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DD
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posted February 12, 2010 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,

you said in the other thread that Moon Persona charts might be significant, and of course I had to check it with my "usual suspects".

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tropical:
My ASC trine his Eros (0)
my ASC quinkunx his Karma (0)
his Moon sextile my Juno (2)
his Moon sextile my Eros (2)
- actually his Moon is on the exact midpoint of my Juno/Eros

Moon Persona charts
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his MP DESC conjunct my Juno (0)
his MP Valentine conjunct my DESC (0)
his MP Valentine conjunct my SN (2)
his MP Valentine conjunct my MP SN (0)
his MP Venus conjunct my Juno (2)
his MP Juno conjunct my DESC (3.4)
his MP Juno conjunct my SN (0)
his MP Juno conjunct my MP Karma (2)

his MP ASC trine my MP Amor (0)
his MP MOon trine my ASC (1)
his MP MOON trine my MP Juno (1)
his MP NN trine my MP Valentine (1)
his MP Amor trine my Valentine (2)
his MP Valentine trine my Pluto (1)
his MP Venus trine my MP Saturn (1)
his MP Juno trine my Pluto (0)


my MP Sun conjunct his SN (1)
my MP Juno conjunct his Eros (2)
my MP NN trine his Eros (0)
my MP Moira trine his Eros (0)
my MP Moira trine his MP Moon (1)
my MP Valentine trine his NN (2)
my MP Pluto opposite his Eros (2)


There are two significant DW`s - at least I think they are significant:


his MP DESC conjunct my Juno (0)
his MP Juno conjunct my DESC (3)


his MP True Node trine my MP Valentine (2)
his MP Valentine opposite my True Node (2)
his MP Valentine opposite my MP true Node (0)
his True Node trine my MP Valentine (2)

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posted February 12, 2010 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hehehe

Moon persona is taking moon to 0' cancer and everything on from there, right?

You've got some funky aspects there DD !!
The NN/Valentine is just AWESOME!!!

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posted February 12, 2010 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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tropical:

my ASC quinkunx his Valentine (1)

Moon Persona charts:

his MP Saturn conjunct my ASC (2)
his MP Angel conjunct my Pluto (0)
his MP Eros conjunct my MP Tyche (2)
his MP Psyche conjunct my Amor (1)
his MP Tyche tirne my Venus (1)
his MP Moira trine my ASC (2)
his MP Valentine trine my MP Amor (0)
his MP Saturn opposite my Venus (2)
his MP Valentine opposite my Juno (0)
his MP Valentine opposite my MP Psyche (1)
his MP Venus opposite my MP Karma (1)


my MP DESC conjunct his Sun (0)
my MP ASC conjunct his Valentine (0)
my MP NN conjunct his ASC (1)
my MP Moira conjunct his ASC (1)
my MP Valentine conjunct his Venus (1)
my MP Saturn trine his Sun (2)
my MP Juno trine his ASC (0)
my MP Valentine opposite his Saturn (1)


one DW:

his MP MOira trine my ASC
my MP Moira conjunct his ASC

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tropical:
his Moon quinkunx my Valentine (1)
my Moon quinkunx his Psyche (2)


Moon Persona charts:

his MP DESC conjunct my Venus (0)
his MP ASC conjunct my MP ASC (0)
his MP Saturn conjunct my IC (0)
his MP Karma conjunct my MP Eros (2)
his MP Venus conjunct my DESC (1)
his MP Eros conjunct my Juno (1)
his MP Eros conjunct my MP Psyche (0)
his MP Saturn trine my ASC (2)
his MP Karma trine my valentine (0)
his MP Juno trine my ASC (2)
his MP Juno tine my MP Moira (2)
his MP Moon opposite my Moon (0)
his MP MOon opposite my MP Sun (0)
his MP Venus opposite my Mars (0)

my MP DESC conjunct his Eros (0)
my MP Mars conjunct his Venus (1)
my MP Amor trine his Psyche (1)
my MP Valentine trine his Valentine (0)
my MP Valentine trine his Juno (0)
my MP Psyche opposite his Psyche (0)

DW:
his MP DESC conjunct my Venus
his MP Venus conjunct my DESC


I am pretty gobsmacked about some of the aspects in all three cases. What do you say?

