posted February 05, 2010 09:09 PM            

there is

asteroid Lilith
Dark Moon Lilith
Black Moon Lilith (lunar apogee) ,and there are various versions - mean,true,corrected

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 05, 2010 09:34 PM              

I have always been defiant in the face of authority, to the bitter end with no apologies on my part.

posted February 05, 2010 10:23 PM            

I have transneptunian object and transneptunian astronomical point conjunct my Sun-true Black Moon Lilith within 1 degree

Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio - second chances,understanding karmic wheel,lust,matters of gratitude
Geocentric South Eris Node in 5'29 Scorpio - collective karmic connections involving diversity,equality,controversy,discord
Heliocentric South Eris Node in 5'30 Scorpio - collective karmic connections involving diversity,equality,controversy,discord

from the Canopus program:

Sun-Black Moon conjunction:
Being conjunct to the Sun makes the Black Moon extremely powerful. Especially (but not only) in a female chart, a major aspect of Black Moon to the Sun tends to create a 'Lilith character': strong-willed, stubborn, independent mind and lover of freedom, original, non conformist, rebellious, passionately disliking routines and enslavement at large. Lilith was the woman who did not need Adam and left him - not a common thing to do in early biblical times - one reason being that she bluntly refused to lie under him during lovemaking.

There is a profound need to go beyond limitations of all kinds. This, naturally, leads the native to challenge establishment. At times, it will create difficulties; a Lilith character does not hesitate to tell her/his boss what she/he thinks of him, and can't give a damn about consequences once she/he has made up her mind to do something.

The eyes shine, at times defiantly. The personality is sharp, with a marked taste for intensity. This, in Clairvision language, corresponds to violent astrality - venom in large measure!

There are strong likes and dislikes, and a tendency to know immediately whether one likes someone or not. This may have to do with the profound insights into the psychological motivations of other people. Being herself/himself so well in touch with her/his shadow, the native has a fine understanding of other people's psyche.

A Lilith character is often subtle, with a great sense of nuances, and an EXTREME sensitivity.

Problems with the father:
With this aspect, it is not rare to find that the native had major problems with the father (especially in the chart of a female). Either the father was absent, or perceived as absent, or was fought against. There is likely to be some deeply rooted wound in the psyche, relating to the father, with profound consequences on the whole organisation of the personality. In symbolical terms this conflict with the father goes far beyond childhood scenarios. It is the father image, in its widest meaning, which is involved here. Think of Lilith, angry at God for making her subjected to Adam's authority (and patriarchal establishment at large), and lamenting, "How could He [God the Father] do that to me?"
It is the same wound that you are carrying. It was so deep that it never healed.

When experienced on its highest level, a major aspect of Black Moon to the Sun can make the native quite psychic: premonitory dreams, intuition, natural affinity with the hidden mysteries of life, and clairvoyance.

I can totally relate to the Canopus Clairvision interpretation.

I am a male with strong female traits,and I am a feminist that believe in gender equality. I am attracted to feminists,and my exgirlfriend was one,and she is the daughter of man-hating feminist.

My father was absent(I never knew him),and I fought against my stepfather too. He was very controlling and domineering. I haven't seen him since I was 18 years old. My mother wised up and threw him out. I am a nonconformist,and I have butt heads with both my parents (my mother and stepfather) as well as superiors at work including the Navy.

my mother seems very Lilith-like too...both good and bad.

I also had numerous dreams of succubus. It makes me wonder if succubus actually visited me,but I am afraid to admit it.

so the Lilith theme plays bigtime in my life

I like Juan Revilla's take on Black Moon Lilith

he explains it from the mythological and astronomical view http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/blackmoon/lilith.html

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 06, 2010 11:42 AM            

Also is the one on Astro at 29'19" Scorpio the mean or true Black Moon Lilith? It is conjunct my Uranus at 26'53" Scorpio.

Raymond, if you don't mind, can you give me an interpretation of BML conjunct Uranus from your software?

posted February 06, 2010 11:44 AM            

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 07, 2010 04:57 PM            

You're damned right I asked which Lilith! After all, she asked about Lilith. There are 3 Liliths which are the asteroid 1181 Lilith,the hypothetical dark moon Lilith, and the lunar apogee Lilith.

Also there are 3 versions of black moon lilith. Some astrologers use the mean black moon. Some astrologers use the true black moon. Some astrologers use the corrected black moon. There are disagreements about which black moon to use. I am not even sure if calling black moon "Lilith" is even necessary. All it is the farthest point of the Moon orbit from the Earth. Apogee of any object is the farthest point of an object's orbit from the Earth. My Mercury is conjunct its own apogee. Therefore, I was born when Mercury near its most distant point from the Earth. Perigree of any object is the closest point of an object's orbit from the Earth. Aphelion of an object is the farthest point of an object's orbit from the Sun. My heliocentric Mercury is conjuncts its aphelion,and so I was born when the heliocentric Mercury was near its most distant point from the Sun. Perihelion of an object is the closest point of an object's orbit from the Sun.

Astrologers don't go around calling the apogee nor the aphelion of planets "black planets"

Like Juan Revilla, I believe that calling the Black Moon" Lilith is taking away from its lunar symbolism. He even believes that the centaurs named after mythological female characters fit the Lilith symbolism. I also agree with him that true Black Moon Lilith fits with Lilith because of its erratic orbit which fits with the Moon unlike the mean Black Moon Lilith whose perfectly circular orbit fits with the Sun. This an astrologer that doesn't get keywords by the mythology name of an object but by the astronomical,orbital features of an object. He is one of the few astronomically oriented astrologers. He,Philip Sedgwick,and Melanie Reinhart are bridging the gap between Astronomy and Astrology. They even have submitted names for centaur objects that have been accepted by astrologers. The first one was Nessus. http://www.expreso.co.cr/centaurs/blackmoon/lilith.html

Who the hell are you to tell anybody to back away from asteroids! You don't own anybody in here! You certainly don't own me! From my experience, strong Lilith types don't like being told what to do with their rebellious,nonconformist natures. They tend to be the "you don't own me...I am not your slave" types. That's how I am...especially with my Sun-true Black Moon-South Eris Node (Geo,Helio) conjunction.
I don't see how anybody has to back away from asteroids. It seems like a majority that post in the forum are into asteroids. I definitely am, but I am more into transneptunians now. That's my main interest right now.

that's my retort from my Sun conjunct true Black Moon Lilith in Scorpio which is also the sign of my asteroid and dark Moon Lilith.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 07, 2010 07:50 PM            

I've done a pretty comprehensive study on all the Liliths and will share the info I've compiled in my next post - hopefully it will help those who have a hard time understanding her, see what she's all about.

posted February 07, 2010 08:14 PM            

Lilith is one of the most ancient aspects of the Great Goddess.

She inhabits the astral or psychic plane, the middle region around the spine which connects the snake (kundalini) and the bird (consciousness).

Lilith show that the energies of destruction can be transmuted and taken up into creative destructuring of the old civilization, already outgrown.
Imagine Lilith as the deep-rooted Shekinah, like the roots of the tree seeking sustinance in the soil, while Sophia is the sky-reaching branches and fruits.
Lilith challenges both men and women to connect with their instinctive passion for life, for this natural force if denied, unfulfilled, caged or exiled, turns destructive.

Lilith is sometimes referred to as the "hand of Innana" or the "mirror opposite of Innana", also, "the Maid of Desolution" who dances in the ruins of cities and "the little girl left out". Other names include: Anthichthon, Agrat, Mahalat and Druj.

She is also associated with the fixed star Agol in the constellation of Perseus, the most evil star, also called the eye/head of Medusa.

