posted March 21, 2010 12:46 AM         

I have Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Scorpio with Moon in Pisces, and so I am strong in tropical watersign placements.

I do cry. I tend to cry very easily since I could ever remember. I got called "crybaby" a lot when I was a kid.
As I got older, it was more about expressing anger than showing tears when I got hurt, being a hothead,cussing people out,and fighting.
I would cry at home when I was with my parents no matter how old I was.

I will also tend to cry when I am alone.

I always had problems regulating my emotions, being too emotional. I was always very susceptible to emotional meltdowns. I think that's connected to my being a neurodivergent and having what people in the special education field call "sensory integration issues".

I take Omega 3 acid supplements and multivitamins (that include strong Vitamin B complex) regularly,and so they make me less sensitive,less emotional.

Like I said before, it depends on the person. It doesn't matter if a person is a Scorpio,Pisces,Cancer, nor anything else.

Sometimes, I feel Astrology can be a bad thing because many people will judge people based on their sunsigns and even other parts of the chart and expect them to be the way because the Astrology books say so. That's why I have problems reading any Astrology books that discuss certain zodiac sign traits including especially the sunsign books. I can't help be skeptical at times.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 21, 2010 12:53 AM         

A Scorpio man is likely to cry with a Cancer or Pisces moon. These people are very vulnerable and don't understand the cold-hearted people that this world harbors.

A Scopio is mysterious, but what is predictable about the mystery...whatever they don't talk or neglect is what they are afraid of. Meaning, if you talk constantly with a Scorpio and he enjoys talking to you, but never asks you on a date...he is probably terrified of rejection.(in most cases) Or he could just see you as a friend and is secretly terrified of offending you...thus...the mystery. lol

posted March 21, 2010 01:09 AM         

That was exactly what I was thinking.

I feel like one of those skeptics in regards to James Randi astrological generalization stuff that he gives to all students in a psychological class who strongly relate to it as their personal astrological writeup before finding out that everybody is reading the same astrological profile writeup.

I had argument with a person in a metaphysical chatroom. He was skeptical of Astrology. He said that stuff is so general that it can apply to anybody. He was really vehement on his attack on Astrology and people that use it.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 21, 2010 01:29 AM         

I didn't say they did. Scorpios just take more precautions than the other signs in my option to avoid the intense feelings of humiliation they will suffer from if they allow someone to get that close to them.

Sign descriptions work well enough... You can become skeptical of any form of astrology. One of my friends next door, his brother was born the same day and year as me. Different ascendant... He can't stand his brother(they have nothing in common according to him) but he comes over here every night to talk with me. Explain that, even if you take signs out of the equation we have a nearly identical chart, yet he likes me yet hates him.

Astrology only gives us clues in ways which ways energy is likely to manifest, not how it WILL manifest. Besides, we are a combination of all signs. That's why everyone's natal chart includes all 12 signs of the zodiac. Someone with Aries placements is more likely to be direct, active, impulsive, and have a "zest" for life. Does that mean all Aries are this way? Nope. But that's what they're chart is encouraging their personality traits to manifest. But I'm sure there are lots of very introverted, calculating, and diplomatic Aries out there.

What about Libras? They supposedly hate conflict, but I bet if you took a poll you'd find many Libras in the military. Does that mean astrology doesn't work? No, it just means they took their Liberian energy in their chart that God blessed them with their free will, and chose to apply it in a different manner than your stereotypical Librian personality in these Zodiac descriptions we are familiar with.

posted March 21, 2010 01:35 AM         

Zanark, I'm just not a fan of generalized sun sign astrology. Never have been, never will be. Period
There are many people who do not 'act like their signs'.

Sign descriptions do not work well enough to me because they are too general and people tend to perpetuate projection.
You can have a Scorpio without much other Scorpio OR pluto influence in their chart and the 'signs won't work well enough'.

Just my opinion.
I knew a Libra who was loaded with Pluto and Scorpio in his chart. He is neither aggressive nor 'all about peace' or giving, or even about fairness or justice actually lol. He's nothing Libra-like at all.

posted March 21, 2010 02:01 AM         

But, unless it's at a funeral, they probably won't cry around you unless they trust you, and have let you in.

I have been swimming in the Scorpio ocean since birth.
I am so-so on the sign generalization thing, BUT, I think, and this is just an opinion, that Scorpio is such a strong sun in terms of characteristics, that they do act somewhat similiar to one another.

posted March 21, 2010 02:08 AM         

I am in complete agreement that generalized sun signs aren't enough, I've actually been supportive of that idea in all my posts so far in this thread. I just think sun signs shouldn't be discredited because they do work the majority of the time to help you understand someone. If I could only know one thing about a person's chart, it would be the sun sign. And without the sun, everything would cease to exist.

posted March 21, 2010 02:58 AM         

Well...I am sure that a lot of people in this forum are passionate about Astrology and even more passionate. I am very passionate about Astrology in general.

I am very passionate about neurodivergence, well...it's no different from a homosexual person/homosexual rights advocate being very passionate about homosexual rights, a woman/woman rights advocate being very passionate about women's rights,and a black person/civil rights advocate being very passionate about civil rights.

Advocates can be strong of any zodiac sign.

Many advocates of certain things can personally relate. It is personal experience with things and wanting to keep others from experience the negative things that they went through that motivate them to be advocates. They advocate for acceptance,tolerance of what is different from societal norm and strive for equal treatment which may seem controversial,discordant to people who uphold the status quo and want things to be the same.