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posted February 12, 2010 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

no what you mean are the shifted charts.

Moon-Persona is an option at astro.com. It is the chart of the exact date when the transiting Sun is for the very first time conjunct your tropical Moon.


And yes, pretty much gobsmacked. Actually in the 1st case I also share this Valentine / NN-connection in the Shifted charts I think.

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posted February 12, 2010 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks

Here are two of mine, one more to come:

MAN 1:
His MP sun cj my Lilith (0)
His MP sun cj my proserpina (1)
His MP sun opp my Neptune (0)
His MP moon cj my Pluto (0)
His MP moon trine my mars (2) isis (2) persephone (2)
His MP venus cj my Aphrodite (1)
His MP mars cj my Aphrodite (2)
his MP Pluto trine my proserpina (0)
his MP NN cj my freia (0)
his MP NN opp my vertex (0)
his MP NN trine my sun (2)
his MP NN trine my atlantis (1)
his MP vertex trine my boda (0)
his MP juno opp my eros (2)
his MP juno trine my MC (2)
his MP karma cj my sun (0)
his MP karma opp my karma/juno (0)
his MP karma trine my vertex (2)
his MP destinn cj my IC (2)
his MP valentine cj my atlantis (0)
his MP valentine trine my vertex (1)
his MP cupid opp my vertex (0)
his MP eros opp my valentine (1)
his MP eros trine my mars (2) isis (2) Proserpina (1)
his MP amor opp my eros (2)
his MP AC cj my ceres (1)
his MP AC opp my sun/moon midpoint (0)

my MP sun cj his destinn (0)
my MP moon trine his union (2)
my MP venus cj his destin (0)
my MP mars opp his eros (2)
my MP Pluto cj his Pluto (0)
my MP Pluto opp his NN (0)
my MP Pluto trine his moon (1)
my MP NN trine his mars (1)
my MP juno opp his sun (2)
my MP karma trine his venus (2)
my MP destinn trine his sun (1)
my MP valentine cj his valentine (0)
my MP valentine trine his eros (0) psyche (0) karma (2) !!!!!
my MP psyche trine his venus (1)
my MP eros trine his mars (2)
my MP union cj his amor (0)
my MP amor cj his eros (2)
my MP amor trine his psyche (2)
my MP AC opp his eros (1)

DW of AMOR/EROS and EROS/MARS
Valentine trine eros/psyche exact must mean something!! lol

MAN 2:
His MP sun opp my atlantis (2)
His MP moon opp my mars (0)
His MP moon trine my valentine (0)
His MP venus cj my DC (0)
His MP mars cj my eros (0)
His MP Pluto trine my Persephone (2)
His MP NN cj my IC (2)
His MP NN trine my destinn (0)
His MP vertex opp my groom (2)
His MP vertex trine my sun (2)
His MP karma cj my groom (2)
His MP karma opp my kaali (2)
His MP valentine trine my Persephone (0) Lilith (1)
His MP amor cj my sun (2)
His MP AC trine my eros (0)

My MP venus trine his briede (2)
My MP mars trine his briede (0)
My MP NN opp his aphrodite (0)
My MP vertex opp his groom (2)
My MP juno opp his moon (2)
My MP destinn cj his AC (2) eros (2)
My MP valentine trine his vertex (0)
My MP union opp his boda (2)
My MP AC trine his briede (1)

DW vertex/groom
My MP venus/mars trine his briede is interesting.


Which one do you prefer DD ?
What aspects does IQ want for the moon persona, of significance?

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posted February 12, 2010 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MAN 3:

His MP NN opp my valentine (0)
His MP valentine trine my valentine (1)
His MP vertex cj my eros (2)
His MP karma cj my sun (2)

my MP AC opp his sun (1)
my MP mars opp his sun (2)
my MP saturn cj his venus (0)
my MP juno opp his destinn (2)
my MP karma cj his NN (0)
my MP destinn trine his destinn (0)
my MP valentine trine his sun (0)


BOTH man 1 and man 3 have His MP karma cj my sun.

