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belgz
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posted March 13, 2010 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
I was looking at my Solar arcs today and noticed something strange

My moon and north node are at the exact same degree but when I look at chart it says that..

SA Venus is 58 applying square to Moon

SA Venus is 28 applying square to North Node

AND

SA Jupiter is 27 applying square to my ASC
but it's 53 seperating from my MC..

How can that be when it hasn't even reached my MC when it is 2 degrees further apart?



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posted March 13, 2010 02:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
It's hard to answer this question without seeing the full chart - including the grid and planets listing because it shows the numbered measurements. Also, when you talk about exact degrees, your Moon and Node conjunction is not exact to the minute which is detail you're noticing. Even without seeing the planets listed with the degree numbers of the Solar Arcs, it seems to me that the grid might be correct.

But, I've seen Astro.com's numbers be slightly off many, many times. Don't get me wrong, they are accurate about 98% of the time, I use them more than my professional software because it's faster for me but you'd be surprised at how many times their charts miss sextiles and their orbs for measuring certain aspects are a bit ridiculous, but orbs are a matter of opinion as well.

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belgz
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posted March 13, 2010 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
I move the dates 1 year and at that time it looks like jupiter has gone retrograde. Its confusing me.


GV what do you think SA venus square moon and N.N could mean?

My life at present isn't that great and I just can't see this as a good aspect..

I know you said that square trigger things but I dont have a love life for it to ruin things even more.

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posted March 13, 2010 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Those measurements definitely mean an important relationship is coming in, or if you're an artist there will be some kind of creative project, pregnancy is possible during measurements like this, and possibly some kind of prominence.

IMPORTANT: These are not measurements to ignore. If you want something artistically creative to happen, if you want to get married or have kids, BE OUT IN THE WORLD, this is not a time to isolate.

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belgz
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posted March 13, 2010 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
It's funny you say that. I have written childrens books about a character "Miranda" and its a series of 9 at the moment and i'm going on Wednesday to a seminar and going to discuss how I am going to publish my books around the world.

I am very excited about it..

Other than that I have been busy organising my books, starting a cleaning business and trying to find a full time job. On top of everything I am thinking of studying Yoga so i can give classes at my local gym.

I am definitely not going to be sitting around anytime soon. I think a boyfriend might distract me.

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posted March 13, 2010 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Well...this might be the correct distraction you've been looking for, so don't push God's gift away.

As a matter of fact, I can't wait until the moment you start posting that you met someone extremely special.

It's gonna happen really soon, too. HA HA HA!!

It's gonna happen, so stop talking about distractions and let the Universe give you something special. [I'm wagging my finger at you, young lady.] LOOOL!!

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belgz
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posted March 13, 2010 02:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
HAHAHAHAA! I love how those kinda things happen when you don't want it..

3 months ago I was hoping someone would come save me from my misery but I am sick of cooperating with men. :P LOL

I want to move back out again and live with my beautiful cat in peace away from everyone. I want to sit in a quite room and concentrate on myself right now. I wish saturn stayed in my 12th..

I feel exposed.. and naked hehehehe

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posted March 13, 2010 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Wow , this is the first time I have ever heard of someone actually liking Saturn in their 12th!

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posted March 13, 2010 03:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, me too. Wishing for Saturn in the 12th. I suspect that you feel good stuff coming into your life. REALLY GOOD STUFF and it's the fear of wonderful things coming in. Am I right? Do you think you're feeling these wonderful things coming through and you're in fear about it? I guess I've felt that as well in my life, but that's what life is about, the ups and downs. The best we can do is enjoy the ups because the downs are always guaranteed. We've all had enough of the downs, I'm gonna bless the good times that are coming your way.

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posted March 13, 2010 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
MVM


It was the best 2 years for me.

I used to be someone afraid of the dark and afraid of being lonely until I went overseas and lived in the mountains in a village with nothing but nature.

I woke up to an amazing view of a waterfall and i was so high that I could touch the clouds. I was all alone there and enjoyed being with all the animals and going out to my grandmothers back yard and picking vegetables from the backyard so I can cook dinner. We had bee hives and i ate yummy fresh honey and even though i was all alone i was in a different world.

The first 7 months went like that then i came back to Sydney and moved out and I lived by myself.. just me and my cat and it was great being with her and noone else around to ruin my peace and quite. As saturn went through my 12th my panic attacks went away and so did my depression. It entered my 1st house and i put on 8 kilos.

Heres where i stayed in 2007... The view of the front of the house.


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posted March 13, 2010 03:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
oh mah GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHD. That is soooo beautiful, Belgz! WOW


Your sentiments remind me of when I was having my Saturn Return, Belgz and Geo. I spent all this time worrying about it. When it came around I was at my family's place in nature, 5 acres of land. Watching the sunrise. Playing with my parents' 12 cats .... feeding the fish in the pond, as well as the turtles, and watching the new baby alligator that had moved to the pond.
I was editing my first book, and so...happy to enjoy my OWN company. It was the 1st time ever. I loved it. A whole year of this.
I was so pi$$ed when that year was over ...Saturn starting separating from my natal Saturn and I had to move around that time. Drama began again. People became involved. My time alone was no longer my time alone. Sigh.

It was going through my 3rd house, btw.

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posted March 13, 2010 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Saturn rules mountains, very interesting. That energy translated as a healing isolation in the mountains. That's fabulous.

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posted March 13, 2010 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Geo, alas, there are no mountains in Florida
But you know what, I remember thinking over and over again during the beginning of my Saturn Return, this would be perfect if there were MOUNTAINS here, dammit

Funny, that.
I remember RIGHT before my Saturn Return being in CA and doing a lot of hikes in the mountains, and craving that when I went to Florida.

