-groom MP (0)
venus/mercury cj (2)
mars/vertex cj (1)
pluto/kaali cj (0)
NN/groom cj (0)
karma/valentine opp (0)
valentine/pluto cj (1)
cupid/boda cj (0)
eros/lilith cj (0)
psyche/valentine opp (2)
union/IC cj (0)
amor/lust cj (0)
IC/chiron cj (2)
MC/eros cj (1)

my VEDIC/his TROPICAL
sun/valentine opp (1)
moon and venus/NN cj (3)
mars/IC cj (1)
saturn/NN cj (2)
NN/NN cj (2)
aphrodite/moon cj (2)
cupid/sun-moon MP cj (1)
eros/union cj (1)
psyche/cupid cj (1)
union/IC cj (2)
AC/moon cj (3)

What does it mean with vedic/tropical interaction?

posted February 04, 2010 05:11 PM         

"But aren't they both pointing at different positions in the sky? So that a conjunction between a sidereal chart and a tropical chart aren't actual conjuntions, since the same degree in the same sign between both charts actually means different positions in the sky."

Exactly.

But then again we look at composites, which are no "real" charts either.

Lara,

posted February 04, 2010 05:17 PM         

his vedic/my tropical
his sun/my lilith cj (0)
his sun/my isis/mars cj (1)
his moon/my valentine opp (2)
his venus/my eros opp (0)
his saturn/my boda cj (1)
his NN/ my atlantis (2) destinn cj (3)
his juno/my sun cj (1)
his destinn/my AC cj (0)
his aphrodite/my destinn opp (0)
his valentine/my surname (0)
his cupid/my valentine opp (2)
his eros/my boda opp (0)
his psyche/my saturn/NN opp (1)
his union/my proserpina cj (1)
his amor/my AC cj (4) frigga (0)
his AC/my moon/venus opp (2)

posted February 04, 2010 05:19 PM         

It seems to be quite interesting... completion of karm? hmm
Well that makes sense looking at my Twin Flame and my aspects!!!

posted February 04, 2010 05:21 PM         

Maybe I should. Especially in regard to these two musical actors and Jude. There is probably heavy karma involved, or I would never have gotten the awareness of them.

Actually Blashke speaks of the four dimensions of reality.

Tropical: physical manifestation plane

Draconic: soulcontracts, often familyoriented, anchestry (I think, probably this also includes soulfamilies)

sidereal: completion of karma

posted February 04, 2010 06:06 PM         

quote:

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But then again we look at composites, which are no "real" charts either.

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posted February 04, 2010 06:26 PM         

His sidereal Sun/Moon is conjunct my Jupiter, opposed my Pluto, and square my Saturn (as well as sextile my moon/venus). It's also conjunct my sidereal Sun... sidereal Mars/saturn in Gemini, conjunct my Moon/venus/node/vertex, square Mars, sextile Jupiter and trine Pluto. Sidereal Jupiter conjunct my 4th house cusp.

posted February 05, 2010 01:44 AM         

I think he used Fagan / Bradley.

posted February 05, 2010 02:54 AM         

I am inclined to agree with Blaschke, as there is a pattern of event completion when a planet's sidereal position reaches the tropical position. You will notice this in a simple way: Visualization/Manifestation exercises.

Emotional Reality Visualizations for simple things in life will occur within 2 days because the Sidereal Moon reaches the tropical point in 2 days [24 degrees approx].
Certain material objects desired will take 3-4 weeks, that is the Venus Sidereal coming to Venus Tropical in transit.
Bigger and sincere plans needing hard work will manifest in a couple of years, that is the Saturn movement of 24 degrees.

Again, this is from my personal experience that helped me understand Blaschke's theories.

posted February 05, 2010 02:59 AM         

I never really understand what "completion of karma" means; does that mean that if two people have strong sidereal-tropical synastry, they come togeter, fulfill whatever karmic lessons there are, and then separate forever?

Or does it just mean that they get the opportunity to complete their karma and then either move on separately or move on together, depending if they are of the same soulfamily / twinflames etc. ?

posted February 05, 2010 04:22 AM         

My sidereal NN is conjunct someone else`s SN, so I am interested in the answer, too.

posted February 05, 2010 09:09 AM         

quote:

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In some cases, for example, this
could be accomplished by the astrologer explaining to a client how her Tropical
Venus in Scorpio would produce painful losses in relationship that are evolving her
personality and character; while at the same time her Sidereal Venus in Libra shows
that on a soul level, she has a deep, innate understanding of how her karma is being
balanced by going through these relational endings during the current lifetime.

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Hmm so let's see.. tropical NN conjunct sidereal NN might show that the tropical person's path will also help the sidereal person's path? For example, I have Taurus tropical NN, and Aries sidereal NN. On the physical plane, my path is to achieve a sense of joy and security of life, while I'm solving my karma through forming my own identity. So when someone else's tropical NN is conjunct my sidereal NN, this person's life path might help me to solve my karma related to my NN.