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posted February 12, 2010 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man nr 2. strong connection in moon persona chart also. That is always fun to take a look but what it say are one another question.

My MP AC conj my own MP prosperina
MY MP DC conj my own MP karma
My MP MC conj my own N osiris/DNA
MY MP IC conj my own N Karma


MY MP DC conj his N.N
My MP MC conj his MP eros
My MP IC conj his N venus
My MP IC conj my N karma

My MP SUN conj N moon 0
My MP sun conj MP jup 1-2
My MP sun conj MP nessus 1-2
My MP SUN square his MP isis
His MP SUN conj my MP moon
His MP Sun conj N moon
His MP sun/N moon sext my N.N /mars
His MP sun/N moon sext my saturn

My MP moon conj his MP sun
My MP moon conj his N moon
His MP moon conj my MC/eris 1-2
His MP moon trine my SUN/AC 0-1

My MP valentine conj his N valentine exact
My MP wertex conj his N valentine 0-1
My MP valentine conj his MP mars 1-2
My MP wertex conj his MP mars 0-1
His MP valentine conj my N vesta 0-1
His MP valentine trine my N nept 0-1
His MP valentine conj my N chiron 1-2
His MP valentine trin my N karma 1-2
His MP valentine conj my MP saturn 0-1
His MP valentine opp my MP pluto 2
His MP valentine square my MP N.N 0-1
His MP valentine opp my MP mars 0-1

My MP karma conj his N.N 2
My MP karma trine his MP juno 0-1
His MP karma trine my vesta 1
His MP karma trine my neptu 1-2
His MP karma sext my MP mars 0-1
His MP karma trine my MP saturn 0-1

My MP proserpina/AC semisext his MP pluto 0-1
MY MP proserpina /AC semisext his N pluto 1-2
My MP proserpina /AC opp his N.N 0-1
His MP proserpina opp my N kaali 0-1
His MP proserpina opp my N pluto 2-3
His MP proserpina square my MP jup 0-1
His MP proserpina trine my N cupido 0-1
His MP proserpina conj my MP eros 0-1

My MP persephone opp his MP amor 0-1

KITE
His MP persephone conj my N true lilith 0-1
His MP persephone sext my N juno/pallas 1-2
His MP persephone sext my MP nept 0-1
His MP persephone sext my N chiron 0-1
His MP persephone opp my N nymf/Pan 0-1
His MP persephone opp my MP isis 1-2
His MP persephone trine my N afrodite 0-1
His MP persephone trine my N union 0
His MP persephone sext his N boda/bride 0-1
His MP persephone trine his N juno/saturn 1-2

My MP eros conj his N hera
My MP eros trine his N venus 0-1
My MP eros opp my N kaali 0-1
My MP eros conj his MP proserpina

His MP eros trine my MP pluto 0-1
His MP eros trine my N pluto 1-2
His MP eros opp my N karma 0-1
His MP eros sext his N karma 0-1

My MP boda

His MP boda 25,4/angel 27 59 conj My MP angel 26,49/ groom 26,52.
His MP boda trine my N amor/wertex 0-1
His MP angel trine my N amor/wertex 0-1
His MP boda opp my N valentine/siva 0-1
His MP angel opp my N valentine/siva 0-1
His MP angel trine my N venus 0-1

My MP boda/MP briede trine his MP N.N 0-1
My MP boda/briede quinkunx his N boda/briede

My MP boda/MP briede quinkunx my own MP saturn 0-1
My MP boda/MP briede quinkunx his N juno/saturn
My MP boda/MP briede square his MP persephone
My MP boda/MP briede square my N pan/nymf

My MP boda/MP briede trine his MP nessus


STAR OF DAVID = tight orb
His MP boda/MP angel conj My MP angel/MP groom
His MP boda/MP angel aires sext my MP karma/his N.N aqua
His MP boda/MP angel trine my N amor/wertex sag
His MP boda/MP angel sext his MP Juno gemini
His MP boda/MP angel sext my N venus gemini
His MP boda/MP angel trine my MP AC/proserpina leo
His MP boda/MP angel opp my N valentine/Siva libra

DW valentine/mars

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posted February 13, 2010 02:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow! Stunning Synastries posted by everybody!

