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posted March 29, 2010 08:46 PM         

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Ok, I trust a lot of you guys on this site to tell me how it is...need honesty!!

I know that I am a controlling person...I like to plan and be in control of things. I always felt that it stemmed back to watching my dad cheat on my mom and her just sitting there taking it and turning her head. I always told myself I will never let a man treat me this way..so as I got older I felt that if I controlled relationships and situations then I couldn't be hurt which I know how isn't always true! I've also had some people tell me I ALWAYS have to be right and too aggresive with them....so what I want to know is: Is this something that is in me (my chart) or shaped by personal experiences in my life as previous mentioned?? I know I can't make everyone happy but I would like to work on this if I can.....here is my chart. Also, numerology wise my life path is a 3...and that is all about dealing with emotions, ect so I'm sure that just adds to it if there is something in my chart that shows this!! Thanks!

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posted March 29, 2010 08:57 PM         

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I agree that you're a controlling person and that's shown by your jupiter conjunct saturn.

Just work on your personal issues step by step and it'll all work out, you know what you're doing certainly.

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posted March 29, 2010 09:04 PM         

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In my opinion what you describe fits the Scorpio Moon opposed by Chiron exactly.

But I dont't think it's easy to distinguish your personal experience from what is intrinsically in you. Moon signified Mother. Your Mom's experience really plays a major role in shaping the above mentioned character.

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posted March 29, 2010 10:02 PM         

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hahaha. I am the same! My family are always on high alert around me. I cant help it and i get upset if im too bitchy. But i have virgo rising like you and we worry or get stressed and need to control so we know everythings ok. Plus i think im smarter than everyone which makes me worse than you because my way is always right because ive already planned and assessed whatever and im more careful. I have sun and mercury in 10th too plus saturn in 1st. People think im carefree, just really demanding but i dont have time for mistakes in my life.. And no offence to anyone but i get really annoyed with uneducated, slow too patient type people. I love to be on top of things and control because i feel secure then and i love people with active minds. I seem to love other virgos and virgo rising because theyre similiar. My uncles has a virgo ascendant with pluto jup and uranus in 1st and is a mastermind. I hate this part of me so much and im also very impatient. I have cancer/gemini planets combined with bossy leo and severe mood swings when im unsettled. My family hate me cause i am always criticising every little thing they do. Oh and the best part is if i get criticised i crumble and sulk! Lol. Dont let control freak you out some crazy person out there still loves us were just difficult

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posted March 29, 2010 10:10 PM         

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scorpio moon is the hardest moon to have, imo. It is everything you described.

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posted March 29, 2010 10:38 PM         

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Glamgem, I think it's interesting because the Scorpio moon would probably say something about the controlled stuff, like Diana says. I've seen it in action.... also your moon gets no 'out', like a smooth aspect such a trine to make it get out its as you call it, controlling behavior. It gets a conjunction from Uranus and then that Opposition from Chiron. My moon does the same thing, but opposes Uranus and then conjuncts Chiron exactly. Moon is 1st reaction, and your 1st reaction is going to be going by those two hard aspects, which is not easy!

Also, your chart ruler, Mercury, is in the 10th. I think sometimes, the negative part of the 10th house is the 'should' stuff...Should do this, should not do that, etc... There's something kind of calculating with that. It wants controlled environments for the sake of SAFETY. But if you look at your NN, it's in the 11th house. So you will naturally outgrow this more and more

I wouldn't worry too much, you're doing fine. I'm not sugarcoating either - very few people actually look within, with the true to desire to learn and grow, so that's a huge advantage which you have

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posted March 29, 2010 11:04 PM         

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Its a true chicken or the egg situatuion. I think the way we interpret experiences is shown in our charts. Scorpio moons definitely prefer to be in control to protect themselves. You interpreted the experience of your parents a certain way.

I have a Libra moon opposite jupiter, but no other harsh aspects. My parents fight all the time, but this has never bothered me. I think other people with harsher moon aspects might not handle the constant fighting as well.

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posted March 29, 2010 11:06 PM         

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That's true certain aspects reflect a higher degree of sensitivity to the environment.

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posted March 29, 2010 11:08 PM         

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It is good for a woman to be on top. She has a better sense of direction than a man, if you know wut I'mean?

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posted March 29, 2010 11:10 PM         

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I was gonna say what MVM said, only not as intelligently (great, now Belgz hates me, lol), both my parents have Scorpio Moons, yes I survived!! My mom has changed/softened soooo much with the control thing, she is a Virgo sun.
My Dad is struggling a little bit more with it, he has a Scorpio sun, lol, but even with him, I notice an INITIAL freak out reaction when things don't go his way, but then, a resignation and a letting go.
So, yeah, what MVM said, I bet you grow out of that!

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posted March 29, 2010 11:10 PM         

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thank you all so far for the feedback...it's just one of those things..is this something I need to talk to someone about to get past the "past" or it's always gonna be there within me?

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posted March 29, 2010 11:12 PM         

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Gypsee..you know whats funny...is that my spouse is also Scorpio moon but he doesn't feel the need to control anything. He is so laid back and could care less who runs the show! Any show!! lol

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posted March 29, 2010 11:14 PM         

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MVM so glad to know I might outgrow it...sometimes I just get worn out having to be in control..I feel like handing the reins over to someone else but then I know I just won't like how they do it! LOL Sad!!

