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Topic: halp! SCORPIOS!
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woah city
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posted February 26, 2010 12:46 AM
 
so i'm skyping with my scorpio friend right now. we've been friends for a little over four years and sofar about twice a year he gets REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY mad at me and says really cruel stuff and won't talk to me for a long time. once he told me it's cuz he's in love with me and can't handle his feelings. another time he told me that i don't care about or listen to his feelings enough (totally not true! but he seems to be 100% ruled by his feelings in such a way that if you aren't honouring them as Reality in every single moment of your interaction -many of which seem to be paranoia more than anything- then you don't care about him). and NOW he's essentially called me evil and won't tell me why. this was last night. then a barrage of 'sorry' messages and that he doesn't want to lose my friendship. i feel like i am chocking on boiling hot water that is being forcefed to me. is this pretty typical scorpio behaviour? he's got like 7 planets in scorpio (my partner is one too but he is a very controlled even handed person.) i just need a little perspective right now because we are trying to 'work this out' and i'm feeling really viciously attacked and my aquariusness just wants to shut off. but he is a dear dear friend, so i'm aiming for objective if nothing else. IP: Logged |
Cheshire Kat
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posted February 26, 2010 12:53 AM
Can you post his chart?He's sounds like he's going through some emotional turmoil and taking it out on you.. I went through something similiar and I had to distant myself from the person, it was very toxic for the both of us. From time to time I talk to him but I still keep my distant and a tight-lid on my emotions. IP: Logged |
Diana
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posted February 26, 2010 01:03 AM
Why do aquarians persist on trying to make any kind of relationship work with a scorpio of the opposite sex? It almsot never turns out well.I would know. IP: Logged |
woah city
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posted February 26, 2010 01:10 AM
he's my friend, not my MAN.. but my man IS a scorpio and we get on fabulously and ALMOST completely understand eachother, most of the time  no, really. sure i can post his chart. time unknown, though. i'm just trying to rinse my brain and stay cool. my uranus is in scorp so i want to runnnnn.. eta: NOW he's opening up to me and pouring his heart out and trying to take responsibility for his own feelings. man though, he can be harsh! mostly we just joke around and have a lot of fun till i inadvertently hurt his feelings and he lashes out. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted February 26, 2010 01:13 AM
woah - I never chat to Scorpio men.It's huge rule for me. Even the ones I have been friends with. I just don't add them on msn. I had very bad experiences. Sometimes I avoid phone calls also. I try to keep *everything* in - person -..
For some reason I feel safer in person because there is less chance they will misinterpret something and turn it into something else entirely. IP: Logged |
Diana
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posted February 26, 2010 01:21 AM
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he's my friend, not my MAN.. but my man IS a scorpio and we get on fabulously and ALMOST completely understand eachother, most of the time no, really.
I said ANY kind of relationship.
It usually doesn't work out, and when it doesn't with these two, it turns very very ugly. Like nothing I've ever seen with any other pairing.
I've seen it work a few times, but it's a rare thing.
The moons would have to be really compatible to make it work. Mercury too. That's VERY important with this pairing. IP: Logged |
woah city
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posted February 26, 2010 01:22 AM
ahhh! might be a good rule to live by! he's an in-person friend usually, but he just moved away. even in person, though, he'll seem to misinterpret things to this insane degree and it makes me so sad cuz he really is important to me and it sucks that he gets SO.. down? paranoid? dark? i'm not sure what it is.. are you an aquarian, vapor? for some reason i thought you were capricorn. okay here's his chart. only 5 in scorpio. oops. my best guess is that he's pisces rising.  IP: Logged |
Cheshire Kat
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posted February 26, 2010 01:26 AM
I was wondering what kind of transits he's going through but that may not be the problem if he's been acting this way to you before, maybe it's something in the synastry or composite.IP: Logged |
woah city
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posted February 26, 2010 01:28 AM
diana, yeah you could be right. two of my best ever girl friends were scorpio, but they both also had taurus moons like me. love love love them deeply to this day. my guy's moon makes all kindsa trines and sextiles to my sun, AC, venus, neptune, and his AC/venus make a grand trine to my junk as well so i think that evens things out a lot.. holy crap though. he matters a lot to me and we have a ridiculous amount of fun till suddenly he unleashes all these feelings he harbours that i had no idea were brewing. i'm feeling a bit better now and he's being really candid, so we'll see. dang though i think i may be a lot more guarded in our friendship in the future.. IP: Logged |
woah city
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posted February 26, 2010 01:31 AM
cheshire, he admits he's going through a really hard lonely time right now.. but i do have my uranus right in the middle of that stellium and my moon opposes it exactly. sun squares his mercury tightly too. but my SN trines it by one degree and i do FEEL that emotional connection to him. IP: Logged |
Diana
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posted February 26, 2010 01:32 AM
What is your moon sign and mercury signs? I want to get an idea of what's going on with you two.
