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DiandraReborn25
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posted February 23, 2010 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
Lara+s example made me think about my Father.

He never knew his time of birth,only that he was born in the morning.

This is him,very young when he was in the "ultramar",fighting for the colonies,in Angola,moçambique etc.


Some events of his Life ( that i know of..):

He never had problems of money cause his parents had a nice market in the Village where my father was born.

my Grandpa was a cute,nice,friendly and a good-hearted man that helped the poor,giving them food when they didnt had money to buy.

my grandma was a bit difficult to handle:my father has a sister,byt my Granda always prefered my father,treating him with great care,and doing all his wantins,a thing that later transformed my father with a "unique child syndrome"...hihihihi poor Mother of mine hihihihi

My father was supposed to marry with a woman arranged by my grandma ( who had money)but my father didnt wanted that.
He met my mother and couldnt be without her anymore...they dated in secret.

my father was attending the 1st year of law shchool,but gave up few time after having met my Mother.

She was from a big family with not all that money,so my parents married in secret ( with my granda ( mother´s mother)was only witness.they didnt took photos either...

Married in 19march 1967.

My sister was born in 7june 1966 and my father+s parents only knew that my father was married when my mother convinced him,that they had to meet my sister.

my granda never liked my mother that much...my mom was too beautiful,too strong willed.and my grandma always had jeallous of my Mom.in her latest years,my Mom took her and took care of my grandma,but i think that not even that made my grandma a more tolerant and forgiven person...

in 1968 my father was called to the military,he had to be prepared to fight for the COuntry,in Africa. he stayed there2 years i think.

My mother after some months went to be with my father and took my sister.they were there for 9 months.

my brother was born in 5march 1971.

me and my twin were born in august 1983.we were a surprise for everybody cause my mother wanst trying to get pregnant.

my father worked at the textil companies for awhile and then passed to a business he started to construct with my mother.

a small business that started in our garage ( in the year of 1982/1983)while my mom was pregnant of me and my twin.

the business was in textile matters and after lot of work started to give money,they passed onto a small renting place.
i was little but i remember going there and the money was always entering at a bigger scale. they afforded to pay our house in all,and started thinking big...too big says my Mother now.

all the money they had,my father wanted to put in a big construction for their business.my mother didnt wanted but it was convinced.they spent almost a million i guess and the business was there.

unfortunately years later,all sorts of events started happening,my father spent too much it wasnt a good manager.he never knew how to deal with mney cause he was educated in a way that the money was made to spent and that it will always be there,abundantly appearing....dahhhh

no need to say that my mother started to get fed up.the bills stated to appear,my father doing bad decisions,bad contracts and to worse things,his pride was big enought not to stop when he needed.

my mother closed the door and started the child store where i am now at times.

my Father continued awhile in the business but the debts were bigger and bigger and he had to deliver ALL to the government to pay the bills.he went to the courts to prove the bankrupcy ( we had some nasty robberies that the insureance companies didnt payed..and that contributed to the early closing too...).

there was no way to save the business of a lifetime.

in 2005,and i guess the big company closed really around 2004 or 2005,my father asked me to be the signer of papers.of a new company a small one to start again.so that money will enter.cause we were needing it.
i agreed but after i got out of college in 2006 i discovered my father was already in debts again,with my name on it.

only in 2009 i convinced him to close this small thing cause i didnt wanted to have more debts. we´re still in debts of course but at least he is not making anymore bad decisions on it.
he is retired but with a lousy value and now doenst want to work or be active anymore.

i walays wanted to know his birt time and sutydy his chart.

i guess i talked too much...solarc arcs for me are too complex.i dont know where to start.but does his appearance screams a specific ascendant?

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Lara
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posted February 23, 2010 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Diandra,

I think you need more dates - and accurate dates that are on the exact date something big happened.

Solar Arcs demand an exact degree because otherwise your AC could be anything.

Can you get more dates please of things like operations, moving house and divorce or job loss? I'm not sure this is enough. Births don't always show on AC/DC axis from what i can see of doing it myself so there you immediately have a problem.

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DiandraReborn25
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posted February 23, 2010 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
Lara

thank you.
so i need days specially right?hmmm i must ask my Mother then for more details but she will think it s strange for me doing such questions hihihihi

im remembering something big:an operation he had.

i need exact date of banrupcy;
exact date of then the business started and went off for both times.
date of death of my grandparents maybe..
he never divorced from my mom fortunately.

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Lara
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posted February 23, 2010 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
You need EXACT dates.

If you look at mine, i had exact dates for illnesses, moving house, divorces, relatives deaths.
When i compared these dates in the Solar Arcs, there was always something EXACT cj my AC or DC.

For instance, my AC is now 23' Aries.
date of my grandfather's death. SA NN 23' Aries.
date of my first divorce. SA uranus 23' Libra. SA AC cj n mars 0'.
date of my 2nd marriage. SA venus cj N Mars 0'. Progressed MC cj n IC 0'.
Parents divorce. T Uranus cj n DC 0'.

Just look at my thread with my aspects.
With birth of kids there are too many variables, as you will see from my list on my thread.

Good luck!

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DiandraReborn25
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posted February 23, 2010 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
i got it thank you!

the most accurate the better then.

let´s see what i can come up with

i already saw your thread thoroughly.it was fascinating to see Geo´s explanations and way of working.

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Lara
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posted February 23, 2010 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
any SA aspect under 1/2 a degree i would think is ok.
If Pluto is on your Dad's DC @ 3' then his AC can't be 2' or 4'.

It really is EXACT!

Well, remember Diandra that before i started that thread GCV and l already had an AC degree of 23' Aries to check against.

When you have NO BIRTH TIME then it's very very difficult.
I have done this for years now and i still didn't get it right!

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Lara
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posted February 23, 2010 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
scorpio or gemini AC?
He has the same eyebrows as Groucho Marx! He was:

Libra sun
gemini moon
scorpio AC


well he's already pisces sun, aries moon. hmmm he doesn't look at all Aries. Could he be Taurus moon?
thos eyebrows will be part of his AC sign for sure cos they are not very piscean nor arian

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Lara
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posted February 23, 2010 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
This fits him to a tee:

"Virgo rising men have a very prominent nose, thick eyebrows, curious eyes, oval faces and broad square foreheads."

He has a broad square forehead, oval face, curious eyes, prominent nose AND THICK eyebrows!

What do you think?

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DiandraReborn25
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posted February 23, 2010 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
Lara

that sounds really fitting for my father!!definatelly.

he is very faithfull and loyal to my mother,and guess what?my mother has Virgo ASC27º

i would not be surprised if my father is virgo asc,cause me and my twin are virgos and seems natural that we all have our angles together

i out the time 11 randomly i just dont have any clue of his time...neither does he...

you´re right:it is very hard to do this without any time to work on,at least a range of time that is tiny.you already had a specific degree and sign to work with,yup...

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Lara
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posted February 25, 2010 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Good, i'm glad it fits

Now you have to rely on exact dates and SA aspects

good luck! Not easy at all x

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