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Sanchenuss
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posted March 19, 2010 10:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
Am I allowed to take part in peoples affairs or can I only make suggestions? I noticed for the first time yesterday that situations "come" to me.

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Ami Ann
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posted March 19, 2010 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Can you elaborate more, Sanchuness.Can you give the details of the situation(s)?

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Sanchenuss
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posted March 19, 2010 10:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
Everywhere I went yesterday, I found that people would come up to me and have arguments around me. Am I supposed to be helping these people resolve their issues, can I get involved in their lives?
It also seems that I could get people to do what I would want them to do, am I allowed to do that? For example, there were three girls just sitting outside of the car that me and my nephew arrived from. They were outside arguing about this guy cheating on them and they called us over to them. These girls would have come back to our place if I wanted them to and that would have gotten the situation away from the guy that they were harrassing but then the girls would be involved with us.

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Ami Ann
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posted March 19, 2010 11:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
That is a good question. I know what you are talking about.
There is a still small voice inside. We have to figure out what it is saying .
For me, as a Christian, I put everything next to the Bible and try to follow the Bible first and my voice second.
So, I have an external set of rules.
I screw up all the time, to be real about it,though.
LOL

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted March 19, 2010 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
what do you mean are you allowed?
you are allowed to do anything you want to, it is your life.

ask yourself, can i do this and still like and respect myself tomorrow, then you don't have to ask anyone one else right from wrong.

your decisions are just that, your decisions, so yes indeed, you can take advantage of any situation you want to. you have to live with your choices. we don't.

am i allowed to personally advance myself at the expense of others? of course. but you have to live with your choices. no one really cares if you screw everyone in hell and half of georgia. they don't. you look yourself in the mirror every morning, so you figure out right from wrong for yourself.

the last thing i need is to be drawn into someone elses drama. usually outside imput is not appreciated anyway. true.

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Ami Ann
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posted March 19, 2010 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted March 19, 2010 03:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
maybe i really don't get the question.

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vapor-lash
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posted March 19, 2010 03:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Re the situation you described -- You're not Jerry Springer. People can take care of themselves.

If there is a double agenda question like - "can I gang bang 3 women with my nephew?" then I agree with cpn.

Re your initial question - it depends a lot on the situation. Sometimes it's best to help when you are asked only. People don't always welcome intrusion into their lives. Alternatively you can ask the person if they need your help.. or let them know you are *there* in case they need help.

If this is a pattern in your life and you really want to help people resolve disputes, on a daily basis.. why not do it as a counselor?

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Sanchenuss
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posted March 19, 2010 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think you understand. People seem to be willing to do anything that I want. Will I be karmically involved if I form relationships with them or is my purpose strictly to direct people in the right direction? There is something that literally draws people to me. There were three instances yesterday where people would just be in my path and start acting out strange dramas in front of me. Two instances, peoples dogs literally dragged their owners to me. It is like they were waiting for me to get involved. At one point yesterday, I pulled off the side of the road and a woman came and knocked on my window and asked me If I needed me to meet her in the back. Do I ignore her or go see what she wants and get involved? Also, yes, If I decided to have sex with all of those girls, would that be going against my purpose and cause me to become karmically involved with them?

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted March 19, 2010 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
so, do you think you are different than other people and differnt rules apply to you than other people? just curious. (and i am not asking this to sound mean, i really want to know)

i mean, i know in my heart, i am called to be a giver. so i give. i know in my heart, i was not called to have an easy life as some, and i accept my part in that...and work hard and know that i have to do things the right way, even if joe shcmo does it wrong and comes out ahead in the short run...that doesnt matter to me.... i can't take short cuts and expect good results..... i know this for me. if you feel you are called to interact, then by all means interact as positivly as you can.
if you feel you have a purpose in being drawn into random peoples lives, then damn tootie you have a duty to conduct yourself with the highest of morals. that is IF you feel you have a reason to being drawn into peoples lives. do you think god or the universe would want you in certain peoples lives and situations to bring them harm or be used to your own selfish ends? come on, common sense tells you that is not the case. if you have a higher calling, you must, must take the responsibility that goes with it.

you already know this.

so once again, you have to look in the mirror at the end of the day. you know what to do. what seems the easy way, is not always the best way.