At the outset, I can see he has way too much scorpio for an aqua. Some of it must be squaring your sun. Even if it's not, it's too much scorp for an aqua.
Yeah, if your bf's moon is really good with your's, then it makes up for a lot.
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vapor-lash
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posted February 26, 2010 01:36 AM
Diana - you're nice.I would've said: HOLLYYYYYYY SHIAT!! It's the father of all Scorpios! Run for your life... jk jk  IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted February 26, 2010 01:43 AM
woah - I'm an Aries sun (11th house) - Venus is also in the 11th conjunct my NN. Cappy Moon and Mars. IP: Logged |
woah city
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posted February 26, 2010 01:43 AM
vapor, oh boy, huh? he's a darn sweet guy though and funny and dorky like me most of the time. which is why when this happens i'm like whaaaa?diana, my moon is 20 taurus and my mercury is 11 aquarius. one opposes his stellium, the other squares it! IP: Logged |
Diana
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posted February 26, 2010 01:45 AM
Oh. wow. Your moon is opposite that?! Holy cow. No wonder he feels you don't understand his feelings. Astrologically, he's right. There's such tension with that aspect.
Vapor,
Lol! I would run, but I wouldn't tell someone else to. I dealt with someone with almost the exact chart. I had no choice. It was a relative. Not an easy relationship. ETA: we even had the same moon and it was bad. ETA2: Pluto is about to go into his 11th. You may lose him soon. IP: Logged |
Cheshire Kat
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posted February 26, 2010 01:49 AM
Lol, I was really going to say something about the Scorpio Stellium and that 8th house stellium, it really does stand out.Plus if he's going through a rough transit..it's really going to ruffle up his emotional feathers especially if he does not have a handle on his emotions. He's going from snapping at you, then guilt and apologising for his behavior..that's not very good. We have all been there when we care for someone so much that we overlook the pain caused by that person.. ..But there's a comes a time when we have to be honest with ourselves and our dear friend and say, "I care about you as a friend but I can not take this anymore".. It's not abandoning your friendship, it's saving it cause your giving your a friend an wake up call to his actions.. IP: Logged |
woah city
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posted February 26, 2010 01:50 AM
right! i remember now. yeah you're totally aries/cap energy! clean, fast, fun and efficient! that's how i see ya  whereabouts in aries is your stuff? my sun moon mp is aries (2 deg) and i'm forevah trying to ariesify my darn self, to balance that pesky sun moon square of mine..IP: Logged |
woah city
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posted February 26, 2010 01:54 AM
diana and cheshire.. eeeeks! well he's now telling me he essentially feels jealous of my relationship with my guy who is one of his very best friends from way back into childhood. we've been together a little over a year and half a year before that this particular scorp told me he has deep feelings for me SO i think it is a combo of that plus being afraid to lose us and being jealous cuz we are happy (which he just told me).sigh. relationships are so complicated sometimes. i really love him so much and he feels like one of those friends i'll have forever. but yeah i can see how our stuff doesn't quite mesh. i just wish it didn't mesh a little more gracefully.. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted February 26, 2010 03:08 AM
Oh God!!!!!!!!ok Tell him this: "My darling extra Scorpionic – Hades-look-alike.. male friend – your feelings of pain and lack of romantic fulfillment are NOT related to me. You THINK they are related to me.. But you are.. .
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Wrong.
Your feelings are actually related to
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YOU!