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Lilith was originally the Sumerian Queen of Heaven, A Goddess older than Inanna. The Hebrews took the Goddess and transformed her into the first wife of Adam, who refused to lie beneath him when having intercourse. She insisted that because they were created equal, they needed to have sex equally. When Adam refused, she left him. Thereafter, in Jewish mythology, she was described as a demon.

The Lessons of this Goddess:

Lilith appears to tell you to take back your power.. Where are the places you have lost or given away your power? What beliefs do you hold that deny your power? Have you been told that powerful women never find mates? Or that women can't have power because that would make them unfeminine? Have you been teased, shunned, ostracized by others when you've stepped into your power? Are you afraid of misusing your power to dominate or maniputlate? The Goddess says that the way to wholeness for you now lies in acknowledging that you're not connecting with your power, then second coming to terms with and accepting your power.

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The Dark Goddess:

In the beginning was the Great Goddess, and the Goddess was the Earth, and the Earth was the Goddess. The origins of the cult of the Great Goddess lie hidden in the dim twilight of prehistoric time. The Goddess ruled for hundreds of thousands of years. In the course of time, the Mother-Goddess was overthrown and driven under, and the triumph of the most patriarchal of archetypes - Jahwe, God the Father, Allah - was complete in the Judaic, Christian and Moslem worlds. It was only in the tamed form of Mary, Mother of God, that some aspects of the Mother Goddess were permitted to survive. Various Black Madonnas in ancient sanctuaries still bear witness to her.

The wealth of information available on Lilith indicates considerable fascination and interest in this mythological figure, with numerous versions of her story in both Hebrew and Sumerian. Consort to both the devil and God himself, she is enigmatic and mysterious.

Probably the earliest version of Lilith is from Mesopotamia in the 13-15th centuries BC where she was the Goddess of Death in the form of an owl. She was called Lilith because it means "screech owl". The version of Lilith we know today is as the first wife of Adam, before Eve, although she is not mentioned in the Bible or in ancient Hebrew religious writings. This version seems to come from a medieval writing that purports to be part of Hebrew writings but is not. The writer probably took the older legend and Christianized it by making it part of a Bible story. Lilith became the woman from hell, the anti-female. As the first wife of Adam she refused to be subordinate to him. She refused to lie beneath him in sexual relations. She wanted to lie side by side or on top. When he tried to force her she used her powers to fly away. This part of her story has interested many women today. They like to think of Lilith as a feminist heroine, saying she was courageous and asserting her equality. However, in the original myth she was more a symbol of the psychologically damaged. If you interpret the Liliths in a chart as heroic or admirable it will not be accurate. The Liliths in your chart operate as places where you are having trouble, where you don't fit in with the norm.

According to Hebrew mythology, Lilith was Adam's first wife and was created equal to Adam, created from the ground in the same way that he was. Being his equal, she refused to be subordinate and ultimately left the Garden of Eden. She is the original woman, who refused to be subjugated to a man's desires. After Adam refused to have her as his equal, she ran off in a rage and left the Garden of Eden. Some accounts say that she flew away. After leaving Eden she lived in caves near the Red Sea where she took up with demons she desired and mated with many of them. At first, Adam was upset and prayed to God to bring her back. God sent three angels named Sanvi, Sansanvi, and Semangilaf to get her to go back to him but she didn't obey, so God started killing her children at the rate of 100 per day. She went mad with grief and, it is said, she would come in the night for her revenge, taking other people's babies and killing them, and giving men wet dreams to sap their strength. Lilith was also a threat to pregnant women and was blamed for causing miscarriages. Thus, she is known as a demoness, the killer of infants in their cradles. Amulets were worn to ward her off (amulets with inscriptions for protection against Lilith are found in museums to this day all over the world).

"Said the Holy One to Adam, 'If she agrees to come back, fine. If not she must permit one hundred of her children to die every day.' The angels left God and pursued Lilith, whom they overtook in the midst of the sea, in the mighty waters wherein the Egyptians were destined to drown. They told her God's word, but she did not wish to return. The angels said, 'We shall drown you in the sea.'
"'Leave me!' she said. 'I was created only to cause sickness to infants. If the infant is male, I have dominion over him for eight days after his birth, and if female, for twenty days.'
"When the angels heard Lilith's words, they insisted she go back. But she swore to them by the name of the living and eternal God: 'Whenever I see you or your names or your forms in an amulet, I will have no power over that infant.' She also agreed to have one hundred of her children die every day. Accordingly, every day one hundred demons perish, and for the same reason, we write the angels' names on the amulets of young children. When Lilith sees their names, she remembers her oath, and the child recovers."

Painful issues surrounding children, birth, unsuitable sexual partners and parts of your life where you just can't function like others do are Lilith issues.

There is nothing more demonstrative of female energy and power than that of giving birth. Lilith sabotages this positive expression of female energy as much as she's a proponent of lust versus love. For example, women who have been subjected to unpleasant birth experiences in hospitals where they are forced to follow unnatural routines, usually devised by men, have encountered a form of Lilith's energy. Lilith is the perpetrator of sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS), abortion, and any type of infanticide. This could even include the increased practice of imposing cesarean sections when a vaginal birth could be safely accomplished, sometimes simply for the doctor's convenience, which not only takes the power of giving birth away from the woman but has been shown to result in more infant deaths than vaginal births. Lilith is vicious and vengeful in the most destructive way, particularly targeting her wrath on women who personify Eve's attitude of submission and the human children they bear.
When Lilith refused to return to Adam, submissive Eve was created from his rib and given to him as his new wife. Lilith was very upset, jealous and angered and, according to some versions of the myth, Lilith turned herself into a snake and returned in the form of a serpent to the garden of Eden where she tempted Eve to eat the apple. It's interesting to note that a substantial amount of artwork represents the infamous snake as part female. Sexual being that she is, is it any wonder that she's personified as the dispenser of the forbidden fruit?

"Awake, O thou whom my soul loveth and come,
Come into my garden, where the spices flow out.
Come into your garden and eat the pleasant fruits.
Come to the temple for the holy rites of love.
Set me as a seal upon thine heart.
Set your soul free."

Her prophecy:
I hurt. I am ill. What is this place where the children live in cement boxes and eat chemicals for food? The land is burning with the raging fires of war. My trees are cut down, ruthlessly uprooted; animals thanklessly consumed; my life blood spilled out for greed. I cannot live here. I must go.... But the flood plains of my heart will pour out over the land and you will hear my voice in the howling winds and the hurricanes in the earthquakes and the volcanoes!

She is also described as:

"A female tiger. She is magnificent, powerful. We treat her with respect, awe, carefully so as not to arouse her anger. She can hurt, but we are allowed to stroke her. Somehow she is surrounded by a round enclosure, trapped. A number of male cats come in and rape her. She is covered in blood after the second. After that, she is left encaged, her heart destroyed. Anyone who approaches her is stopped by a terrible, hateful, warning snarl. She is dangerous, ferocious, destructive, defensive. Why such a royal upbringing to be led to this fate?"

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In the Sumerian version, recorded on clay tablets around 2000 BC, Lilith was a handmaiden of Inanna whose task was to retrieve men from the fields and bring them to the temple at Erech for sacred, sexual customs. She was also portrayed as "the dark maid" who built her home in the trunk of Inanna's hallupu tree, which the queen had rescued from the Euphrates River where it had been uprooted by the South Wind. Hoping to grow it to maturity and then use the wood for a throne and a bed, she tended the tree lovingly. However, ten years later when she hoped to harvest the tree, according to the translation made by Samuel Kramer, this is what happened:

"But in the meantime, she found to her dismay that her hopes could not be fulfilled because during that time a dragon had built its nest at the foot of the tree, the Zu-bird was raising its young in the crown, and the demon Lilith had built her house in the middle. But Gilgamesh, who had heard of Inanna's plight, came to her rescue. He took his heavy shield, killed the dragon with his heavy bronze axe, which weighed seven talents and seven minas. Then the Zu-bird flew into the mountains with its young, while Lilith, petrified with fear, tore down her house and fled into the wilderness."