So if this theory is valid, then me and my bf are helping each other to solve some karma. His sJuno conjunct my tSun and my sJuno is opposed to his tMoon tightly, so this might show that we can help each other solve some relationship karma (through him I'm learning to deal with my relationship karma, and through me he's learning to deal with his relationship karma).

Other aspects (sidereal to tropical):

- my Valentine conjunct his Saturn (1º56');
- my Destinn conjunct his Sun (1º37);
- my Sun conjunct his Moon (3º32' - too wide?);
- my Psyche conjunct his Moon (<1º);
- my NN conjunct his Juno (<1º);

- his Chiron conjunct my Mars (<2º);
- his IC conjunct my NN (<2º);
- his NN conjunct my NN (<4º - too wide?);
- his Psyche conjunct my SN (0º05');
- his Eros conjunct my AC (<2º).

Between me and my best friend:

- her Union oppose my Moon/Venus;
- her Karma conjunct my IC;
- her Mars conjunct my AC - I help her karma related to actions?;
- her Chiron conjunct my NN - my pursuit of my life's path helps her to deal with her karma related to pain/wounds?;
- her BML conjunct my Moon/Venus;

posted February 05, 2010 09:29 AM         

"Then maybe in the sidereal-torpical synastry, the tropical person helps the sidereal person in his/her completion of karma?"

Yes, that is what I am thinking, too.

I have had a look at the synastry with Jude.

his sidereal to my tropical (which may play no role, as we don`t know each other, so how could I help him solve his Karma?)

his s Moon conjunct my Midheaven exactly
his s ASC conjunct my Moira and London (0)
his s NN conjunct my Sun and Mercury (2)
his s Jupiter conjunct my Sun and MErcury (2)
his s Karma conjunct my Valentine exact
his s Valentine conjunct my SN (2)
his s Eros conjunct my Psyche! (2)
his s Ceres conjunct my Union (1)
his s Briede conjunct my Moira -and London- (1)
his s Groom conjunct my Juno (0)
his s Isis conjunct my Saturn (2)
his s Isis conjunct my Vertex (2)
his s Osiris conjunct my SN (1)
his s Boda conjunct my Eros exact
his s Boda conjunct my Vertex (1)
his s Boda conjunct my Destinn (2)
his s Aura conjunct my ASC exact
his s Aura conjunct my NN (3)
his s Aura conjunct my Angel, Lust, Atlantis, Ireland

my sidereal to his tropical (those are the ones that probably could be in effect, as he definitely could have an effect on me, even without knowing me):

my s Sun conjunct his Juno exact
my s Sun conjunct his Mars (3)
my s Moon opposite his Vertex (1)
my s DESC conjunct his Moira (3)

- now that is creepy! Both our sidereal ASC`s/ DESC`s are conjunct each other`s Moira

my s ASC conjunct his Psyche (2)
my s Venus conjunct his ASC (3)
my s Venus conjunct his Venus (0)
my s Juno conjunct his Amor (0)
- interestingly my tropical Amor is exactly conjunct his tropical Juno, too

my s Amor conjunct his Psyche (3)
- in tropical his Amor is conjunct my Psyche

my s Amor opposite his MOira (1)
my s Briede exactly conjuncts his Eros
my s Groom conjuncts his Spirit (2)
my s NN conjuncts his Spirit (1)
my s Boda conjuncts his ASC exact
my S Boda conjuncts his Venus (2)

posted February 06, 2010 06:55 AM         

1. Tropical- tropical for what is, and the actual relationship in the physical

2. Draco - tropical for the soulcontract

3. sidereal - tropical for the karmic completion

4. heliocentric - tropical for the Higher Self-relationship, the "Grand plan / design"

Funny though, I just realized:
my Helio Angel is on 2 Sagittarius
my sidreal Sun is on 2 Sagittarius

all triggering my tropical Amor on 2 Sagittarius

So it is through unconditional love that I can get in touch with my Higher Self as well as it has a karmic component.

And now interestingly:

Jude`s Juno, mean BML and Sun-Moon-mp are all on 2 Sagittarius.

P`s Draco Sun is on 1 Sagittarius

A`s tropical Amor is on 3 Sagittarius.

I got to meditate on these I think.

posted February 08, 2010 06:56 AM         

Taking this to the Nodes, it would imply that the Tropical person's best actions/thoughts that help in Spiritual Self Actualization would manifest as real time events that help the Spiritual Self Actualization of the Sidereal NN person.
Example: Tropical NN person thinks of team sports to improve, Sidereal NN Person may have joined a team at that moment or received inspiration watching a live cricket match.