posted February 28, 2010 09:41 PM         

I also don't resonate with a lot of astrological techniques that other astrologers have great success with. I think Sabian Symbols work the same way. I'm not going out of my way to work with them and see how they work but I can understand and accept that they resonate for other practitioners.

posted March 01, 2010 12:35 AM         

"Unfortunately there is still a part of my aura that is stuck in that attitude even though I've been an astrologer for for years."

posted March 01, 2010 02:26 AM         

I am able to fid out about past lifelines using Sabian Symbols.

I guess like Geocosmic's Tarot, every Astrology tool will work well for different Astrologers.

The weaver has no use for a Scimitar,
Nor does a blacksmith use a Scythe;
Sabian Symbols may work for a Raja or Czar,
But for the Sultan they may just be tripe.

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posted March 01, 2010 02:37 AM         

his book on Sabian Aspect Orbs is awesome.
It not only helped me understand sabian symbols,but it helped me understand harmonics too.

he correlates every aspect angular separation to a degree of the zodiac.

I will go over my Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis and the aspects to it

My Midheaven is in 11'14 Gemini
Sabian Symbol 12 Gemini The Negro Girl Fights For Independence In the City fits with my not only being part black, but also my theme of advocacy and equality

My Imum Coeli is in 11'14 Sagittarius
Sabian Symbol 12 Sagittarius
A Flag Turns Into an Eagle;the Eagle Into A Chanticleer Saluting The Dawn
'the spiritualization and promotion of great symbols of a New Age by minds sensitive to its precursory manifestations" and fits my New Age interests
my DNA is in 11'10 Sagittarius,and so same Sabian Symbol.
my nonprofit neurodiversity organization will be called Developmental Neurodiversity Association which will be made for people that fit The Indigo,Crystal personality type.

I have a conjunction of Africa in 11'15 Aries,Africano in 12'38 Aries,Chiron in 10'32 Aries,and Eris in 12'15 Aries (all retrograde) sextile/trine the Midheaven/Imum Coeli. I have Haumea in 11'17 Virgo square the Midheaven/Imum Coeli. I have Lunar Nodes in 10'30 Aquarius/Leo trine Midheaven/Imum Coeli. I have Heliocentric Neptune Nodes in 11'28 Leo/Aquarius sextile Midheaven/Imum Coeli. I have Geocentric South Uranus Node in 12'04 Sagittarius oppose/conjunct Midheaven/Imum Coeli. I have Uranus in 15'17 Libra trine Midheaven. I have DNA in 11'10 Sagittarius oppose/conjunct Midheaven/Imum Coeli

Note: both Haumea and Eris are fellow plutoids(transneptunian dwarf planets)of Pluto-Charon (binary system)and Makemake.

sabian symbols for the minor planets

Sabian Symbol for Africa
12 Aries
A Triangularly Shaped Flight of Wild Geese
'an idealistic reliance upon a mental image of universal order'

Sabian Symbol for Africano,Eris
13 Aries
An Unexploded Bomb Reveals An Unsuccessful Social Protest
'an immature evaluation of the possibility of transforming suddenly the status quo'

Sabian Symbol for Haumea
12 Virgo
After The Wedding,The Groom Snatches the Veil Away from His Bride
'the penetrating and unveiling power of the trained mind'

Sabian Symbol for North Lunar Node
11 Aquarius
During A Silent How,a Man Receives A New Inspiration Which May Change His Life
'the need to rely upon inner inspiration and guidance at the start of new developments

Sabian Symbol for South Lunar Node
11 Leo
Children Play On A Swing Hanging From The Branches of A Tree
'the power of tradition as it shelters the beginnings of individual self-expression'

Sabian Symbol for Heliocentric North Neptune Node
12 Leo
An Evening Party of Adults On A Lawn Illumined by Fancy Latterns
'group relaxation in fashionable surroundings as an escape from work routine'

Sabian Symbol for Heliocentric South Neptune Node
12 Aquarius
On A Vast Staircase Stand People Of Different Types,Graduated Upward
'the necessity of recognizing differences of types and levels of development wherever human beings live and work together'

Sabian Symbol for Geocentric South Uranus Node
13 Sagittarius
A Widow's Past Is Brought To Light
'the karma of past actions as it affects opportunities presented by a new cycle'

Sabian Symbol for Uranus in 15'17 Libra
After A Storm A Boat Landing Stands In Need of Reconstruction
'the need to keep in operation steady links between the vast Unconscious and the ego-consciousness'

I believe that sabian symbols work with midpoints

my Saturn/Neptune midpoint is 3'28 Virgo

4 Virgo
Black and White Children Play Together

my Moon in 3'11 Pisces opposes Saturn/Neptune midpoint

my Moon squares the opposition of retrograde Saturn in 5'08 Gemini and 1'48 Sagittarius

the Sabian Symbol fits with my black and white interracial parentage

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 01, 2010 04:00 AM         

Geocosmic,
I can try to list a non-linear interpretation of the Sabian of your Ascendant, Sun, Saturn and North Node.
Lets see if any of the possible interps can ring a Zen Temple's bell

posted March 01, 2010 08:20 AM         

it`s an interesting thought to look at the Sabians of midpoints. It never crossed my mind before!