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Other traditions claim that she became a succubus, a winged woman with talons for feet. Many claim the verse found in Isaiah 34:14 of the Old Testament refers to Lilith when it mentions a screech owl, an alternate translation of her name. There are apparently numerous references to her in the Talmud and Hebrew mystical beliefs as well.

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Lilith is frequently associated with witchcraft and the dark arts, another manifestation of her power. There is no simpler example of this than the story of Snow White. Here we have the evil step-mother/Queen who's trying to destroy the competition, an innocent girl who represents not only beauty, but righteous womanhood, with an apple, no less; no symbolism there. Even more interesting is the fact that the evil Queen was conversing with a mirror since some myths associate Lilith with ruling the land on the other side of the mirror. Note how Snow White used feminine kindness and charm to control seven, miniature men. Another one with Lilith overtones is Sleeping Beauty. Also Endora, Samantha's mother, in the 1960s TV series, "Bewitched."

Lilith magnifies revenge, rage, witches, psychics, the temptress and the shadow. She affects dreams, especially sexual ones, and is an influence in trances, hypnotism, the channeling of entities, interdimensional beings, and possession. During the medieval period, Lilith was the woman of the witches. In the last centuries she has been connected the femme fatale - the sexually powerful woman.

Lilith often represents the dark and frightening side of a woman: the archetype of "other women", the temptress, the femme fatale. She's stainless steel estrogen with a razor's edge, a virtual vortex of lustful, sexual energy with the intense desire to fulfill her driven desires. Any threat or discipline imposed on her sexual self-expression is violently repelled and rejected. Her hatred of men is clearly reflected in the biblical tale of Salome, daughter of Herod, and her means for causing the horrific death by decapitation of John the Baptist.

Lilith is frequently adopted as a patroness by militant women's liberation movements whose goal is to emasculate men. We're not talking about women's rights or fairness here, but the premise that males are the enemy. She uses her sexuality to get what she wants and to manipulate the opposite gender. These are the women that use sexual favors to get through school or obtain high corporate positions. It's feminine mystique gone bad as Lilith abhors sex in it's proper place as a means of emotional expression between two caring partners and/or to create life.

This is the opposite pole from the stance maintained by Juno as the representation of the dedicated wife. Lilith has an untamed, ferocious quality while Juno, no matter how enraged or vindictive she becomes, has a certain civilized restraint that Lilith never displays. When Zeus cheated on Juno, her revenge was certainly violent, but it didn't have the visceral, destructive edge of Lilith's, whose resentment was more intense. Juno had been betrayed by her husband, who went off bedding other women, but that was who and what Zeus was. Monogamy wasn't in his vocabulary and being controlled, much less giving into his wife's demands, wasn't an option. Zeus personifies the male reaction to female control whereas Lilith personifies the female reaction to male control. Juno was vengeful because she cared. Lilith is all about destructive revenge and she doesn't care if she's in the middle of the detonation as long as her targets suffer sufficient misery as well.

Lilith's female passion is the opposite pole of the power of creation. She represents sexual pleasure for pleasure's sake as well as everything men feared in the feminine domain, which led to Jewish, Moslem, and Christian cultures all condemning sexual pleasures, except as necessary for procreation. When you consider Middle Eastern rituals of female circumcision, it's hard to miss the Lilith overtones in that sordid practice. It's the difference between the life giving power of the Sun versus the destructive power of a nuclear bomb. As with all characteristics, your greatest strength and greatest weakness are simply the positive and negative manifestation of the same trait.

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The name Lilith is derived from the old Semitic word for night, "lel" or "lelath", in Arabic "laylah," which also means "ghost" or "spectre" in Hebrew. She is associated with the Death card in Tarot. She is also associated with the Owl, representing secrecy and wisdom, and she is frequently connected with cats.

Lilith is one of the dark Goddesses, like Isis, Persephone, Hecate, Athena, Minerva and Kali, expressing the feminine power of the divine creative, transformative force. She was known to the Chaldean astrologers; the Egyptians called her Nephthys. If we follow their trail back in time, down to the roots to find the source of their darkness, of the fear and negative side they typically represent in mythologies, we often discover not only a major shift in the collective human image of the feminine, but also some deep undercurrent, some hidden essence that needs to be acknowledged and healed in our personal lives.

Lilith is perhaps best understood in contrast to her counterpart, the visible Moon, Luna. Luna receives her self-fulfillment and self-definition through the nurturing of others. Lilith is self-fulfilled and self-defined. Luna represents the visible emotions; Lilith is those emotions which remain hidden or secret. Lilith lives behind-the-scenes, usually undetected. She can be sneaky or deceptive, but she can also indicate our ability to be subtle, to guide and manage events and people without being intrusive. She is our ability to be private, and her placement in the chart will tell you what the native feels most secretive about. As a Moon, Lilith is also associated with mothering, but she is the strength of a mother protecting her cubs. Luna is soft and kind and nurturing. Lilith is strong, a disciplinarian, and will kill any who threaten the well-being of her offspring. Lilith is protective and self-protective.

She protects herself from her own toxic emotions, becoming the guardian of shame, guilt, hatred, vengefulness, bitterness, envy, jealousy.

We look for Lilith in our charts to discover which defense mechanisms we employ to hide our wounding.

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Astrological Implications:

There are 3 astrological points with the name Lilith: Black Moon Lilith, Dark Moon Lilith and 1181 asteroid Lilith. They are all called Lilith because the way you interpret them in a chart is related to the Lilith story.

The various astrological forms of Lilith will indicate how and where this raw, female energy is released. Lilith is somewhere in everyone's chart, but its location and aspects to other planets and asteroids determine her power, just like any other astrological entity. Frater RIKB has written a comprehensive essay on Lilith that also includes tabulated data on the location and aspects to Lilith of various women who were famous and powerful. This fascinating treatise demonstrates that Lilith energy, like any other, can be used in a powerful yet nondestructive manner. The house placement is very apropos, with many of those whose feminism was expressed via the written word having Lilith in the 9th House of publication.

Understanding and finding Lilith's position in your natal chart is very important. It can help you become aware of your "dark side" and bring self defeating patterns and unhealthy behavior to light. This is your "sensitive point." If you have Lilith conjuncting your sun, moon, rising sign or midheaven of your chart you grab attention when you walk into a room. You are capable of hypnotizing people with your personality. Your magnetism is strong.

Lilith's placement in the chart is especially important to women, and represents the power of the original woman.
In a woman's chart, Lilith represents which part of life the woman plays a strong role in. Lilith is very evident and dominant in charts of powerful, creative women; Those who are quite successful yet vulnerable and sensitive. Many have unconventional relationships. For women Lilith represents the power she has in her chart.

In female nativities, a strongly placed Lilith shows consciousness of one's instincts, and confident governance of one's sexuality and childbirth needs; while more negative manifestations of the placement of Lilith can be social isolation stemming from unorthodox manners of functioning, and unsuitable sexual partners.

In a man's chart, Lilith reveals the type of woman he fears and the type that can drive him over the edge, often to despair. Men...have you ever met a woman that drove you over the edge? She was your Lilith and she no doubt shows up in your chart. The ideal position for Lilith in a male chart has an effect that would attract strong and beautiful to him.

