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Agent_009
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posted February 20, 2010 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just gleaned on what IQ had written, & I'm curious to learn more on what this is about & why it's special? I'm also posting up someone I know, who happens to be born in 77' with Aries SN. I believe he very well may possibly be an Aries Asc as well, but I dont have his birth time. Anyone's welcome to comment, can anyone see what's so special/or not, about this guy?...& I will give feedback afterwards. Both charts are the same, but just with different asteroids.

IQ said: [I have a soft corner for Aries Ascendants and all 1977 borns. The 1977 borns with Aries Ascendant who have South Node Aries, we have the most difficult life path where success is virtually impossible until rigorous trials are passed. This is not just my analysis but also the analysis of Mystic-Psychic 'Atlantis Recalling' Astrologer Karen Dess of Australia, one my "initiators" in Astrology.]

IQ,
Why is it the most difficult? because your exhibiting Aries Asc traits when your supposed to stop relying on the Aries SN? I've read in a book before, that Aries Asc is supposed to be a karmic reward & makes life easier cuz all the houses are in sync with the signs...from your experiences you dont think so? The definition of success is different for everyone. I'd say your pretty successful as you've found a soulmate wife & established a good family pretty early on.


...ooops, left out his KARMA, 8deg Cappy...sext Uranus, sq Pluto, tr Chiron.

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lindaGreg
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posted February 20, 2010 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindaGreg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Agent_009,

I think you are referring the response that IQ gave to my chart.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/203439.html

I would love to know more information on this as well.

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Agent_009
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posted February 20, 2010 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lindagreg,

YES! so thanks to you for bringing up this topic to begin with!

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lindaGreg
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posted February 20, 2010 09:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindaGreg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey,

I have no credit to take here. I am just a seeker just as you are

I am not sure how many Aries Ascendants (BTW I am Virgo by Sun, and Aries by Moon) can relate to this but here are some traits I strongly have:

1)Brutal Honesty:

Unfortunately I cannot sensor my thoughts that easily. This is especially dangerous in ones career. I say as I feel. This may sound as a cliche` virtue, but it far from the truth. I cannot hide my feelings; no matter whether they are good or bad; sensitive or insenstive. God help me!!

2)Hasty Vs Procrastinating Actions:

Either I make decisions at the speed of light, or I postpone things by not taking any action. There is nothing moderate in between. It drives me mad.

3)Always looking for perfection in relationships:

I don't make friends just for the sake of it. I don't end up in relationship just because I happen to be single, or because it is a norm. This is why I have handful friends ( or, do I?) and I have been only into two intense relationships till date even though I am 32.

4) Why can't I be like the rest?

I don't like getting married; I have no intentions to have kids, ever; It does not matter to me even if I cannot live with my partner as long as we genuinely love each other; I love my freedom and expect nothing less for my partner; This does not mean I support swingers I believe in love in its truest forms. This goes to show, I will remain this way as a single, for rest of my life.

ALAS!!

Sorry, I am just ranting...

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iQ
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posted February 21, 2010 02:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brutal Honesty, Impatience, Strong Will... are all the delights of my Aries Ascendant Clan.

But when the South Node is Aries, then we are asked to suppress what we do best [Go it alone and win] for the sake of teamwork and cooperation. The reason is this combination is largely of Samurai type warrior souls. We marched hungry, slept on dirt and would rather die than complain. And we looked down on whiners. We never tried to feel what others felt.

What about 1977?
Chiron was discovered in 1977, the wounded healer, the occult teacher.

The 1977 born Aries-Asc Aries South Noders were the ultimate warriors. We used occult techniques in warfare. Many of us were directly responsible for the Atlantis Mess.

The past life mistakes make this batch far more conflicted in the inside. We want to achieve more in this super hi-tech age yet our Karmic destiny is to be more spiritual for the sake of others [Libra North Node].
Our 'spiritual wound' of wounding others in the past as warriors will heal only if we heal the wounds of others in the present.
Past life Sword Warrior to Present day Light "Worker" and then Spiritual Warrior of the future.

Generally, notice how the 1966 batch is awakening. Next it will be 1977 and ultimately 1988, to usher in the positive changes for Earth.

