posted February 20, 2010 04:58 AM         

My Persona Chart:

posted February 20, 2010 05:08 AM         

Any other experiences with Persona Charts?

Thank you,
B.

posted February 21, 2010 05:54 AM         

I had never anybody with anything in conjunction with my Venus (here) at the end of Capricorn. Capricorn yes, but they are born from December 30th until January 1st. If I could, I would collect all men born January 1st. They have very similar look.

Here is Persona Chart for the life before past life.

I play with the Past life as the future life is over.

B.

posted February 21, 2010 06:06 AM         

How to explain here, that I was hanging myself, I am not sure. I know only that Jupiter is involved in that. Even If I would know I wouldn't write it here.

Here is also nothing in 12th, but I had life in Turkey before that life. As I was gypsy in India as a fortune-teller, who knows was I born there or somewhere else.

B.

posted February 21, 2010 06:08 AM         

I see, what you mean. I should do it with hand, but that is too difficult. There is no programm for SN Chart.

B.

posted February 21, 2010 07:18 AM         

My NN P karma conj my N Saturn 0-1
My NN P moon conj my N MC 0-1
My NN P eros conj N chiron 0-1

MY NN P Sun conj my NN P DNA = conj my N Hygiea/Lova/Tyche/mars 0-1

MY NN P chiron conj my part of mirriage 0-1
MY NN P venus conj my N prosperina/nymf/Pan 0-1

MY NN P valentine opp my NN P venus 0

posted February 21, 2010 08:02 AM         

Thank you for advice. I don't find it.

Here, Draconic Chart: http://tinypic.com/r/f21rtz/6

My Moira in 8th: what a "nice" place!
NN in 7th: no aspects! Better and better!

How come can be NN in the same house;
in Moon Persona Chart and Draconic Chart?

B.

posted February 21, 2010 08:16 AM         

1. Go to astro.com

2. Go to "extended chart selection"

3. Under METHODS there is a box that reads: Natal chart wheel; click on this box

4. Scroll down until you find "Persona chart"

5. Click to show the chart on it.

6. Under your name there is a box that reads PERSONA chart PLANET and in that box there is MOON.

7, Click on it and scroll down until you get to descending lunar node.

posted February 21, 2010 08:57 AM         

You are very good teacher but I am bad student.

Here is the Chart:

It looks strange to me.

posted February 21, 2010 09:12 AM         

My South Node Persona has KAALI conjunct Chiron exact.... my most recent client from an elite occultist Latin American family [who is secretly deprogramming from Mind Control in Europe] has Kaali conjunct Chiron exact as well.

South Node Person'a Angel and DNA both conjunct Sirius.... Pluto conjuncts SIVA exact, Venus conjuncts LUST, Moon conj Aldebaran, Nessus sq True Node, Nessus opp GIZA, GIZA exact conj SUMERIA etc etc etc

posted February 21, 2010 09:25 AM         

You are very professional for all those Asteroids.
I need one week to understand, what is here going on. If I am honest, I don't like this Chart at all. Maybe I should study more about all Asteroids and all you wrote there, but I am not professional Astrologer. It is a bit too much for me.
Most of all I like Synastry: from the first day on. Why there is love between two people and why is not? We can see it that with few Asteroids. Sometimes there is no need of Asteroids at all.

B.

posted February 21, 2010 11:53 AM         

why don`t you like that chart?
Interestingly there is an exact Venus-Jupiter-conjunction in equal 10th house.

Love (Venus)of a king / prince (Jupiter), which has been very much in the public eye (9th and 10th house)?
(of course that is only one possible interpretation)

Sabian of this degree is:
A Path Through Woods Brilliant With Multicolored Splendor

The word "splendor" caught my attentiont this time.

Fortuna-Juno-conjunction - a fortunate marriage, or at least one in a "wealthy" environment?

ASC is on the same degree as my natal Anubis (and Draco Pluto); therefore I know the Sabian from the top of my mind:
A woman reading tea leaves.

Maybe you were kind of a seer back then, or at least had some talents in this regard?

Ruler of ASC is in Leo in 7th house - which could also be a sign of a royal (Leo) relationship (7th house) - with Saturn being retograde, maybe something had gone wrong?

The Sabian of your NN of this life is:
A Negro Girl Fights For Her Independence In The City

Maybe you had to learn becoming more independent?
Especially from your family and upbringing back then (NN in 4th house).

It`s widely squaring Moon in Virgo in 7th house - maybe your marriage, that gave some kind of (financial and emotional) security opposed your will to be free or to become independent?

Chiron widely squares Saturn by 4 degrees, so I guess there were some severe restriction and wounds in this life.

Uranus opposing Sun reiterating the theme of independence, but not without a price.

IQ,

"My South Node Persona has KAALI conjunct Chiron exact"
How would you interprete this=?

"South Node Person'a Angel and DNA both conjunct Sirius...."
Oh wow.