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Ami Ann
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posted March 19, 2010 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message

I think you are very cool for having the courage to ask these questions!
I think we bring back on ourselves what we do to others.

x o x o Ami

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted March 19, 2010 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i do know what you mean
trust me i do.

there are many times i see a shortcut to something i may want...but i know i have to do good and right. why? i don't know why, but i know it to be true.

your ex gf for instance, you said she would do anything you asked her to do, online. so if you said cut your arm, she would cut her arm. or is you said insert fruit into your...mouth...she would do that...i think when you have power over certain people like that it must be used wisely.

trust me, i could have decided to be a man user and travelled the world with the best of everything. but ultimately i know i have paid dearly any time i have hurt a person, so i try real hard not to hurt or use people. its just doing the right thing.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted March 19, 2010 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
so what you are asking is if some sex freak throws her stuff in your face and says choke me hit me use me...can you do it without resprecussions? and if so, can you do it on a regular basis randomly..

i don't really know.

some things are not really as they appear. inside that might be a hurt kitten type person that only knows love from hurt, becasue that is all she has been shown... and how would your spiritual side knowingly not help her heal versus hurting the kitten in her that is already hurt. we do have a responsibility to others, but it is an intersting question..now that i am fully grasping it.

but like i said, there are men who would have given me anything i desired. anything. and i knew it would be easy to use them and ealisy maipulate situations for my own selfish desires. i can't deny in my youth thinking how easy it was actually...but somewhere i grew up and realized i couldnt really do that and call myself an honest person. ya know.? in fact, i have turned down some very nice things knowing the internal price was higher than i wanted to pay.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted March 19, 2010 04:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message

S, are you just playing devil's advocate or what.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted March 19, 2010 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
mvm- sounds like women throw themselves at his feet huh?

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vapor-lash
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posted March 19, 2010 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
Ok - Personally I think it "seems" this way to you.

Dogs run towards other people also..

Maybe the lack of earth in your chart - shows a predisposition to interpret mundane daily things as "odd" - or for you to be under the impression these things are only happening to you.

In my opinion, people only do what they already wanted to do. Even hypnosis only works if the person hypnotized allows it.

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There were three instances yesterday where people would just be in my path and start acting out strange dramas in front of me.

Well this happens like 20 times per day.. in my day. I see people arguing on the train for example or in train stations (often).

There was a guy on the train just the other day walking around and screaming at random people.

I still think it may have something to do with the fact that you are not living in a large city. You would be very desensitized to things like this, if you were.

Just my opinion.

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I pulled off the side of the road and a woman came and knocked on my window and asked me If I needed me to meet her in the back.

S - If I had sex with every guy who has ever bumped into me, honked his horn at me, asked me out, tried to touch me etc.. I mean... no one does that.
I don't *at all* see that as you neglecting your fate - for not going *there*.

If absolutely everything was fate and you'd have to try out every single option you are given in life - it would drive you insane.. It isn't even humanly possible.

What if my roommate came into my room now and asked me f I wanted a coffee?

Would that mean I was *meant* to have this particular coffee..??

Maybe I don't *feel* like coffee at all.. so maybe I will say "NO, Thanks".

And yes there is always a possibility that THIS particular time - was significant to my fate. There is a possibility I will choke on something and be dead within seconds.. and maybe that coffee (or a drink of water instead.. or anything) could've saved my life..

But there is NO way to KNOW that.

You have to make choices. We make choices daily.

Being offered a choice.. is NOT - equivalent to being told: "you must do this".

Anyway - just my two cents...

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Ami Ann
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posted March 19, 2010 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Forgive me, Guys,but Vapor--you crack me up!
LOL


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MyVirgoMask
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posted March 19, 2010 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
LOL...Yeah, Vapor, you crack me up too

You also make very good points:

"Maybe the lack of earth in your chart - shows a predisposition to interpret mundane daily things as "odd" - or for you to be under the impression these things are only happening to you."

AND:

"I still think it may have something to do with the fact that you are not living in a large city. You would be very desensitized to things like this, if you were."

Seriously, yeah...I mean, living in San Francisco, I have had bums try to lick my hand on the subway. Should I even try to interpret this? I also see multitudes of 70 year-old drag queens who, for all their queening, never learned how to apply makeup. Am I maybe destined to enroll in cosmetics college so that I can do their makeup properly? Somehow I don't think they'd appreciate my 'help'

You can look at everything as weird and destined, but you can also just kind of flow with it and take it in. No need to interpret. Why interpret? Is spirituality a new thing in your life also, S? Because I think that often when we are new to subjects like astrology or spirituality, we think EVERYTHING HAS TO BE IMPORTANT AND IT'S ALL PREDESTINED. When it's usually just...ya know... Life.

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Sanchenuss
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posted March 19, 2010 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
Oh. I must have the wrong perception about this then. Just coincidences. Nevermind. Im getting delusional.

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Ami Ann
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posted March 20, 2010 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Keep Writing. You need us. LOL


x o x o x Ami

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Ami Ann
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posted March 21, 2010 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
How are things with you, Sanchuness?

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Sanchenuss
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posted March 21, 2010 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sanchenuss     Edit/Delete Message
Just woke up.

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