The Sabian of my Sun/Moon-mp is on 21°31^Capricorn
By Accepting Defeat Gracefully, A General Reveals Nobility Of Character

(Maybe I am not meant to have a "soul-relationship" or find a balance within my own soul)

The Sabian of my Venus/Mars-mp is on 20°39 Sagittarius
A Child And A Dog Wearing Borrowed Eyeglasses

Hmm, I can`t really relate to that one. I `have no clue what that means.

posted March 01, 2010 10:56 AM         

i got curious now...is there any free e-book avaiable on the internet about the Dane Rudhyar´s interpretations of the SAbians?

i feel very very identified with my asc sabyan:

posted March 01, 2010 01:25 PM         

The Sabian of my Sun/Moon-mp is on 21°31^Capricorn
By Accepting Defeat Gracefully, A General Reveals Nobility Of Character

(Maybe I am not meant to have a "soul-relationship" or find a balance within my own soul)

The Sabian of my Venus/Mars-mp is on 20°39 Sagittarius
A Child And A Dog Wearing Borrowed Eyeglasses

Hmm, I can`t really relate to that one. I `have no clue what that means."

I think that the midpoint has to be aspect by

like in my case, my Saturn/Neptune midpoint is opposed by my Moon due to my Moon,Saturn,Neptune being in t-square.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 01, 2010 01:28 PM         

" A seer gazes intently into a crystal ball before him "

posted March 01, 2010 01:34 PM         

you are right. I thought about that after I had posted my reply.

My Sun-Moon-mp is opposing my Vertex and Eros, but no planet.
My Venus-Mars-mp is pretty alone.

posted March 01, 2010 02:04 PM         

i never looked at my Sun/Mid. Sabian:

"A VERY OLD MAN FACING A VAST DARK SPACE TO THE NORTHEAST.

KEYNOTE: Fulfillment in transcending and changeless wisdom."

Dane Rudhyar says about it:

" (...) The Wise Old Man faces the Changeless Reality, the true North —- which for us is located in a northeast direction. He faces the great Void, that apparent Darkness which is an intense Light invisible to our senses.

As this is a fourth stage symbol in the five-fold sequence, there is as usual a hint of technique. Implied is that by consistently and for a long time meditating on the changeless and spiritual reality at the very core of all experiences one can attain the supreme and age-old wisdom. We see in the symbol a way beyond appearances and toward PERMANENCE IN TRUTH."

posted March 01, 2010 02:29 PM         

that makes much sense. Thank you.

Following Raymond`s suggestion:

Sun and Mercury conjunct my Jupiter / Pluto on 26 Sagittarius
A Flag Bearer In A Battle

Sun squares Mars/Saturn on 26 Virgo
A Group Of Aristocratic Ladies Meet Ceremonially At A Court's Function

Moon squares Sun/PLuto on 17 Scorpio
A Path Through Woods Brilliant With Multicolored Splendor

Venus squares Sun / Saturn on 6 Libra
A Woman Feeding Chickens And Protecting Them From The Hawks

Venus conjunct Jupiter / Uranus on 6 Capricorn
A Veiled Prophet Speaks, Seized By The Power Of A God

Jupiter square Moon / MC on 11 Sag
A Flag Turns Into An Eagle; The Eagle Into A Chanticleer Saluting The Dawn

ASC conjunct Mars/Neptune on 7 Sag
And ASC conjunct Mars / NN on 7 Sag
Within The Depths Of The Earth New Elements Are Being Formed

(Interestingly I just came back from the doctor who diagnosed me with a serious iron deficiency - which Mars/Neptune is so symbolical for)

Some of the minor midpoints:

Mercury semisquare Neptune/PLuto
and Mercury semisquare Pluto / NN on 9 Scorpio
A Fellowship Supper Reunites Old Comrades

Venus semisquare Uranus / Neptune
and Venus semisquare Uranus / NN on 20 Scorpio
Obeying His Conscience, A Soldier Resists Orders

Jupiter semisquare Moon / Venus on 26 Cap
Pilgrims Climbing The Steep Steps Leading To A Mountain Shrine

Uranus semisquare Sun / ASC on 16 Sag
An Easter Sunrise Service Draws A Large Crowd

ASC semisquare Sun / Moon on 21 Cap
By Accepting Defeat Gracefully, A General Reveals Nobility Of Character