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lindaGreg
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posted February 21, 2010 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindaGreg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my God! In that case has this got anything to do with my obsession to communicate with this man that I love so much, through alternative ways (i.e telepathy)?

Somehow I have this urge to heal him in my own little ways from his present life wounds (he loved someone very deeply only to realize that she was never interested in him).

I somehow feel like I have this responsibility to heal him without actually making a fool out of myself. I don't want him to think that I am a nut case

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posted February 21, 2010 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindaGreg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ,

You are absolutely right with that comment about South Node Aries people, as they are always forced to suppress their true personalities

That is 100% accurate. I find this problem all the time at workplace. Because everytime when I say something truthfully and honestly, people find it rather bold or naive or stupid on my part to be that open about my feelings or thoughts. They rather have no issues with sugar-coated comments. I get really frustrated in such environments; so much so that I have quit three different jobs just to retain my integrity.

Isn't there a way to this, or are we cursed for the rest of our lives. Alas!

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posted February 21, 2010 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for squirrel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi!

What about us born in 1977 with Aries SN but Scorpio rising?

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lindaGreg
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posted February 21, 2010 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindaGreg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably what he said applies to all in that year.

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posted February 21, 2010 05:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, it only applies to Aries ASC.

ASC shows a very important part of yourself, of your identity. If you have Aries ASC, then part of your identity is ARIES.

Now with SN in Aries and NN in Libra, the direction of one`s lifepath is to Libra, learning to be more LIBRA, that means one has to "leave" the comfort zone of the SN in Aries (comfort zone because it is familiar ground), BUT at the same time for an Aries ASC it is also one of the most dominant parts of the personality, so it can`t be really left behind.
That means that you have to find a way to solve the tension between the Aries traits, you already have and are familiar to you, and the Libra traits that need to be developed.


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posted February 21, 2010 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrobelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello! Hope you don't mind me piping in. I'm a 1977'er as well...born April 18th. I'm a double Aries (sun & moon) conjunct my SN and opposite the NN, Aqua Asc.

I don't know if I technically qualify -- though I sure can relate to being brutally honest. Also when it comes to making decisions, I'm the same way. Either snap (very instinctual) or, pain stakingly forevverrr!!

IQ, you mentioned Chiron being discovered in 77...I've heard this before. My Sun is at 28 degrees and my Chiron is 1 degree Taurus. Would you count that as a conjunction? Also, as a side note my Asc is @ 3 degrees Aqua. I've always wondered how those two aspects would be viewed. Any insight would be fantastic!

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posted February 22, 2010 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
<< That means that you have to find a way to solve the tension between the Aries traits, you already have and are familiar to you, and the Libra traits that need to be developed. >>
Its like asking Obelix to defeat a Roman with a lecture than beating him up...

Astrobelle, it will be very difficult for you to master the Libra NN, being a double Aries.
The Sun is definitely conjunct Chiron and will actually be a blessing in disguise. You can identify with other's wounds, and use this identification to learn cooperation for healing and education. Chiron was the teacher of the gods [Pierce Brosnan does a great job of portraying Chiron in the recent Percy Jackson flick.]

Aquarius Ascendant will help you understand the frequency of all that is not orthodox. In these times of change, it can only be a blessing.

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posted February 22, 2010 05:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindaGreg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess it should apply to me as well

Aries ASC
Aries Moon
Virgo Sun

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DD
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posted February 22, 2010 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Its like asking Obelix to defeat a Roman with a lecture than beating him up."

Yes, I thought it must be really difficult.


I wonder, since my ASC is conjunct my NN, if it is easier for me to develop these NN traits, as I already have them?

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posted February 22, 2010 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astrobelle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IQ -- thank you for your time and such accurate, insightful interpretation. Very appreciated!

"it will be very difficult for you to master the Libra NN, being a double Aries."

Boy is that true. I've always been drawn to Libras -- always hoping some of their magic and grace might rub off on me.

"The Sun is definitely conjunct Chiron and will actually be a blessing in disguise. You can identify with other's wounds, and use this identification to learn cooperation for healing and education. Chiron was the teacher of the gods [Pierce Brosnan does a great job of portraying Chiron in the recent Percy Jackson flick.]"