In a man's chart, Lilith often indicates the area in which he'll have to deal with power issues with women. For example, in the 4th House it may mean he has an extremely domineering or just plain bitchy mother and/or wife. In the 10th House, he may have to deal with powerful women in his career. As expected, it can also be a factor in sexual preference. Obviously someone who either hates or fears someone of the opposite gender is going to have a hard time sustaining a healthy relationship with one, and an afflicted Lilith in the birth chart could certainly push someone in that direction.

In a man's chart, Lilith's placement will reveal the hidden power struggles or other issues he may have, resolved or unresolved, with the women in his life. For men, Lilith may also represent hidden powers struggles and unresolved issues with the women in his life.

In male nativities, a strongly placed Lilith attracts the individual to equal, fair relationships with strong females, who in turn are attracted to such types as him.

For both sexes Lilith shows us what we are most secretive about. Look for Lilith in your chart to see what defense mechanisms you use to hide any emotional wounding. By making peace with and embracing our own darkest emotions, we can integrate ourselves. Lilith is one of the keys in astrology which can help us attain that goal. Lilith is about unfilled wishes. She represents the suppressed shadow side of our personality, our agony and painful experiences. If she is acknowledged and understood, we can gain much from her because then we can see what it is we need to change about ourselves. Lilith can lead us to self rejuvenation and release.

Lilith has a strong influence on synastry. Lilith in everyone's chart represents sexual passion. A Lilith-influenced relationship will be wild and untamed, just as she is. Those involved will have an incredibly strong sexual attraction to one another and nothing will keep them apart. Nothing. More often than not, these affairs don't end well, either, as Lilith goes off laughing into the night. (Myths frequently mention her laugh.)

posted February 07, 2010 08:24 PM            

Perhaps the most subtle and intriguing of the three Liliths, Black Moon Lilith (BML) is not a physical body but an abstract, geometrical point, like the Ascendant or the Vertex. It is the second center of the Moon's elliptical orbit around the Earth. An ellipse has two centers, rather than one like perfect circle. The Earth is one center and Black Moon Lilith is the other. Another way to describe this point is as the apogee of the Moon's orbit - the place where it is the farthest from Earth.

Black Moon, that point in space about which the Moon revolves, has been compared to Earth's shadow sister. It doesn't physically exist in a material sense, yet according to Kepler's Laws of planetary motion, it is an important point in the Moon's orbital dynamics. No one can tell you why, only that it is, and if you want to wax philosophical about it, you could even speculate that the second focus is a spiritual center that controls the unseen parts of our emotional makeup whereas the visible Moon controls the part we express. It could even be compared to a reflection, similar to the other side of the mirror, Lilith's domain, of those parts of us we keep suppressed and hidden, those fantasies we'd never admit to having so as to maintain our civilized facade.

Since the Moon has an elliptical (oval) orbit and a wobbly one at that, the distance the Moon is from the Earth varies. The lunar apogee is the mathematical point in the sky where the Moon is farthest from the Earth. In the Moon's orbit of the Earth it periodically reaches its closest distance (Lunar Perigee or "Priapus") and then its furthest distance (Lunar Apogee). The longitude of its apogee is known as Lilith or Black Moon Lilith. The reason this point is called Lilith is because in the Lilith story she was acting out the difficult (distant) part of the Moon, in murderous rage, vindictiveness, and insanity. Lilith in this sense is a much more major astrological consideration than either the 1181 asteroid Lilith or the 'dark Moon' Lilith. The glyph for Black Moon Lilith is a black crescent pointing east, similar to a 3rd quarter Moon, but with a cross underneath.
The geocentric period of apogee Lilith is about nine years. There are two different locations that vary up to 30 degrees, based on how Black Moon Lilith is calculated. One is the "true" position, the other its "mean" position, similar to the way the Moon's nodes are calculated as "mean" or "true". But in the case of the Black Moon there can be as much as 30 degrees difference between the mean and true so it is possible for them to be in different signs or houses. The mean Black Moon moves about 39 degrees per year or about 3 degrees 8 min per month and does not retrograde. The true Black Moon retrogrades a lot and can move anywhere from 9 degrees to well over 70 degrees per year. It also can move up to 4 degrees per day or stay at the same degree for several days. Deciding which to use is easier if you look at charts of people you know where the mean and true are in different signs and houses. The true is the more accurate placement but an ephemeris for it has only been available for about 10 years so not as much work has been done using it. The ephemeris for the mean has been available for about 100 years and astrologers in Europe have been using it almost that long. That's why you see the mean used more in articles and books. Some have professed better results with the mean position, though others find the true position shows up more; the conservative approach would be to assume they both have bearing. The differences between them, as far as astrological delineation is concerned, are undoubtedly subtle and haven't as yet been identified.

It appears that the mean version relates strongly to synastry whereas the true version relates more to the person's Natal Chart and any aspects to cusps and other heavenly bodies.

Psychologist Robert Sardello, author of Facing the World with Soul, tells a story of Sophia, the feminine divine essence, always seeking union with the Spirit of God. The light of God was so brilliant, she was moving toward that, attracted to it. Then she was distracted by an equally bright light. She found herself trapped inside Earth, incarnated in physical matter, that is equally as divine. This central flame is the heart of Earth and sustains the spiritual life of Earth, as the materiality of earth nurtures and sustains our bodies. This flame reaches out from the center of Earth through all living beings, ever longing to merge with the Spirit of God. Found in the darkness, we seek her in the deepest recesses of our Selves. This is the impulse for the sacred inner marriage.
The center of gravity between the Earth and Moon is inside the Earth. As part of the Earth-Moon system, Black Moon is a point or energetic vortex intimately bound to the center of the Earth. Black Moon and Earth are the two centers or the double center, around which the Moon orbits. Lilith is a twin to the core energy of the Earth, the deep heart of fire. This is the central fire that feeds and sustains our Earth bodies. The creative vitality of the Sun gives life to the Earth and fuels this central core fire. The center of gravity between the Moon and Earth is within the Earth. It is as if Black Moon pulls away from that center and brings the Moon closer to the Sun, Black Moon being the furthest point of the Moon from Earth.

As a center point of the Moon's orbit, Black Moon Lilith works in relationship with the Earth-Moon system and with the Sun. As a second center of reference, she gives a sense of rhythm to the Earth, taking the dynamics of relationship beyond the personal Moon-Venus energies into subtle dimensions that are essential to our reasons for being on and of Earth. Representing the closest reach of the Moon to the Sun, she is also a reference point in our personal lives that brings us into relationship with the heart of our Sun-fueled experience on Earth, an emotional intelligence informed by the wisdom of earthy instinct. Since our culture has lost, even rejected as Lilith was rejected, this kind of natural wisdom is more difficult to tap into and trust.
In this regard, Black Moon Lilith can have a strong impact of relationship dynamics. Relationships that involve Lilith energy are initiatory, soul-to-soul meetings that open into a deeper center where personal and impersonal experience merge. Can we trust this energy that is unraveling our edges, tapping into such a deep well? Can we trust ourselves?
The Black Moon point is where we are lured into the mystery. She insists that we feel through, let go, surrender to something essential and transparent in us that is primary, the bedrock beneath the shifting sands, the passion of the soul. It is a corridor into the heart through which we are lured to discover our deepest truth, the longings and yearnings of our souls and thereby leading us to the deeper truth within our heart, the longings and yearnings of our souls.

