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belgz
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posted February 25, 2010 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
Deleting memories

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Ami Ann
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posted February 25, 2010 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
One thing I know about abuse is that it NEVER gets any better unless YOU get very strong and don't allow one ounce of it.
I learned this too late!
I wish I could help on the charts but am not experienced enough.
My heart goes out to you, Belgz. There is nothing worse than torn family relationships!
x o x Ami

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Predominantlyfire
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posted February 25, 2010 07:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Predominantlyfire     Edit/Delete Message
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I swore I would never talk to him again!
Well don't then. Simple. I stick to things like that like you wouldn't believe. I've ignored friends for years even at close range if i've decided they're no good. You need a certain amount of stubborness and arrogance to do this. I'm not sure if you could quite cut it.
He sounds like an idiot. Just because he's family so what? F*ck him.
To make sure you don't - i'm going to state that if you ever speak to him again I'LL never speak to you. Ok.
Just scrubb him out of your life. And don't speak to your mother either. Block her on facebook and move, and change your number. I'm being serious btw.

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lindaGreg
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posted February 25, 2010 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindaGreg     Edit/Delete Message
I can't believe what I read. Hey PDF, where do you get to speak ill of others like that. Don't you think you are crossing your limits there? Think hard

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belgz
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posted February 25, 2010 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
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Ami Ann
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posted February 25, 2010 08:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
You know,Linda,people who are being abused NEED strength.
Their problem is that their inherent strength is NOT being used for their own well being.
Tough love can be the best love.
I know of what I speak--unfortunately. Ami

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lindaGreg
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posted February 25, 2010 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindaGreg     Edit/Delete Message
I understand the problem here, but I was just taken back by PDF's usage of words. That's all.

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Ami Ann
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posted February 25, 2010 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Tough love is tough, by definition----right?
Ami

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Lara
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posted February 25, 2010 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Im so sorry Belgz.

You know i have a similar thing with my mother. I last spoke to her Christmas 2000 and i last saw her then too. She was 61 this January. I have missed her entire 50's!

My family make no effort to encourage us to forgive and forget. My story is ridiculous and revolves around some letters that my ex husband wrote to my mother. In then he was exceptionally rude about my StepFather so i do understand your anger and your sadness.

It's a horrible feeling - i'm afraid you need to come to a place of peace where it no longer affects you - only then will you be able to look at it objectively and without too much pain.

Love and hugs to you

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Ami Ann
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posted February 25, 2010 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Belgz
Has your Mother always been jealous of you?
Just a thought that hit me. I may be wrong.
Ami

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Lara
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posted February 25, 2010 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with PDF...

just because they are family, so what.

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belgz
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posted February 25, 2010 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
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lindaGreg
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posted February 25, 2010 09:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindaGreg     Edit/Delete Message
Hey I am sorry, I didn't know that you were close. As a matter of fact, I posted that message about my brother. I love him so much, which is why, my response was rather instinctive. PDF, mate sorry that I went off tangent with you.

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Lara
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posted February 25, 2010 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Belgz,

My sister is 31.
I haven't spoken to her for 10 years either.

8 years ago (when she was 23) she was diagnosed with Lymph Cancer. She fought it.

Now i hear through a couple of friends that her cancer is back. I have doubts on her pulling through this one. I have doubts i'll ever see her alive again.

I'm not about to let it destroy my own life though. I am a single mother with 3 kids whom need me to be strong and positive for them.

So you see, if life gives you lemons; make lemonade.

This is one of my favourite quotes:
"Never tell your problems to anyone - 20% don't care and 80% are glad you have them"

It's so true!


If you wanna offload, feel free to PM me on FB. I am in a similar space to you on this one, although i am further down the road of acceptance and peace, simply because i've had a decade of it now!

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Lara
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posted February 25, 2010 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I hear you.

Let go. It's ok.

Don't have a baby just to create a family environment. I did that and now i'm 41, single in the frigging countryside with 3 kids and STUCK!

You have to buy freedom which is not easy!


Like i said, i'm on FB if you wanna talk about it.
I have disowned almost my entire family. They were only being negative to my life anyway much like yours - so i just don't bother with any of them, apart from my father whom i see for lunch sometimes.

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Ami Ann
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posted February 25, 2010 09:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Belgz
I identify with that feeling of being alone--no family or family who will push you down.
I have felt alone struggling with these feelings.
Thank you for sharing, you and Lara and the other people who have shared on here.
I have been combating these feelings in isolation,too much.
Ami

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belgz
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posted February 25, 2010 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
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lindaGreg
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posted February 25, 2010 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lindaGreg     Edit/Delete Message
OMG belgz!! I really did not imagine the extent of your mum's cruelty. Wow, it is hard to believe that one's own mother would do so much harm to her own kids. To me it is unimaginable. I am so sorry to hear this.

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belgz
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posted February 25, 2010 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
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Ami Ann
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posted February 25, 2010 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, God, the pain of rejection by your own mother.
There is something so unnatural about it
What animal rejects it's young?
It stays so deep, so tightly bound inside and it pushes you to do things that are not good for you.
All the unconscious patterns that ran my life:I can see some of them now but still feel stuck as to how to move on.
My new chart with the proper Ascendent helps me to see the path. I must accept all of myself, not just the "pretty parts".
I have many ugly parts. I never wanted to look at them and so I could be a prisoner of others and of myself.
My prison keys were my unwillingness to face who I was --down deep--the bad parts.
For me, my life was a continual striving to be perfect enough for my mother--again and again--with everyone and every situation.
Maybe I can stop, now. I hope so.
Thanks for letting me talk. I want to erase this LOL. Ami

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Ami Ann
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posted February 25, 2010 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
How does your father treat you, Belgz? Does he stand up for you?
Are you parents still married to each other?
Will your father ever defy your mother in your favor? Ami

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belgz
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posted February 25, 2010 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
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belgz
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posted February 25, 2010 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
I am going to raise a great family. I feel it. I know it.

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Ami Ann
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posted February 25, 2010 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, your Cancer placements love children, home and family.
Keep that good thought in your head((Belgz)))! x o x Ami

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Predominantlyfire
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posted February 25, 2010 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Predominantlyfire     Edit/Delete Message
I'd have impregnated Belgz by now if it were not for the fact that my gift to the planet is not to add to the number of poeple currently residing on it. It is with a heavy heart i stick to this no children policy as i would love to see the nice pigeon that would come out of Belg who would be the person i'd most like to bring the child up, possibly with me being present in the same Country.

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