posted February 18, 2010 07:35 AM         

I feel a little bad resorting to pestering all the nice people of lindaland for advice, but everyone does always seem to give really helpful comments and I'm hoping astrology might provide some answers too.

So. There is this completely beguiling Pisces boy. One minute I am certain he likes me. The next I feel he is only playing with my emotions. It is driving me CRAZY as I can never be sure whether making a move will be reciprocated or shunned.

Would anyone be able to help if I posted some astro info? A composite or synastry?
I'll try and post a composite after this.
Any help at all would be hugely appreciated!

I have just realised that trying to list all his conflicting behaviour would take an age, but suffice to say he has been giving me strong physical body language signals that he likes me (lots of touching too) and refers to sex when talking to me a lot. And every night we're hanging out together and getting closer (emotionally and physically) and I think he will make a move, he never does.

But (if anyone has been bothered enough to keep reading up to this point ) last night was positively bizarre. He has got so close to me over the past week, and last night made a point of wanting to hang out with me and even watch a film I like. But before we watched the film we were chatting and he asked me why I don't like this guy in our dorm (we're at university) who likes me. I was just like "well, I just don't. Why do you want to know?" and then kept going silent, then asked again. And at one very very strange moment (yes, this will sound bizarre) he was touching my face (like I said, we touch each other a lot... even in strange playful ways) and he was putting his finger over my mouth and ASKED me to get off with this guy and said "Do it for me".

Now. What the frig is that all about??? I am rather freaked out by this... sort of getting the impression he would be turned on to see me get off with other people. Yet when I asked him what on earth that was about he clammed up and said nothing.
But then later is getting under the duvet with me watching this film... being strangely distant but at the same time occasionally prodding me or nudging my leg.

posted February 18, 2010 07:53 AM         

Here we go. This is the composite. I don't know if this will explain anything.
Just in case our individual placements help-

Planet Me Him
ASC Capricorn Leo
Sun Virgo Pisces
Moon Aries Virgo
Mercury Virgo Pisces
Venus Virgo/Leo Aries
Mars Gemini Gemini

We both have Sun and Mercury in 8th. I think my Sun would be in his 2nd house... and I think his Sun is in my 1st.

posted February 18, 2010 10:50 AM         

Hey DD, is this more useful for you?

posted February 18, 2010 11:25 AM         

They are very elusive. He probably does like you, but who knows if he'll stick around.

I have NO IDEA what to make of the comment about the other guy. I wouldn't like it. Maybe it was his (twisted) way of saying he wants to be with you, but he's too shy to say it. I don't know.

posted February 18, 2010 12:01 PM         

Also, if you were with someone else, maybe he thinks he could stop wondering if YOU are interested or not, and so regain some sense of inner balance? Of course only if he is interested in you.

For the astrology; I donīt think it can say for CERTAIN if he is into you or not.

Your DESC-ruler conjuncts his ASC and ASC ruler, as does your 8th house ruler, too. So I guess from your side there is definitely interest.

On a first glance I donīt see such strong conjunctions from his attraction planets and points (Venus, Mars, ruler of DESC and 5th house) to your chart.
But I will have a closer look after dinner.

Oh your Mars is in his 5th house, that could be a hot placement.

The DESC rulers square each other - so maybe you want different things in a relationship?

His ASC and DESC ruler seems to be square, so probably he doesn`t even know what he wants in a relationship?

posted February 18, 2010 12:26 PM         

The ruler of your 5th house is in his 7th house though, so that could possibly give him the feeling that the way you express your feelings and love makes you a good potential partner.
He might be attracted to your expression of love or creativity.

Sometimes the reasons for an attraction are not just written in the natals, but also in the progressed charts.
So it would be nice if you had:

pr Sun conjunct / trine (opposite) pr or natal Venus
pr Venus conjunct / trine /(opposite) pr or natal Venus or pr or natal Mars

posted February 18, 2010 04:02 PM         

DD- wow, thank you. I have never had a synastry chart read before. I have to admit, due to my own poor skills at reading anything more complicated than a natal chart I found a couple of things confusing! Can I ask you about them?

-I am the outside chart in this synastry, he is on the inside (rather confusingly!) So.... (tell me if I've got confused!) isn't it HIS Descendant ruler conjuncting MY Ascendant and Ascendant ruler?
-Also, does that make it HIS Mars in my 5th house?

If this is right and I've confused things with putting him on the inside and me on the outside does this change the dynamics a bit? (Like meaning from *his* side there is definitely interest? )
And yup, if this were to be flipped (which I think it is...), I would definitely say I don't even know what I want from a relationship.

-Also, the 5th and 11th houses conjunct on both sides?

Thank you once again. I'll try and add those other things you asked for and post that up too!

posted February 18, 2010 04:33 PM         

And just to confuse things more, I'm on the inside this time!

As for the progressed chart... do you mean a progressed synastry chart, cos astro.com doesn't seem to be giving me that option! Or a progressed composite?

posted February 19, 2010 07:58 AM         

Let`s see, maybe I got confused.

Yes, you are right, his DESC ruler Uranus, 8th house ruler Neptune AND Juno (the marriage-partner asteroid) are all conjunct your ASC and ASC-ruler.
Whoa, I would think that if astrology is saying anything at all (and if there are no counter progressions which would modify this to the worse), I would think he is VERY drawn to you.

7th house ruler is what we are seeking in a partnership, what we are attracted to, usually for a committed relationship. Juno also seems to tell us what we are seeking in a marriage partner.
And all this lands on your ASC, the point of your identity. Maybe the most sensitive point of identity we have in our chart. So the way you are in a very physical, instinctive sense attracts him to you.

Saturn-Neptune seems to relate heavily to karmic relationships, especially if it is tied to the angles, nodes or personal planets.
http://www.throughnightsfire.com/SaturnNeptuneconnections.html

(I would suggest you read it through carefully; when I was reading it I was having many "light-bulb" moments)

His Mars falls into your 5th house - I like that even more, cause his sexual self, his masculine symbol triggers your house of romance. That must be a real spicy placement, but with Mars and 5th house being in verbal Gemini, maybe flirting or verbal sparring or communication in general can be experienced as really exciting.

You have Psyche-Psyche conjunct,w hich would make for a very intuitive, sensitive, maybe even telepathic (psychic as the name sais) connection.

Juno-Pluto conjunction seems to be very intense to me.

posted February 21, 2010 08:18 PM         

DD- Wow! I am quite excited now... I probably shouldn't be since astrology is only revealing what was already there... but I am just excited at the prospect that he could actually like me back.
Since it's conjunct my Ascendant does this mean that he's drawn to my Capricorn side the most?
Your comments on the Mars in Gemini in 5th are spot on. I do feel like a curiously romantic and sexual link with him and there is definitely verbal sparring. It's practically the only way we communicate...!

posted February 24, 2010 12:31 PM         

DD- I'm afraid I have no clue how to compare progressed charts but I'd be seriously grateful if you could tell me a little about it.

It's just. Things really aren't that great/straightforward between me and this guy and I'm starting to doubt if he does like me more than a friend, so I figure the progressed charts might shed some light on this?

Here's mine-

And here's his-