And your own life.. If you had met a woman who you could love and who could love you back just as intensely (which by God is NOT me.. because I am not really all that intense) .. Then we would not be here having this conversation. So you need to focus on YOU.
You need to think about your own life, your own story.. and where that is heading to..
You can only draw in the sort of woman you want and desire when you feel fulfilled and content in your own skin. I can't fill that hole. We both know that.
PS. Please don't kill me.
PPS. Please don't kill my bf either. PPS. Please don't kill yourself. PPPS. Please don't burn my house down. Thank you for your time! IP: Logged |
Diana
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posted February 26, 2010 03:58 AM
Lol at the ending!
You reminded me of Anne Ortelee in this post. The wording, style, and general theme of your writing.
If you are her, get to work on the weekly weather. Don't be late. hehe IP: Logged |
woah city
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posted February 26, 2010 04:15 AM
holy f!ck that was funny, vapor! cuz it's so darn true. he hasn't mentioned feelings for me this time around but when he did a couple of summers ago he thought i should just KNOW (and was really freaking intense about it). the jealousy seems more centered on the fact that he is not especially close with anyone and, somehow, because two people that mean a lot to him have something he wishes he did. is how he explained it more or less.we actually just had an amazing talk and ended up getting really cheesy, thank god. he explained that essentially he feels i DO know his feelings at all times (that he doesn't express) and that he therefore thinks i'm intentionally ignoring them and even trying to hurt him by doing so, which in his mind justifies his lashing out. ultra-scorpio mindset indeed. but i'm so glad he explained. we worked out a plan to avoid that particular rut in future. so despite his being ultra plutonic, he is at least very introspective about it and felt relieved to be able to tell me all of that and to realize i'm not trying to mess with his head by not being completely in tune with his feelings at all times. whew! and baby, i may be an aquarius, but i do do intense. i just don't wear it on my sleeve. i have affinities to sun, mercury and mars in scorpio and my NN is in my 8th. my guy's mercury conjuncts my uranus in scorpio and all our communication has a heavily plutonic component. in all the right ways. ifyouknowmsayin.
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vapor-lash
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posted February 26, 2010 04:25 AM
lol Dianna! Thanks but no, I am not Anne Ortlee.. I don't usually read her btw but now you've peaked my curiosity so I looked up the "about me" section on her site. Whaddaya know?
We only have a couple of similarities in our charts! Both Capricorn Mars women.. Her Venus is Scorpio and my Venus is opposite Pluto. Otherwise she has some Virgo and some Libra happening which is the opposite of my Pisces and Aries stuff.. Oppositions can give an air of similarity sometimes (strangely! lol) Woah - Well I'm glad it all worked out.. and he isn't burning your house down hehe
You've been friends for ages now so.. as you said, he could well be a life-long friend.
I think some people just need more "management" than others.. Maybe that's a cold Cappy way to put it lol
But you know what I mean... I missed your last Q. My Sun is 12' Aries (sextile your Merc).. and my Moon is 19' Capricorn trine your Moon  IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted February 26, 2010 04:30 AM
oh woah - just wanted to add.. I didn't mean to say you're not intense. Your Sun's ruler is in Scorpio, so that itself could make you intense in love. I meant "not really *that* intense* as in.. "not as intense as he is*.. considering the huge Scorpio pile up IP: Logged |
woah city
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posted February 26, 2010 04:42 AM
yup, gotcha. i really am pretty good at presenting an aquarian aloofity to mask my inner vavoom, and i'm really glad to be with a scorpio who has mostly seemed to have mastery over his emotions.. he really *encourages* my unfolding in that department. and i dont' just mean sexually; it's really an emotional thing. yeah he probably won't burn down my house. but he did block me on facebook once becaue i was flossing rather than paying attention to him. but i love the big lug and we're all better now and hopefully this new stuff will stick. nice little sextile and trine we got there! and i do love me some fellow earth moon! my partner's moon is aries. fiest is the absolute best! and now i sleep. holy typos. sorry, too tired to edit. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash
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posted February 26, 2010 04:51 AM
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he probably won't burn down my house. but he did block me on facebook once becaue i was flossing rather than paying attention to him.
lol woah that's hilarious! Have a good night! IP: Logged |
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