In Unremembered Country, Susan Griffin beautifully articulates the essence of this core energy:
"As I go into the Earth, she pierces my heart. As I penetrate further, she unveils me. When I have reached her center, I am weeping openly. I have known her all my life, yet she reveals stories to me, and these stories are revelations and I am transformed. Each time I go to her I am born like this. Her renewal washes over me endlessly, her wounds caress me; I become aware of all that has come between us, of the noise between us, the blindness, of something sleeping between us. Now my body reaches out to her."

Black Moon Lilith symbolizes a central motivating factor that is subtle, unseen but felt. This Lilith taps into an urgent desire of the soul that seeks dramatization in life and will brook no denial. In a time such as ours of potent change, the Black Moon, with its underlying creative life force and spiritual impulse, illumines the inner pathway with the most heart for each seeker of Truth and Love.

Black Moon Lilith Keywords:
danger, darkness, deceit, destruction, devious, devouring, dreams, emptiness, enchantress, envy, fears, guilt, hatred, imagination, isolation, jealousy, magic, marriage-wrecker, mystery, night, poison, secrets, seduction, shame, the "other woman" who thinks a man needs rescuing from the "chains" of his partner, vengefulness.

The placement of Black Moon Lilith shows the area of our lives where we can be inspired to find a completely new or alternative way to express and define the personal empowerment emanating from our feminine nature. It indicates where a cycle of destruction and release of old images can result in a renewed sense of personal freedom and power. It can bestow great rewards if we are willing to pay the painful price of letting go. One must make a difficult choice or a sacrifice to overcome the urge to conform. Black Moon Lilith signifies the emotional intelligence informed by the wisdom of earthly instinct. It is where we are lured into our more self-centered illusions for the purpose of purging negative desires. An energy vortex that cuts through the veils of illusion with the sword of truth. Black Moon Lilith is where we are lured into our more self-centered illusions for the purpose of purging negative desires, thereby leading us to the deeper truth within our hearts, the longings and yearnings of our souls. Black Moon Lilith represents our deepest (often unconscious) fears and illusions; something we can hardly control or cannot control at all; very often it is where the wrong seems so right (positive aspects) and vice versa (negative aspects).

Black Moon Lilith/Lunar Apogee is believed to be a point of instinctive and emotional intelligence, whereby individuals can gain contact with and feel their inner heartfelt truths and soul longings and passions. Since at Lilith the Moon is more distant from the Earth than usual, the Sun gains relative prominence, and Lilith is also associated with the unveiling of illusions, the illumination of self-defeating behaviour patterns, the exorcism of self-centred desires, and the coming into closer contact with Earth wisdom. A strongly placed Lilith favours art, creativity, detachment from social norms, emotional sensitivity and vulnerability, an uncompromising will, and unconventional relationships. Natal apogee Lilith retrograde is thought to offer past life indications judged by its sign and house placement.
These things do not only apply to women, they apply to men as well, as the Black Moon is also their feminine side.

Only conjunctions and oppositions to apogee Lilith within a three degree orb are considered in interpretation. Such aspects to Sun, Mercury or Venus in females are thought to heighten the expression of their sexuality in their public image; those to the Moon can indicate difficulties connected with pregnancy and childbirth; and those to Mars favour the expression of independence, sometimes attracting opposition from men.

Transits from apogee Lilith bring pain and uncomfortable, uncontrolled emotions in matters connected with the transited planet, and sometimes manifest as vengefulness.

Black Moon Lilith has a strong impact on relationship dynamics. In synastric contacts, apogee Lilith brings a sense of soul connection characterised by a mergeance of personal and impersonal attributes, but with an inclination towards intensity, the uncovering of deep-seated desires, and some danger of obsessiveness and pain. A darker and more hidden sexuality, a promise of high levels of sexual satisfaction by allowing hidden self/ fantasies to emerge in sexual _expression. This one can take you to the best sex you have ever had, yet veering toward the more positive energy of this is advised, so treat each other with respect.

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Dark Moon Lilith:

Unlike Black Moon Lilith, Dark Moon Lilith, that mysterious, unconfirmed second satellite of the Earth, is a real body in the sky, a second Moon to the Earth that doesn't reflect light, hence the name Dark Moon. There is some controversy over whether it is really there since it can only be seen as a spot moving across the Sun. However, there have been sightings since the 1600's as detailed in Delphine Jay's book, Interpreting Lilith. Dr. Georges Waltemath, an astronomer, documented it in 1898 and came up with calculations which gave it an orbit of 119 days around the Earth.
The glyph for Dark Moon Lilith is a zero bisected by a diagonal line from bottom left to top right that extends beyond its limits.

Dark Moon Lilith is like a sphere of dust, absorbing light rather than reflecting it. She holds in her darkness. Sister of our Eve-like Moon, they are like the bright Sumerian Goddess Inanna and her dark sister, Ereshkigal, exiled in the underworld. After her honeymoon fails to provide the happily-ever-after romantic dream, Inanna descends to her sister's realm, the underworld of the unconscious where the rejected Ereshkigal cries in pain and anger. The Dark Goddess takes one look at her luminous, beautiful sister who has gathered all the light and fixes her with the eye of death, freezing the growth of consciousness in the paralysis of repressed pain. Giving _expression to the pain in some form releases us from our (often self-imposed) imprisonment in negative emotions. Lilith shows us the way, but she does not come out gently from behind her veil of night.

Dark Moon Lilith also symbolizes the objective thinking approach, objectivity, and a creative instinct that seeks impersonal _expression through aesthetic, creative, mental or spiritual outlets. Dark Moon Lilith can be interpreted similarly to the other Liliths. Delphine Jay says Dark Moon Lilith is a place where you must operate impersonally because operating personally there will never be successful. According to Delphine Jay's research, the effect of Dark Moon Lilith is distinctly impersonal rather than subjective as with the Moon. Whereas the reflective Moon represents personal, subjective feelings, the Dark Moon represents a primal, objective, impersonal instinct that seeks identification beyond the physical and emotional realms. "This is the way it must be," she says clearly and definitively, like one of the Fates, the triple Goddesses of Karma. When her _expression is denied or self-centered, she can be quite negative; when the emotional content is channelized into higher centers, she adds power to creative, mental or aesthetic _expression, even to spiritual practice. "Lilith strictly symbolizes the objective thinking approach. Anything less is unsuccessful." The Dark Moon point is where we are lured into our more self-centered illusions for the purpose of purging negative desires and grow beyond our habitual patterns of early Moon conditioning.

The Dark Moon specializes talent and greatly sharpens the mind, releasing a unique social talent by house position and a specialty interest by sign that seeks outlet as, in or through the vocation. When negative, Dark Moon Lilith brings susceptibility to strange influences, unusual fascinations, infatuations and/or compulsions.

Dark Moon Lilith rules a more sophisticated creative desire than the Moon. It appears to be a mode of transmission for the awakening and impersonalizing influence of Uranus and the transformational ray of Pluto and describes the impersonal needs of the social-collective self. It is an emotionally maturing force, and indicates where one must overcome naive or childish expectancies. Dark Moon Lilith moves one to extremes, either positive or negative. It represents raw urges that are for the most part hidden in the personal orientation lest the individual expose part of him/herself that he/she does not understand, making one vulnerable or to appear strangely different.

The Dark Moon is also representative of the darker, negative side of our nature. It is the hidden depths that we know exist yet we prefer not to acknowledge. It is subtle on the surface, yet profound beneath. It is the foundations of our personality and the shocking truth that we often deny and project onto others instead - the refusal to see what is really within ourselves, the subtle refusal to see what part we may have played in some unpleasant drama of our lives, and how we ourselves have manifested our fears. It is the kind of thing that we intrinsically know we have to deal with: to confront the darker side in order to progress unhindered, yet most often we try to ignore it. It is the deeper truth that we are forever in search of within ourselves. Probably the best use we can make of the Dark Moon is to explore our hidden depths, realise that we all have that darker side and go within to resolve that which ultimately hinders us. The Dark Moon is representative of the negative traits of guilt, shame, hatred, envy, and vengefulness, and is often brought about by personal wounds and hurts. It is the true dark side of things we try to hide..