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posted March 29, 2010 11:17 PM         

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You could change that part of yourself in a snap. But it's SCARY lol. I'm a 'mostly' reformed control freak, so I sympathize

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posted March 29, 2010 11:22 PM         

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Belgz...we sound a lot alike. My family thinks the same thing about me..the thing is I feel I can truly be myself (honest and all) around them....I hold back in front of others! lol I am also very impatient and yes, mood swings! Ugh! Sad but true! :/

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posted March 29, 2010 11:25 PM         

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Lonake...that does sound scary!! I try to remind myself that the Lord is in control...to let go and let God but it still happens. Especially when it comes to my daughter...very overprotective. Quit a big job to stay home with her full-time because I trusted no one else to do it! I know I'm not perfect but it's just the need ot be in control. Also heard scorpio moons are protective over their children...called smothers instead of mothers! lol

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posted March 29, 2010 11:46 PM         

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I am 43, and my Dad is 64, he still grabs my hand when we cross the street, I swear to God.

My mother, same thing, she would "prefer" to go to doctor's appts with me, because she thinks she could "tell them better" whatever happens to be wrong with me. lol.
I love my parents, they crack me up, but, nobody controls sag's lol.

What is your spouse's sun in? That may be the laid back factor, or part of it.

*I know what you mean about thinking that you want somebody to take control, but you know they wouldn't do as good as a job.
Thing about this is, life is funny, and sometimes throws you big a$$ curve balls, like it did to me, when I got sick some years ago.
I watched everything I had "under control" crumble, and eventually morph into something different, not better, nor worse, just different.
Funny what you learn to accept.

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posted March 29, 2010 11:49 PM         

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I try to let go a lil bit every day so when mine is grown/leaves home it won't feel like the big heartbreak that I now imagine it to be, Moon sq Pluto.
But she does get stronger when I give her more room, more room to manuever lil by lil.
When I take the time to think about it, being a parent is the scariest thing I've chosen to do.
I try not to think about it !

Does your daughter have any Moon/Pluto? Look at the Moon, because it seems no matter what, we're all pretty hard wired to experience certain things with our mothers. The exact opposite could be true but it's our perceptions that we carry -within-.
My girl has Moon trine Jupiter and I could blow a gasket going through my internal emotional extremes (lazy side of moon sq pluto) and she'll just sit there so happy, she is so happy to be here and be alive, I don't understand it, I was always so scared and quiet as a child: perception. I think the Moon is really what we hook into. I mean I'm the 'Jupiter' mom too, teaching her things at home that I know the school doesn't let her in on yet, just to make things easier when she does have to get started on it, knowing class sizes special needs and all that. But that's more to my Sadge 5th house, h5 showing in the parenting style people tend to adopt, it seems.
What's your h5 glamgem?

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posted March 29, 2010 11:51 PM         

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Gypsee...that's cute about your parents!! lol

My spouses sun sign is the same as mine..gemini too...and same ASC! lol

I know what you're saying...that even though I think I have control, the universe will show me at times that indeed I am not!! I do understand that...sometimes I think if something happened to me, my spouse wouldn't even know what to do about paying bills. He's never sat down to pay one bill!!

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posted March 29, 2010 11:55 PM         

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Lonake....here is my daughter's chart. She is only 2 and she is my first and only so hopefully the overprotectiveness will gradually get better!!

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posted March 29, 2010 11:57 PM         

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What's your h5 glamgem?

What does this mean??? I have aquarius in my 5th house if that is what you're asking...

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posted March 30, 2010 12:34 AM         

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Oh yea the 1st, they get the burden of our lack of expertise! They're the ones that have to suffer through our adventures in parenting lol.

Hmm, Moon rules H4, it's in H4 and in Leo. Seems to say she feels really bonded and a pride about her home. No one better talk bad about it, or else. She needs the spotlight within the home and from people she loves to be comfortable, needs desperately to be acknowledged for her efforts, and is quite sensitive. This shows too with Aries rising which is actually a very sensitive sign underneath the aggro. Her chart ruler Mars is Cancer in h3 so that shows too that's it's pretty much a show, Mars Cancer is also a placement that curbs too much outward expression of anger, tends to bottle up inside. She'll likely seem moody to others growing up with the way she expresses herself (h3 is the way our neighbors etc see us how we go about meeting people in our community, which is a big thing cos thats her chart ruler's home) but she has talent later on with creativity and expressing her inner self, its trine mercury scorpio h8 so she's poised to be a very honest direct person, moreso than most because she's in tune and direct with her wants, again mirrored with the moon being leo. there's a grand trine with nn in pisces in h12, interesting so her path is really in uncovering hidden aspects and she was born with this cloak to partly hide her sensitivity. Leo's a sensitive sign as well. I wouldnt count the opp to Chiron from moon, seems too wide. The square to Mercury in Scorpio H8, looks like it would lead to sensitivity in communications with you, so if you want 'advice' be aware she's going to be reading a lot into what you're saying, so make sure to be honest and strive for clarity. She's mercury scorp h8 so likely she'll be able to read the 'truth' anyway. She'll -possibly- be prone to hypersensitivity and with fixed signs it may feel to her like its ingrained. Just know she may have tendency to 'overreact' and may be very sensitive to you forcing any ideas on her. This could be a bone of contention since fixed signs don't like to give in. But she is a Libra after all, I wouldnt count the supposed square to mars, it looks like it just sextiles jupiter and trines chiron.

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posted March 30, 2010 12:37 AM         

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Right, the sign on cusp of h5, the ruler's placement and aspects, as well as planets placed therein.

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posted March 30, 2010 02:30 AM         

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Cancer placements make you seek safety like the naked crab running for his shell.
That seeking of safety can make you feel that you want to control
I am finding that safety can't be gotten through control.
That is a life lesson that I am learning very,very slowly.
Ami

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posted March 30, 2010 05:29 AM         

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Well now I know why Diana loves me so
much.

It's my Virgo rising!!!!

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