I just evaluate the Moon Persona like a standard Tropical Synastry. If something synchronistic stands out, I take it as a positive omen.

Like MP Valentine aspects MP North Node, and we have that in tropical as well, then it is phenomenal.

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posted February 13, 2010 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ, DD, anyone !!

Can i ask please what you make of this PROSERPINA PERSONA, please?

his PP sun opp my n AC 0
his PP persephone opp my n AC 1
his PP moon opp my n AC 2
(not sure about my AC degree though...)
his PP AC cj my n eros 0
his PP valentine opp my n moon/venus 0
his PP NN opp my n pluto 1

my PP AC/NN/saturn cj his n destinn 0
my PP persephone cj his n moon 0
my PP sun cj his n moon 1 ***
my PP proserpina cj his n venus 0 ***
my PP mars cj his n venus 2 ***
my PP moon cj his n sun 1 ***

is that normal to have the sun/moon DW cj and the venus/mars cj and what does it mean?

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posted February 14, 2010 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please!!! I also want to know about Laras question. It's so interesting....

Why we use moon persona charts and not venus persona charts?

Why are moon persona the most importent?

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posted February 14, 2010 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
1. Moon is the quickest moving PLANET (of course ASC is quicker)

2. Moon indicates a deeper layer of your personality than Venus; it leads you into the core of your soul, the seat your emotional makeup (not only in regard to social connections, relationships et similiar things as Venus shows; imo Moon shows what you NEED, and Venus what you LIKE or are ATTRACTED to)

3. Moon also relates to the past; memories and similiar things.


That is why I think Moon is very important and indicative. Also, the tropical chart is actually the Sun-Persona chart; Moon is the complimentary counterpart to Sun, so it makes sense to me.


Venus Persona charts would be interesting, too, though, regarding relationships.

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posted February 14, 2010 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lara,

I feel the Sun-Moon-DW is very significant.

Also, the fact that his PP Nn is opposing your Pluto; it is like having some kind of Pluto-proserpina connection, but since it is the conjunction to his SN, maybe one that stems from the past?

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posted February 14, 2010 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks DD.

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posted February 14, 2010 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree about MOON and VENUS persona charts. Here are the most significant aspects between me and my twin flame.

my moon persona/his natal
My Saturn cj his venus (0)
My psyche/karma cj his NN (0)
My AC opp his valentine (1)
My briede opp his union (1)
My groom cj his venus (2)

his moon persona/my natal
His NN opp my valentine (1)
His venus cj my AC (1)
His sun cj my AC (3)
His karma cj my sun (2)
His DC cj my eros (2)
His destinn opp my Saturn/NN (0)
His destinn opp my moon (1) venus (3)
His Saturn cj my karma (2)
His briede cj my psyche (0)
His eros cj my psyche (2) ***
His valentine opp my mars (2)
His IC cj my briede (1)


my venus persona/his natal
My sun cj his eros (2)
My venus cj his sun/moon mp (0)***
My groom cj his venus (0)***
My Saturn cj his venus (0)***
My moon cj his groom (1)
My karma cj his NN (1)
My psyche cj his NN (0)
My briede opp his union (0)
My mars opp his sun (0)
My IC cj his destinn (2)

his venus persona/my natal (i found these breath taking!)
His sun cj my sun/moon mp (0)***
His venus cj my mars (3)***
His AC cj my valentine (2)***
His destinn cj my eros (3)
His moon cj my karma/juno (3)
His moon opp my sun (3)***
His briede opp my mars (2)
His valentine opp my proserpina (0)***
His Pluto opp my AC (3)
His mars opp my briede (0)***
His NN opp my valentine (2)***

sun/moon, venus/mars, valentine/proserpina and NN/valentine! lol

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posted February 15, 2010 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duality2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Questions to all that know anything about these persona charts:

1) Do you compare them to your own bc or just look at it independently?

2) In synastry, I understand that you compare to the other person's BC. What would one look at? What aspects? What things would be signifiant?

3) What about persona charts of name asteroids? Let's say I have a person I'm interested in, his/her name is in my chart and I make the persona chart for that asteroid - do I still compare it to his/her natal?