"Pluto conjuncts SIVA exact, Venus conjuncts LUST, Moon conj Aldebaran, Nessus sq True Node, Nessus opp GIZA, GIZA exact conj SUMERIA etc etc etc"
You think in that past life you`ve had a strong desire-nature?
And that there was misuse or abuse, especially pointing back to a past lifeline to Egypt, Atlantis and Sumeria?

posted February 21, 2010 12:12 PM         

(Grand watertrine of Kaali/Venus/Karma on ASC trine Siva trine Atlantis / Vesta on Midheaven).

posted February 21, 2010 12:18 PM         

ASC:
A Young Woman Awaiting A Sailboat

Kaali
A Woman And Two Men Castaways On A Small Island Of The South Seas

Siva
A Rabbit Metamorphoses Into A Nature Sprit

Vesta, Atlantis
Under The Watchful And Kind Eye Of A Chinese Servant, A Girl Fondles A Little White Lamb

Midheaven
A "Materializing" Medium Giving A Seance

Additionally there are:

HEKATE on 28 Leo conjunct LILITH on 1 Virgo (seems I can`t escape this conjunction )

APHRODITE on 7 Libra conjunct ADONIS on 8 Libra conjunct PLUTO on 6 Libra, squaring INANNEN on 8 Cancer

HERA on 24 Aries conjunct Chiron on 26 Aries

ISIS on 17 Aries conjunct JUPITER and SUMERIA

LUCIFER exact conjunct SEKHMET on 18 Gemini
with the Sabian
A Large Archaic Volume Reveals A Traditional Wisdom

(Yes, the temptations of knowledge, or actually a selfish use of it - not totally unknown to me; I actually was always being scared of using my knowledge the wrong way, maybe this conjunctions reflects this)

I just see, PoF on 13 -14 Aries
A Serpent Coiling Near A Man And A Woman

posted February 21, 2010 12:45 PM         

Thank you very much for explanation.

You wrote:

1. Love (Venus)of a king / prince (Jupiter), which has been very much in the public eye (9th and 10th house)?
(of course that is only one possible interpretation)-----
The man, prince being my husband, in North England (in the past life before past life) has Venus and Jupiter in Scorpio. He was my Karma in this life for very long time and now is no more.

2. Fortuna - Juno conjunction:
It was like that (by Regression).
Funny is, that I have now Juno in Libra in the 1st and Fortuna in 12th (has left me)

3. Ruler of ASC is in Leo in 7th house - which could also be a sign of a royal (Leo) relationship (7th house) - with Saturn being retrograde, maybe something had gone wrong?

I have hanged myself. That was wrong.

4. Maybe you had to learn becoming more independent?
Especially from your family and upbringing back then (NN in 4th house)-----

Here about independence: I must be independent because of my steady pains.
In each case, even without pains I would be much worse. I like more my NN (today) in 9th than in 4th then. I don't have home anyway. There is all destroyed.
Beside that I went from the home very early: with 20 years. My late mother wasn't very happy to see me once a year. After her death I have dreamed her for more than 10 years.

DD, you are excellent!

I still like more your Chart than mine.

Thank you once more,
B.

posted February 21, 2010 12:51 PM         

Something more: I have feeling that you were in India in the Past life. Maybe you and IQ were some relatives?

If you didn't have Regression, you should do it. I would do again, but now I am afraid. To live three times is enough. This should be forth life. Therapist told me that there are more, but she was very tired from my screaming (by hanging myself).

posted February 21, 2010 01:15 PM         

No, I won´t do past life regressions. I am convinced that there is a reason we sometimes do not have access to certain past life lines, and I trust my Higher SElf that it shows me what I need to see or can somehow deal with, and that those things I am not ready to know about are still in the dark.

Besides, I have had more than enough of these past life recalls, either in dreams or meditations.

posted February 21, 2010 01:22 PM         

I think I may have been burnt as a witch in a past life.
There are five things that make me think this:
1. I was having a birthmark, that looked like a gigantic fire-wound, just much more pale.
2. I was terribly afraid of fire as a child (when other children are toying with candles and so on, I would be panicking), and even today it cost me very much courage to even light up a lighter.
3. When I was a kid up into my puberty I was often having recurring nightmares about fire, either that I was being burnt, or that in the house of my family, in which I was, a fire broke, and I couldn`t get out.
4. I still up to this day sometimes have the smell of burnt flesh in my nose.
5. When I was forced to watch "the name of the Rose" with my class, there is a scene, in which a girl shall be burnt I think.
I have no idea how that scene went on, as when it came on I suddenly had the feeling I was not getting any oxygene anymore and blacked out completely.
I think I may have ran out of class, because I came to myself again, only when I was standing outside that door.

posted February 21, 2010 02:28 PM         

I have pains because of hanging myself. It was in May 1992 when my female doctor in the Spa on sea side told me, I have to do Regression to see why nobody helps me? Where is the cause of my pains? She told me that giving me electro acupuncture and I was looking her head. There were lots of normal acupuncture needles in her hair. It was funny to me and I have asked her, why she has it? She told me about her steady headaches and she can help herself only on that way. Even to her nobody did help. Nobody knew where from she headache had (today doctors don’t know the cause of headaches).
She went to Regression and therefore she knew about that. I should go too, she told me.
I didn't ask her what the cause was but went in July 1992 to the therapist, woman who did it without hypnosis. On that way I can hear her talking to me and me talking to her about all I have seen.
When I came to the second life, I have seen myself few minutes before I was hanged. Before that my "husband" then came through the door, but it was too late. I had time to see his face and heard his voice asking me: why I am doing that?

Later I was thinking about him: it was my dearest person in this life. It is easy when we do Regression after something already happened.
After I was just to "die" I have started to scream from the pains (on the bed). The same pains I have today: all my right side. From the right eye until right shoulder joint. That is why I am horrified seeing some movie with hanged people.

I have recognized this man because we met each other in Germany, when I was 27 years old. After, I didn't get Visa for USA, to get married my fiancé from CA, USA, I have met this man, 1,5 years later. It was some kind of deja vu!

It was the time, when I have met also right doctor, I was 25 years old. He did help me just with one shot (injection).
It looks like all was prepared to meet my love from the past life.

Later we have separated and I was thinking all the time about him. My good health was from 25 till 30 years and after that pains came back. Maybe because of him, I don’t know.

It is more about that, but it is enough for now.

B.