There is another side of the Dark Moon astrologically. Carl G Jung, the famous psychoanalyst described something that he called the "anima". The anima is a man's image of the ideal woman and also the feminine side of his personality. For a woman it is the image of the ideal man and the masculine side of her personality. So the dark moon in a birthchart will represent these ideals too.
Dark Moon Lilith could represent that potentially tangible part of us that leaks out occasionally. Just as Dark Moon Lilith has only shown her face to a select few, this could represent that side of us that we only reveal in isolated moments of intimacy. This Lilith could be manifested through such things as ripping your lover's back to shreds during a screaming orgasm, then compassionately treating it with hydrogen peroxide when sanity returns.

It is also representative of the enchantress or the seducer, one who lures another by use of sexuality or devious means. The kind who tempts another by implying that the grass is greener on the other side, that they can "rescue" someone, but it is in reality for their own selfish gain.

The Dark Moon Lilith also has associations with motherhood, like her counterpart the Moon. With Lilith however, the instinctive nurturing is replaced by a strong protection of her offspring to the point that she would kill if necessary any that threatened them or caused them harm. She is also reactive against the ties involved with motherhood and the emptiness that mothers sometimes feel by isolation and the perceived lack of individuality that accompanies it.

The manner in which the Dark Moon plays out will be of the character of the sign in which it is posited and with overtones of the ruling planet of that sign. For example, if your Dark Moon is in Aries, it will act in the manner of Aries with overtones of Mars.

"The Dark Moon describes our relationship to the absolute, to sacrifice as such, and shows how we let go. In transit, the Dark Moon indicates some form of castration or frustration, frequently in the areas of desire, a powerlessness of the psyche, or a general inhibition. On the other hand, it shows where we question ourselves, our lives, our jobs, and our beliefs. I feel this is important, since it gives us the opportunity to 'let go' of something. The Dark Moon shows where we can let the Whole flow into our selves, without putting an 'I' in the way, without putting up a wall in the form of ego. At the same time, it doesn't indicate passivity - on the contrary - it symbolizes the firm will to be open and trusting, to let the Greater World flow through one, relying entirely on the great laws of the universe, on that which we name God. To prepare us for this opening, the Dark Moon creates a necessary void."
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1181 Asteroid Lilith:

1181 asteroid Lilith has a geocentric period of about four years. The symbol for asteroid Lilith is a stylized hand, signaling warning, greeting, or blessing. The hand is one of the most ancient symbols used by humans, seen on petroglyphs and in cave drawings. Eastern images of Gods and Goddess show hand gestures, called mudras, that convey meaning. Perhaps the meaning of Lilithıs hand signal depends on how one approaches her. Its glyph represents the upturned palm of a hand, which could be either rejecting or expecting something different. It takes about 5 years for 1181 asteroid Lilith to travel through all 12 signs, since it does retrograde a lot. It orbits the Sun in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter.

In the classic book, Asteroid Goddesses, Demetra George and Douglas Bloch discuss the mythology of asteroid Lilith in relation to issues of suppressed rage, resentment, sexual manipulation and self-exile. She is a fiercely independent Goddess who refuses to submit to the assumed authority of another, who refuses to compromise her beliefs. As the original, first wife of Adam, created from the same God Power and the same Earth, she demanded an equal relationship. She asks us to deal with confrontation and issues of equality in relationship.

The asteroid seems to represent split off, demonized aspects of the feminine, the result of long standing cultural projections that percieve feminine roles and attributes as shameful, untrustworthy and dangerous; also issues surrounding motherlessness and adoption/mentoring. Our personal Lilith placement may show where we struggle with social judgments that define how the feminine qualities should be expressed in order to "fit in." It is the point where we may most need to cast off socially-imposed role models of the feminine that deny her true instinct and vitality. These cultural definitions define us, but are not us. Here we may not be seen clearly. A prominent 1181 asteroid Lilith placement in the birth chart may indicate a person who does not fit the cultural stereotype, leading to some kind of exile from the community.

1181 asteroid Lilith can represent/indicate:
- conflict resolution (sometimes the incapability to attain this)
- divided loyalties
- favoritism
- issues of personal and sexual power
- domination (particularly in male nativities) and violence
- doubts over the integrity or loyalty of partners
- female sexual assertiveness, fantasies, independence and lust
- a lack of sexual commitment
- love triangles
- manipulative relationship behaviour
- a non-submissive disposition, particularly with regard to gender roles for women
- negotiation and compromise ability; repressed anger (sometimes leading to vindictive behaviour)
- personal independence; resentment arising from rejection
- rivalry for affection, commitment or fidelity; sexual expectations or criticism; subterfuge in relationships
- an uncompromising stance over beliefs
- the use of sex as a weapon of vengeance or domination

1181 asteroid Lilith, is often cited as influencing relationships. It has to do with all aspects of difficult sexual relationships. This is where our attitudes toward sexuality, power, or rage at its suppression, violently refusing to be subordinate, or using it for manipulation reside. Refusal to compromise one's beliefs in a destructive manner are also in this realm. Regardless of how correct the principle may be, there are ways to get what you want without being blatantly destructive, but this is not the approach taken by a Lilith personality. Lilith doesn't care if her means are self-destructive, only that they make a statement. Eve ultimately got her way, but did so by using her feminine wiles in a far less threatening manner. In synastry, aspects to Lilith indicate the necessity for those involved to negotiate compromises; and potential sexual difficulties arising from anger, fear, suspicion or rejection.

Afflicted, Lilith can signify the inability to reach consensus before issues of power can be resolved; perceptions of femininity as being 'bitchy' or evil (particularly in male subjects); or even sexual abuse.

Transits to Lilith bring issues of comparison, competition, preference or rejection to the fore, often with some activity keeping partners relatively apart temporarily, leading to feelings of neglect and jealousy. They can also provoke confrontations with gender role stereotypes. When activated by transits, eclipses or progressions, Lilith placed strongly natally can manifest as a period of sexual disinterest or involvement in love affairs.
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Algol: The Lilith Star:

Lilith has given her name to yet a fourth astronomical entity, Algol: The Lilith Star. The star Algol in the constellation Perseus, has a reputation as the most evil star in the sky. Most often envisioned as the Eye or Head of Medusa, Algol was also called Lilith by Hebrew star watchers. Such an Eye perceives "with an objectivity, like that of nature itself and our dreams, boring into the soul to find the naked truth, to see reality beneath all its myriad forms and the illusions and defenses it displays," writes Sylvia Pereira as she describes Ereshkigal's sword-like glance of death. When the Sumerian underworld Goddess fixes her gaze upon us, our illusions about ourselves are stripped. Our motivations are bared. We see the truth and stew in our own juices, as we let go of self-deceptions and illusions. As the Wolf said to Little Red Riding Hood, "All the better to see you with, my dear."

Stellar Lilith, in the realm of the fixed stars, is located at 25 Taurus 28 in relation to the zodiac and culminates, or reaches its height in the sky, at 18 Taurus. Both of these points are potent Algol degrees, creating another kind of Lilith corridor. You may have your own position for Algol rising or setting, depending on where you were born. This star brings us into a large mythic drama, that involves Perseus and Andromeda, Cassiopeia and Cepheus, Pegasus and Cetus. The well-known Greek story has more ancient roots in Ethiopia and Libya, in the prehistory of the Amazon culture and the High Priestesses of Africa, revealing more dimensions of the power of the Great Mother.

