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posted March 27, 2010 10:13 PM            

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Anyone here have this placement natally? Or maybe progressed?

Well how do you think these weaker members of society should be treated? Should they be belittled and bothered or accepted with love and compassion? I know it's easy to spit on someone weaker than you, that makes one feel strong. It is right though?

I believe if you hate someone, there's something wrong with, not them, but you.

Everyone should be treated equally as a rule, and those poor little humans who need extra help, should get that from their human family.

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posted March 27, 2010 10:46 PM            

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what are you talking about?

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posted March 27, 2010 10:51 PM            

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I understand what you are saying here ohmybaby..

I agree. But I don't think this is confined to Saturn-MC squares.

About "hate" - there is something wrong with everyone. If someone had poisoned your pet in revenge, then you'd have reasons to hate them. Clearly there would be something wrong with them.. but your inability to forgive would also point to something being "wrong" with you.

Noone is a saint so..
It is what it is.

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posted March 27, 2010 10:55 PM            

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I'm saying not to use astrology as a means to promote hate! We're supposed to be enlightened, to know more than "ordinary" people, and make people happier with this special knowledge! Not make it even worse for the ones who suffer

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posted March 27, 2010 10:59 PM            

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I'm saying not to use astrology as a means to promote hate!

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I think astrology, used wisely, should promote *understanding* first and foremost.

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posted March 27, 2010 11:04 PM            

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Understanding of what? It only tells you how, it doesnt say why

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posted March 27, 2010 11:06 PM            

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Understanding of each other - and co-existence.

LG was saying in one of her books.. I have no clue which one - It may have been Sun Signs.. That sometimes things are easier to deal with when you know the *why* of them.

I agree with that ^

I understand certain people in my life on a deeper level - due to my astrology knowledge, and this makes it easier for us to get along.

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posted March 27, 2010 11:09 PM            

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a means to promote hate

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hatred of what? If it only tells you 'how' and doesn't tell you 'why' - how could it promote hatred of anything?

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posted March 27, 2010 11:13 PM            

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I guess of people who have this aspect which can express itself in many ways, it doesn't always mean you're evil and that's my point here

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posted March 27, 2010 11:19 PM            

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Everything amuses

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posted March 27, 2010 11:21 PM            

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I mean I do think there are evil people out there but I think they are the tiny minority, many more are depressed, and that's why we shouldn't automatically call someone a loser (meaning evil) who has this aspect! 50% of America is depressed or so, I don't think they deserve to be, and I think these sad people should be uplifted with optimism rather than abused, that's the point I'm making, not to take one aspect and base the person's entire existence on it

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posted March 27, 2010 11:32 PM            

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no one is abusing anyone around here in LL mayne. We are Acceptance.

Sometimes I feel like starting a female cult where everyone is accepted.

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posted March 27, 2010 11:48 PM            

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Hey, I'm one of 'those poor little humans'.

I'd like to ask what makes you such a big person?
An insulting and contradicting post?

Keep your fake pity.

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posted March 27, 2010 11:50 PM            

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Ohhhhhhh this aspect. Well I am an owner of this puppy for sure. Saturn in Taurus in the 12th square to my Aquarian MC and North Node.

The people in my childhood were not a friendly bunch at all and I have had a hard time opening up with people. I grew up thinking that there was something wrong with me. I became the most hated black sheep in the family. I think it is over because I am senstive and back then the world thought if a person was the type easy to cry etc then you get labelled a basketcase and told to grow a thick skin.

One of the lessons is to reach out to the world and open up - to establish bonds instead of being a hermit.

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posted March 28, 2010 01:17 AM            

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Alright well I'm glad I'm getting my message of positive hope through to you all.

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posted March 28, 2010 02:28 AM            

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There is nothing in a natal chart that can point to the native being evil. Nothing about astrology is written in stone. Western astrology is pretty fluid.

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posted March 28, 2010 02:34 AM            

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amowls,

I agree

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posted March 30, 2010 12:36 AM            

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Saturn SQUARE IC.......I wonder what that means and how that would look like.......Cold family environment?

Would it show the family scapegoat/black sheep?

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posted May 10, 2015 06:10 PM            

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Transit Saturn is square my MC and It sucks. It's simultaneously squaring my 11th house ruler so dealing with people has been frustrating(understatement).

If you have this natally, its more about relaying on yourself.

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posted May 10, 2015 06:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Cynnared:
Saturn SQUARE IC.......I wonder what that means and how that would look like.......Cold family environment?

Would it show the family scapegoat/black sheep?

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Where ever your Saturn is, It shows your insecurities; so If you have it in your AC you may be self conscious about your appearance(Saturn conjunct Asc) or DC about how you love somebody else(Saturn square Venus).

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