Heck...I am starting to feel that I should be a Multiracial Advocate - one who believes in and promotes Multiethnic identity and rejects the "one drop rule". It's Multiracial people/multiracial advocates that pushed for multiple choices for race on forms. Many of us tired of being forced to pick a box and even marking down "other".

I get very passionate about identifying as multiracial because of my experiences of growing up with those experiences of people trying to fit me in a black box that I refuse to mark down, preferring to mark down multiple boxes instead to acknowledge all my heritages.

As a child, I was very passionate/obsessed about Mythology,Arthurian Legends,Knights,Swords,Fairy Tales,England,swimming in the pool,Science, and Spider-Man. I had my odd,unusual ways in regards to those things.
People that understand special education stuff and neurodivergent might say that obsessive trait that I have is part of my Dyspraxia which is similar to Aspergers. Aspergers and Dyspraxia overlap in traits. The co-morbidity between them is high.

From What is Dyspraxia?
"Peer relationships are frequently stunted because of obsessive or paranoid behaviors." http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-dyspraxia.htm

To further my point:

the following is from the page Emotional Difficulties of
People with Learning Disabilities from LD Pride site

Emotional Sensitivity

"Many adults with learning disabilities see themselves as more emotionally sensitive than other people In its most extreme form, high levels of emotional sensitivity are both a blessing and a weakness. The positive features of this trait helps adults with learning disabilities build meaningful relationships with others. For example, they are often very intuitive and in-tune with both their own and other people's emotions. Sometimes they are actually able to perceive other's thoughts and feelings. However, this strength also serves as weakness due to its propensity to overwhelm the individuals. Emotional difficulties occur when they are unable to cope with the onslaught of emotions they are feeling. Highly sensitive adults with LD may be moved to tears more easily or feel their own and other people’s pain more deeply. For example, Thomas West, writer of "The Minds Eye", not only gives a thorough explanation of Winston Churchill's learning disability, but also describes his sensitive nature. West details Churchill's tendency to break into tears quite easily" (West, 1997) even out in the public eye. He notes one incident in which Churchill was moved to tears after witnessing the devastating effects of a bomb"

"This description of Churchill also serves to highlight the strong sense of justice that many adults with learning disabilities possess. Unfortunately, this sense of justice often serves as a double edged sword. On one hand, it is refreshing to behold the passion of many of these individuals in their fight to overcome injustice. While on the other hand, this very passion, when it crosses the line into aggression, can cause social rejection and/or emotional overload. Often the individual may be unaware that their behavior has turned aggressive. They only wish make their point known and have others understand it. This type of over reaction is not a purposeful attempt to hurt anybody. It is more likely to be caused by a difficulty with monitoring their emotions and consequent behavior."
http://ldpride.net/emotions.htm

That is definitely me. I can admit my fault of being too passionate about something that I believe in to the point that it can lead to emotional overload,social rejection and appear aggressive to a neurotypical.
cial rejection and/or emotional overload. I do tend to get over passionate when I am trying to make my points known and have others understand it. I even easily get stressed if it's not understood or misunderstood,and so I get more passionate,emotional in making my point which can end up turning into a big argument if I don't stop. I notice that in both my speaking to a person and my typing online. My retorts,rebuttals can come off as being angry even though that's not my intention to be. It's just that I am being passionate in expressing my points.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted March 21, 2010 03:11 AM         

very stubborn and strong in his beliefs and convictions.

fit perfectly the sun sign description.

posted March 21, 2010 03:38 AM         

As a person that is part black and Hispanic, growing up around Blacks and Hispanic, I grew up expressing myself in a passionate way.

It is said that many Blacks are passionate,emotional when expressing themselves. It is said the same about Hispanics too. That "Latin Fire"

It is very important for Blacks to not be so passionate,emotional when expressing themselves with whites because they might get misunderstood as being angr,hostile,dangerous.

There has always been an issue with the "Angry Black" stereotype.

This got many blacks to be misdiagnosed,overdiagnosed as schizophrenic.
It was connected to their being viewed as violent, hostile, angry and aggressive. http://psychcentral.com/news/2010/01/07/black-men-more-likely-to-be-diagnosed-with-schizophrenia/10602.html

I try to avoid that before with psychiatrists, and I controlled my emotions so much,not showing any emotion out of fear of expressing too much emotion that I got noted as having the flat effect which is a symptom of psychosis.

This talks about Black Cool and Black Anger.
It was very important for Obama to display coolness to avoid being pinned down as an angry black man by a lot of whites. It was his former Reverend Wright that was the main threat to his presidential campaign because of the passion that he showed in his preaching. My exgf who was white,had a bad view of Reverend Wright and that it made Obama look like he had a chip on his shoulder. She told me that he can't run the country because he's too biased. That made me feel like I didn't even know her even though we were both liberals. I felt like we were into two different worlds. I agreed with what Reverend Wright said about the history of racism in USA and that there is still racism in USA. If a person with Black ancestry talks about those issues,then they are accused of being angry,Anti-American, and even racist. That's always been an issue here in USA. I admit there are a lot blacks that are racist just like there are many people of all races that are racist. Racists cross all racial lines just like Interracial harmony believers cross all racial lines. http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/opinon/2010/03/198_34091.html

I don't think certain things can be chalked up to Astrology.

There are so many factors.

heck...most women would be so passionate about protecting their children like a lioness protecting her cubs without having any Scorpio planets,Pluto aspects,nor Mars aspects. It's that natural instinct to protect their children.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"