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The Trinity of Lilith:

The three Liliths are intriguing as a mirror of the triple Goddess - and the star Algol brings the trinity into a fourth dimension. Essentially Tantric, Lilith in her several forms transforms subjective to spiritual. Her impersonal energy opens transparent areas of the mind, not clouded by the weight of collective Judgement or limitations of ego identity. The three aspects vibrate at different frequencies, in chords and octaves, opening channels to clear and spiritualize the emotional body. The cycle of our Lilith experience is initiated by the asteroid Lilith, developed by the Dark Moon Lilith and completed by the Black Moon Lilith.
1181 Asteroid Lilith is not connected to the Moon as are the other two Liliths. It has an orbit of somewhat over four years and is the most embodied, a verified object with an official number. Asteroid Lilith about repressed elements that want full embodied expression, relating to issues of sexuality, anger, assertion and conflict resolution.

Dark Moon Lilith has the fastest orbital cycle, like a cloud passing across the Sun. With its very existence veiled in shadow, Dark Moon relates to highly individualized soul desires that are denied personal satisfaction for higher expression on social/spiritual levels.

Black Moon Lilith is an energy vortex, an ancient pathway into incarnation and sword of truth. Its orbital cycle of eight years, ten months, coordinates with the Moonıs nodal cycles. Black Moon has deep instinctive intuition, will and desire power that can weave matter out of ether. Perhaps that why she comes in dreams, when our bodies and rational minds are asleep. Our thoughts are then turned off and she can whisper her secrets in images and even, perhaps, transport us to other realms. She is a weaver of the etheric and the physical, like the warp and woof of the loom. She weaves together the collective and the personal, as the myth becomes our experience to regenerate.

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LILITH IN ARIES often causes an extreme strive for autonomy, leading to problems in partnerships, because you are very interested in partnerships. Perhaps you are changing restlessly possible life partners without committing yourself, because there is always anything wrong with them. With flirts you are courageously, quickly and also successfully, possibly tending to one nite stands. Partnerships and sexual matters can be of uncertainty. You are fair, fighting for justice and peace.
Lilith in Aries is straight-forward about her sexuality and may use it to feel powerful. Applied in a negative manner, there may be temper tantrums or bratty behavior.

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LILITH IN TAURUS gives extraordinary love for the beauty and big emotional activity. You look for your security needs in a relationship, contacting others by flirting. With gifts and properties others can attract you, and probably you achive material security in a partnership. But you maybe get disturbed by the material dependence then, and your emotional harmony turns out of the balance.
Lilith in Taurus may hide money or possessions, and there will be a great deal of secrecy regarding finances. This can also indicate miserliness, or a refusal to share one's resources with others.

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LILITH IN GEMINI usually causes a strive for independence, particularly in intellectual areas. Perhaps you dedicate yourself to the beautiful literary arts or work in the public relations area. You have a diplomatic and psychological feeling and can entertain your fellow beings very well. Probably you tend to superficialnesses and your objectivity is limited sometimes, because you can get enticed and bounded by ideas easily. You possibly like to change your fellow beings, especially partners, if possible without their and even sometimes your own knowledge. In this position emotions can be suppressed unnoticed or converted to rationalities.
When Lilith hides herself among the twins, she may exhibit a chameleon-like ability to be whoever she must be at the moment, hiding her true thoughts and feelings. If used improperly, the native may be considered "two-faced" or be a vicious gossip.

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LILITH IN CANCER urges you to create domestic and family peace. You like to meet many people in your home in order to have expanded meals with them, whereby you take part in discussions very emotionally and with psychological knowledge. In family matters you are inclined not to recognize things or situations correctly, or you don't want to admit situations and circumstances because you get enticed by unrealistic opinions very easily.
Hidden emotions may come out in ways that affect the physical health. When expressed in ways that are healthy, Lilith's influence here makes the native a powerful parent, or an activist for the protection of children. When negative, there may be chronic or psychomatic illness, or the tendency toward martyrdom.

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LILITH IN LEO produces strong entertainment urges. Without any problems people can attract you to go to parties, where you then set yourself on stage. You also want to participate in bets and speculations, though your intuition tells you rather to leave your hands of it. You create harmony and peace, know how to flirt and to manipulate people to general well-being. You are probably well-known due to your charming character.
Lilith in Leo wants to be admired, but she'll never admit it. In creative _expression, she will do things her own way and never feel obliged to explain herself. Taken to extremes, she becomes the prima donna, demanding and unforgiving.

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LILITH IN VIRGO blurrs the objectivity and lets you express criticism at wrong places perhaps. You simply don't want to commit yourself, are very orientationless regarding occupation and partnership. Other people may get confused by you, because this confusive position produces paradoxes in almost all areas of life. You perhaps tend hopelessly between commitment and autonomy urge, between social contacts and retreat. On the other hand, psychological and analytic abilities are almost unsurpassably strong, and your intuition beats everything. Unfortunately the possibility exists that you are not conscious about your abilities, or that you don't want to admit them.
Lilith in Virgo will often make the native very secretive or repressed in their sexual _expression, and there will be much attention to hygiene and health-related details. When negative, Lilith in Virgo can be very cold and aloof, or extremely critical of the habits of others..

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LILITH IN LIBRA makes one fair, diplomatically and harmony-striving. You like to flirt and manipulate your fellow beings with well-meaning intention. You permanently go into and break or let brake partnerships, because you vary between commitment and thirst for autonomy. The cause could be that you don't want to admit your wrong conceptions about fellow beings, or you don't want to see their real characters. Surely also belongs to it, that you may consider yourself completely different, contrary to the others, or that you are simply misjudged. You are of wisdom and intuition, as well as psychological ability and music love, but you may not have knowledge about it all. You wish to receive emotional loyalty from your life partner, and you want to be accepted emotionally. Probably you have very high requirements in partnerships and wish well working interpersonal relations to yourself.
Lilith in Libra may find herself concerned with the legalistic side of power. She is a defender of women here, supportive of laws that curtail abuse or sexual crimes. Taken to extremes, Lilith in Libra may be vindictive against those she perceives to be offenders, and in relationships may be clinging, jealous or manipulative.

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LILITH IN SCORPIO may let you be enticed by sexual attractions easily, whereby you subordinate yourself to a more powerful partner or in reverse, or it comes to a mutually making the most of power. In this position the danger exists that you don't recognize these powers at all, the own or those of the others. You have to deal with setbacks, accidents and symbolic as well as real deaths, although there are usually opportunities to avoid it before any danger appears. You are maybe addicted to dangers because you want to exceed borders. Possibly you had to make experiences with death in the childhood, but can see the death as an inevitable part of the life due to your large psychological regeneration ability now.
There are some astrologers who believe that Lilith is the co-ruler of Scorpio, along with Pluto. When placed here, she is powerfully sexual, hypnotic, seductive and wise. When under a negative influence, she can become bitter, vengeful or obsessed.

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LILITH IN SAGITTARIUS surely confronts you with the temptations of education journeys. If there is something to learn somewhere, you are quickly at place and you won't leave out a single opportunity to travel. Your contact to fellow beings is, due to your knowledge and psychological understanding, rather missionary and manipulative, but always with well-meaning intention. You are popular in a certain way because you try to apply diplomacy and fairness. At all your optimism and all the generosity you spread out, it could come to the situation that other people take advantage of you, or that you misjudge fellow beings.
Lilith in Sagittarius may hide her emotions beneath a facade of humor or a mask of "niceness." She may keep her personal philosophies secret from others, keeping her own counsel. In the negative, this placement can indicate haughtiness, self-righteousness, and prejudice.