4) Is there a point in comparing persona charts of two people? (Say, the two moon p-charts and so on)?

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posted February 15, 2010 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just compare persona to natals.
I don't do persona to persona

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posted February 15, 2010 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Duality:
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4) Is there a point in comparing persona charts of two people? (Say, the two moon p-charts and so on)?
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When the dates of birth are just 5 or 10 days apart, the Moon Persona to Moon Persona comparison is better than Tropical Synastry.

@Lara: Scintillating Proserpine Persona Chart!
One excelent soulmate couple in my database had similar chart with many valid aspects.

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posted February 15, 2010 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Duality2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tnx for your replies.

So, what about questions 1-3?

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posted February 15, 2010 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just for fun did this
Checked out sun/ moon/venus/mars/valentin/karma persona. I looking only at valentine,N.N

SUN PERSONA CHART
His N valentin 23,17 in capricorn
His N.N 26 in aqua


My N valentine 26,51 in libra conj my siva
My NN 1,2 in cancer
My N amor/wertex 26 in SAG

His N valentine square my N valentine

My N valentine/siva trine his N.N
My N amor/wertex trine his N.N
My N venus trine his N.N

His N.N trine my venus
His N.N conj my boda

MOON PERSONA CHART
His valentine conj my N vesta
His valentine trine my N vesta
His valentine conj my MP saturn
His valentine opp my MP mars
His valentine Square my MP N.N

My valentine/wertex conj his N valentine 0-0,3
My valentine/wertex conj his MP mars

VENUS PERSONA CHART
His valentine conj my DRACo venus 0-1
His valentine trine my Draco valentine/siva
His valentine opp my DRaco amor/wertex
His valentine square my N venus
His valentine square my N amor/wertex
His valentine quinkunx my N valentine/Siva

His N.N conj my N Psyche/DC/angel
His N.N opp my N sun

My valentine 20,48 in capricorn in conj to his N valentine 23,17, I count it just because I in moon/venus/mars persona have my valentine in conj to his N valentine

MARS PERSONA CHART
his valentien conj my draco venus
his valentine trine draco valentine/siva
His valentine opp draco amor/wertex
His valentine Square my N amor/wertex
His valentine sqyare my N venus
His valentine quinkunx my N valentine/siva
His valentine conj my N DC/angel/BML
His valentine opp my N SUN

My MP valentine conj his N valentine in capricorn


KARMA PERSONA CHART
His venus conj my n venus 0-1
his karma conj my N draco karma
his amor sext my N Sun/AC exact
his valentine sex my N moon 0-0.2
his hera conj my N moon 0-1

My karma conj my KP juno
My valentine quinkuns his venus


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posted February 16, 2010 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Some observations about my Moon Persona chart...

My Vertex is exactly opposite my birth chart Vertex!

My Mars is exactly cnj my birth chart Pluto, by one minute.

My ASC is exactly cnj my birth chart Juno.

My Venus is in Cancer; in my birth chart it's in Cap.

My ASC is in a water sign like in my bc. (Cancer and Scorpio.)

Duality -
1.
I always compare with the bc because the persona chart is part of the bc. It's the bc with a magnifying glass. The way your Moon behaves within your personality is shown by your bc. The persona chart further describes the personality of your Moon.

In my bc, my Sun and Moon are trine. My Sun and Moon work well together. My Moon persona reflects that, by putting its Mars exactly cnj my bc's Pluto. Pluto is an important planet for me since it rules my ASC. So from this, we can see that my Moon's impulsive actions (Mars) match my bc self. My lunar and solar self are in accord.

2 and 3.
I think the same sort of things would be significant as in bc synastry. I have noticed strong aspects (narrow ptolemaic, especially the cnj) between the Persona chart and the other person's corresponding planet in their bc. For instance, someone's bc Moon will be cnj the other person's MP ASC. Someone's bc Venus will be cnj the other's person's VP Mars, things like that. Overall though, I don't look for anything in particular. I just see what's there.

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posted November 27, 2017 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonMystic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm just dabbling but my hubby moon persona
is cnj my described node by .04!

11' 52 Virgo his persona moon
11' 56 virgo my S.N

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