Good to know! That explains some things... LOL...though I think sometimes people have a hard time with a bossy Aries' "feeling" And being up in their face and wounds. Probably would be easier if I was a water sun or moon. On the positive, even though it can be awkward at times, it's so beautiful to connect with people and truly understand where they are coming from. And if I can effect them in any positive way -- I'm a happy camper.

...I will have to check out and watch that movie! I've always enjoyed Pierce B!

"Aquarius Ascendant will help you understand the frequency of all that is not orthodox. In these times of change, it can only be a blessing."

I agree. I really enjoy having an Aqua Asc. Since I was a little girl, I always felt different and a little "off"...I attribute it to the part of my consciousness that taps me on the shoulder to look for the greater good in man and the truth in the universe -- that, and LOVE astrology!!!

IQ, if I wished to consult you with some other personal questions regarding my chart, what is the best way to get in touch without taking up forum space?

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posted February 22, 2010 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquariusMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so is this thread ONLY for 1977 folks with aires asc? i have a very close friend born in 1977 with libra asc and nn in the first. what if your nn is in the first? he needs to be more libra, he already kind of is, a push over sort of, co dependent type, sees himself through other people. he wishes he was like an aires.

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posted February 22, 2010 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquariusMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sorry i read the thread wrong, it is all born in 1977 with aires asc only!

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posted February 24, 2010 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Agent_009     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So I'm wondering, do you guys...the general consensus here with these Aries aspects find that success is really hard to come by? (as IQ had said). I mean compared to others around you??

I'm asking because, the guy who's chart I posted up...he exhibits all the negative Aries traits x100. However he also leads a ridiculously charmed life x100 too.

Anyways, I could relate with you guys on some level. I have a 1H cardinal stellium, so it's very aries-like. I can be impatient, ambitious, aggressive, blunt as hell too. Although it's never in an emotional/explosive way...and just from looking at me, you cant tell either.

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posted February 25, 2010 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AquariusMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what if you were born in 1977 and start dating someone with Aires planets, do these people hold them back from their true potential.

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lindaGreg
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posted January 04, 2011 08:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindaGreg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting thread

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ash
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posted January 05, 2011 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yup IQ ur so right about Aries SN. Im a Aqua Asc with Gem Moon so having Lib NN is kinda okay. The part that is quite stressful sometimes is my SN Aries is in my 2nd house & Lib NN in my 8th. I have to constantly balance up my materialistic instincts & my spirituality outlook in life. Finding a middle path can be quite tiresome...

p.s. born on 23 dec 77

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posted January 05, 2011 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OMG, OMG, OMG, i never saw this thread! i'm 77' with Aries SN. AND all the things lindaGreg listed, 1)Brutal Honesty 2)Hasty Vs Procrastinating Actions 3)Always looking for perfection in relationships 4) Why can't I be like the rest? -apply as if it was fashioned for me.

until very recently, this brutal honesty thing was really THE character i trophied. i believed in it. i never understood other people who could not be like that, and be offended and hurt by me. now my current partner has taught me the art of subtlety and the importance of it.

but that aside, it is really fair to say that my life has been the struggle after struggle to break out of the repression and the pressure to conform. and i am NOT a rebel, i don't aspire to be eccentric and different. i'd be happy to "belong" and be "just like the others". it's in my blood, i'm just a "freak" (so i used to believe. it's just individuality).

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The 1977 borns with Aries Ascendant who have South Node Aries, we have the most difficult life path where success is virtually impossible until rigorous trials are passed.

since my Ascendant is Sagittarius and Jupiter falls on Cancer (which is said to be the lucky placement), i sure hope it's not "impossible" for me to overcome the obstacles in my life. i do feel my Aries SN cj. moon a heavy burden though. THIS really has been getting in my way at every turn.

i mean to reach the place i deserve. i made it so far so i won't accept it as impossible! after all that, i'd expect things to get easier in my life.

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aquarian/scorpio
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posted January 06, 2011 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aquarian/scorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting I am Aries Asc but I have Aries N.N conjunct Mars in Aries (12H) so I suppose this gives me an extra push in my N.N direction?

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