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LILITH IN CAPRICORN lets you hardly resist to the temptations of fame, status and power. You could bring yourself into large difficulties, because you misjudge the actual naturenesses of these characteristics, or you don't want to admit them at all. Problems in partnerships are usually resulting therefore in this position. You could tend to change your fellow beings and, in addition, to suppress their inner values completely. You look for autonomy, but perhaps won't necessarily also grant it to others.
Lilith in Capricorn will hardly ever share any emotions, and these natives may seem unapproachable. Achievement and status will be the method employed to feed the hidden need for emotional contact. At its extremes, here is the anal retentive who must control everything.

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LILITH IN AQUARIUS lets you misjudge your friends easily. Probably you have completely wrong conceptions of them or of what your friends think about you. You strive for autonomy with manipulative methods and psychological tricks, reject all too tight interpersonal relations and consider partnerships and relations rather as friendships. You surely hardly tend to commit yourself, although you want to to express any certain inner urge. Your fairness, tolerance, global thinking and humanity are noticeable, and you may argue with degenerated art or queer music styles. Though your intuitivity is remarkable, you could tend to a nonperception of the mentioned things.
Lilith in Aquarius will probably mask the hidden emotions with a series of ever-changing kaleidoscopic surface emotions, and will seem fascinating and elusive to others. The native may be chimerical, fluttering like a fairy from one situation to the next. At its worst, Lilith in Aquarius is irresponsible, remote, and refuses to listen to others.

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LILITH IN PISCES can produce almost high-grade blurryness and impressingness. Perhaps you go voluntarily in dependence, also separatingnesses and an excessive social activity characterizes you. Possibly you repudiate yourself and don't recognize your internal needs or you don't want allow them to yourself. Fantasy, art sense and inspiration are very strong here. In addition, this position shows the danger to succumb to illusions and surrealities again and again. Possibly the whole life does not appear to you as real, but as virtual.
Lilith is already secretive, and doubly so in Pisces. This is usually the person who has emotional wounding buried so deeply that they don't even know it themselves. Lilith's placement here may instigate behaviors which even the native finds baffling, and is often associated with passive-aggressive and unconscious behavioral patterns.
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Lilith In The Houses:

LILITH IN THE 1st HOUSE lets you always fight impulsively and initiatively for liberalism and fairness. You have ingenuity and foam over with energy in relations, partnerships and public-referred interests. With sexual adventures you can get enticed easily and if someone offers a leading role to you, you take it without thinking. In this position there is a tendency to come into problematic situations repeatedly, and also to understand the life life-worthy only as a kind of nonstop action.

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LILITH IN THE 2nd HOUSE directs efforts on hedonistic activities and the acquisition of property. Quickly you succumb to material temptations, and you accumulate properties. You probably don't recognize the problems coming along with that, or you don't want to admit them at all, you don't react, but look for harmony and have a sense of art. Perhaps you regret it soon, if you commit yourself in a partnership, especially if you went into financial dependence.

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LILITH IN THE 3rd HOUSE can cause misunderstandings and misjudgings while looking on yourself or on other persons. Perhaps it is not clear to you, how much independence you need, or you even don't want to admit that at all. Therefore you terminate relationships when they become seriously, or you go into a relationship, but get very unhappy with it. You don't want to commit yourself and you also need mental liberty. You feel safe with informal contacts, to which you are looking intensively for, and you can get tempted to meetings without problems.

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LILITH IN THE 4th HOUSE looks for fulfilment in family, home and homeland. Probably you suffer from the missing autonomy, anyhow you don't get lucky. You gladly invite to meals and meet the whole family to communicative happenings. You strive for harmony and diplomacy, but are inclined to misjudge your fellow beings.. Possibly there is discord between understanding and feeling.

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LILITH IN THE 5th HOUSE spreads charisma, but possibly lets you misjudge your children. It can lead to fatal misunderstandings, if you don't use your intuition and wisdom with children. Maybe it comes to manipulations on one side or even mutually. You are maybe a phoney and like to set yourself on stage. Gladly you surround yourself with luxury and look for harmony, need a lot of freedom. You easily succumb to the temptation to take part in speculations.

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LILITH IN THE 6th HOUSE often lets you succumb to rational temptations of perfection, correctness and hygiene. On the other hand also an irrational, intuitive attraction shows up. A fight between understanding and feeling could occur here. Perhaps you internally hate all the perfection and such things. You may misjudge the reality frequently, and you take the liberty to place criticism without the necessary objectivity at the same time. Your psychological understanding is very noticeably and perhaps you find your healing in helping other people, in healing and in sympathy for others. In partnerships and relations it could come to a conflict between your thirst for autonomy and an urge to commit yourself to the other. If your public life gets too stressful you may tend to retreat from it for a while.

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LILITH IN THE 7th HOUSE causes a fight between a commitment urge and a strive for independence. Perhaps you are able to analyze your own psychological situation in every detail, but you succumb to the temptation to change nothing, showing the same behaviors again and again, of which you know exactly that you harm yourself. Gladly you manipulate your fellow beings with best intentions and flirts are your speciality. Also, you love the music and show your mediating, always fair and harmony-referring nature.

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LILITH IN THE 8th HOUSE brings you in contact with power. Perhaps you don't notice it at all, or you don't want to admit that people use their power. There is also the possibility that you misjudge your own power by suppressing others. Possibly you expose yourself consciously to dangers or get enticed to dangerous and or sexual activities. This position usually brings contacts with deaths and losses in early years. By your internal wisdom you understood with the years that death is a part of the life.

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LILITH IN THE 9th HOUSE makes optimistically, generous and gives interest in philosophy and religion. You strive very intensively for education and overload yourself with knowledge. There is the possibility, that others misjudge you or take advantage of you, or you negate your abilities or don't want to admit them. You need a lot of independence and are characterized by honesty, fairness and love for justice. You gladly are missionary and make use of your psychological understanding. Possibly others misunderstand you, and there exists a danger of getting enticed by very high and honourable, but not daily ideals making you appearing as unworldly and queer to your fellow beings. You would never say no to an education journey and immediately get into the airplane, also, the temptation of an emigration is very big here, whereby the danger of idealizing the destination of the emigration exists, and you may later realize to have been a victim of an illusion. If you meet your probably permanent desires to travel far away by just doing it, you may come in contact to many interesting people, and thus you will be able to extend your horizon.

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LILITH IN THE 10th HOUSE lets you gladly manipulate other perople. You strive for fame, power and status, but may not recognize the side effects of these things or you recognize them, but suppress or don't admit them at the same time. The result can be problems, restrictions and in the long run bitterness and discords, which you consider as an interference factor in your life surely. Either you don't accept that another one has power over you, or you are not consciously about others that use their power to your disadvantage at all. And thus you surely are in conflict with leading persons permanently, if you are aware of this, because you need very much freedom, and therefore you also could avoid partnerships or allow them to be on a friendship level only. Probably your demands are much too high, and you overload yourself with responsibilities within the areas of partnership and public relations. This position tempts to taboo breakings, to a questioning of conventions and undemocratic social structures.

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LILITH IN THE 11th HOUSE brings strong autonomy efforts. You are very tolerant and open to unusualnesses, surely have strange, but very creative artistic attitudes and prefer open partnerships, that others would rather consider as friendships only. You look for adventurous friendships, but could tend to misjudge the kind of your friends natures, or you don't want to admit them. Intuition and wisdom are nevertheless very strong, as well as your inventor talent. You like to present your eccentric nature.

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