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belgz
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posted March 13, 2010 03:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
When I went to Turkey my aunty made me go there by bus and i was petrified of staying somehwhere where there was no doctors near by or no normal civilisation. As i was driving up there in a bus something came over me I was transforming instantly and feeling this sense of excitement. I knew I was going somewhere good. I had a great feeling almost euphoric.

At first I refused to walk up the mountain thinking I would fall and break an arm and leg but it took me 1 week and I was in love with the world. My aunty taught me how to milk a cow and I climbed mountains for 12 - 13 hours at a time.. and the whole time I wrote in my diary everything I experienced there.

Saturn worked instantly for me.. I was meant to go be with a guy I fell in love with but instead I didnt want to leave this village. I hated the city for a while and was always wanting to get away from it all.


and thankyou GV I hope you are happy and enjoying love and happiness.. Could it be possible it just means me publishing my books and not love? Or could it mean both?

I don't feel like I am meant to enjoy a relationship anymore, I just don't get along with men or anyone from my family. I have realised that its a big scary step and I am learning to be happy and content living with just me.

I get hurt and offended and Im sick of it, I'm sick of playing hard to get and going through the whole get to know someone process. I hate TIME! I hate waiting to trust them, I hate being dissapointed. Its just too much of a hassle. I want to be famous and rich now. Personal relationships are no longer fulfilling.

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posted March 13, 2010 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
MVM

I hope my saturn returns goes as good as yours. Saturn doesn't seem to bother me as long as it doesn't play in the skies with my natal moon

I have saturn in first.

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posted March 13, 2010 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic* Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Boy oh boy, do I hear the fear of relationships in you. Well, like they say, it's your choice and if you want to channel the energy into creativity instead of relationship, it's really up to you. But a great fact of life is that we are not meant to live alone. We are meant to interact with community, society and have push and pull with someone. But you create your own reality and if you don't want a relationship, don't have one. I don't know about the publishing, but SA Venus=Node can translate as some type of art or creativity going public. Venus rules your 11th House of "love received" or "income from the career". Venus also rules your 8th House of sexuality...

If I had to place a bet on those measurements and the fact that your Venus rules the 8th and 11th...sorry, I've got to put my money down on a man coming through.

Hey, MVM, you wanna put up 5 Benjamins against my 5 Benjamins that a man is coming into her life?

Sorry, Belgz, I can't have a pity party with you about not wanting a relationship coming into your life. You'd have to be a real man hater for these measurements not to pan out as something wonderful and fun coming down the bend. Maybe you can go lesbian or something. That could figure into this. You never know, that's an awful lot of feminine energy coming along.

Maybe you'll just have a baby and throw the man out with the bath water. The good thing about life is that you've got choices...wonderful choices.

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posted March 13, 2010 04:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
I would enjoy the baby part :P Maybe I will just give him the boot whoever he is after I'm pregnant :P

If the aspects work exact I would give birth in March. That would mean I will fall pregnant June or July. Thats 4 months away..

My dad has SA venus opposing natal moon when I was born (3 degrees applying).

Well if it happens pregnancy or a superman Im going to let you know first

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posted March 13, 2010 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for belgz     Edit/Delete Message
That month I thought I'd have a look at my lunar return chart...

HAHAHA now your really going to find this funny.

Lunar return ascendant ruler JUPITER is in 5th. Along with uranus

Venus is exactly conjunct my natal venus.. and focus on 5th house shows with aries intercepted in there I guess.


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posted March 13, 2010 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for changchiu     Edit/Delete Message
Belgz;
What a wonderfull picture..what a wonderfull world
Where is that place in Turkey?

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posted March 13, 2010 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
yeah hun, you don't look Turkish lol.

I swear i could run away to India and just hang out in a temple high up in the Himalayas in a toga for a good 6 months. Maybe reach enlightenment and just go so deep into myself i never wanna come out.

Ultimate dream. Or maybe Saturn or Jupiter transiting my 12th house.

That picture reminded me of that particular little fantasy, I can just imagine what a cathartic experience it would have been for you

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posted March 13, 2010 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Belgz, I'm part Turkish too!

BTW, Turkish tend to have a fair complexion. She does look like it to me! Same coloring, a bit of the same features as the women on my father's side of the family (all stunning of course )

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posted March 13, 2010 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for changchiu     Edit/Delete Message
I am complete Turkish
MVM;
Which part of you,mother or father?

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posted March 13, 2010 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting..I baaadly wanna go to Turkey even though I'm greek..i was born miles away so it honestly doesn't affect me and definitely not in my city.

Can you believe Greeks and Turks live side by side as neighbours over here and say hello to each as they pass by??

That's what i LOVE about where i live

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posted March 13, 2010 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for changchiu     Edit/Delete Message
Diablo;
Turkish people and Greeks are look like so much..Our foods,behaviours,musics also..
And for my city,most of the Greeks love so much,Ýzmir..

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posted March 13, 2010 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message
Oh yeah! Baclava, our coffee, even our language! Originally the Greek alphabet didn't have a letter to represent the "J" sound or the "D" sound.

For instance, the word for cupboard is "Du-la-pi" which is a Turkish word. Or for window, its "Ja-mi". When i was little i used to call my dad "Ba-ba". My Australian girlfriend had a 2yr lil boy she had with his Turkish dad and hearing him say Bubba! makes me smile.

My family is actually from next door to Macedonia and Bulgaria, but my mother's father's family were originally from Thraki where the arm meets Turkey and West meets East.

That makes me happy to hear that we dont fight over in Europe anymore

PS. Sorry Belgz for hijacking your thread. I promise to quit it now, lol. It was your gorgeous photo's fault hahaha

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