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raspberri
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posted April 08, 2010 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
First of all trines and sextiles do nothing for me with these planets.

But the hard aspects of Venus/Mars are insane. Venus square Mars exact the chemistry is outta control.

I haven't had any exact Venus/Pluto contacts with anyone so I'd like to know about them.
Are they better than Venus/Mars?

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Lara
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posted April 08, 2010 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
hmmm well i have these with someone:

his venus sq my pluto 1'
my venus cj his mars 0'
my venus sextile his venus 0'
his venus semi sextile my mars 0'
his mars semi sextile my mars 0'
we also have a DW mars/pluto and moon/mars.

I have to say that the venus/mars conjunct i've never had before and it's really lovely and romantic (?)
The venus/pluto square is just intense and sexy, i think?
Maybe i'm not a good person to answer this because we so many exact degree aspects it might be confusing me

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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 08, 2010 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
If you have hard aspects in your own chart, you'll probably need the hard aspects in synastry to feel stuff.

Second of all, I am not a big believer in either aspect being a big deal unless those planets are important in both natal charts. Meaning, if they relate to angles or angle rulers.

My ex husband and I had an exact Venus/Pluto square (I was Pluto). BUT. He has that in his own chart also. So it's generational.
However, since I have Pluto as my 7th house ruler and Scorpio Venus, I am susceptible to that aspect. He also had Pluto in his 7th house, so yeah, he probably felt it.
It was extremely intense and lots of love and hate. Strngly sexual, but you know, again, I don't think you can look at that one aspect and be like, Oooh, that's why it was sexual. There's more going on which made it sexual. Like my Neptune on his Mars, his Mars in my 8th. That kind of thing. There's a theme going on, and you can see it repeating itself.

I think this aspect of Pluto and Venus DEMANDS growth. If one person is going to deny that growth, then things won't work. Then you get power struggles without end, which might start out all sexy but then turn draining and sap the life out of you, no matter how 'used' to hard aspects you are.
He didn't handle that aspect well in his own chart, so it's not surprising that he couldn't handle it in synastry either.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted April 08, 2010 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Oh, are they better than Venus/Mars? I don't know. I have the opposition in my chart. I had the exact square with someone and it was really sexy. Venus is my chart ruler, so yeah, HARD Venus or Mars stuff gets me going. But the aspect I had wasn't with a long term relationship. It was with someone I just kind of dated. Great sex. That's about it.

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raspberri
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posted April 08, 2010 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raspberri     Edit/Delete Message
Ya,

Venus is my chart ruler and Mars is the co ruler of his 7th house cusp and we have them in exact square.

I was thinking if someone has a Taurus ASC would Mars still be counted as their DSC ruler?

If so the aspect is vaild.

What about Venus opposition Pluto when Pluto is exactly on the Pluto persons 7th house Scorpio cusp? The Other persons Taurus Venus is on the Pluto Persons Taurus ASC exactly?

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Lioness
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posted April 08, 2010 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message
I have some of these aspects with someone. I will post what I was given for the meanings
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His Pluto in Her 7th House

Her attraction to him is magnetic,almost hypnotic,but your partnership may be plagued by jealousies and power struggles. Her relationship with him can have a lasting effect on her, transforming the way you relate to other people, and may occasion the end of a previous tie.

Here's another meaning I got for the same
He has a magnetic quality and your association has utterly transformed your life. You were so compulsively drawn to him from the very beginning,resistance would have been difficult. You're forces to examine your own most intense feelings.

It is important for this relationship to maintain a resonable balance of power. If His strong need to dominate is unchallenged,you will withdraw in a subtle way and a relationship which could be unusually intimate could become a den of manipulation.

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YES I was drawn to him from the start! I have known him for 5 years, but I was married and never did or said anything. I just watched him from afar. I kinda teased him and just did little jokes with him. Like tap his left shoulder and when he turned around I was gone... Ok childish but I really needed to touch him.. I never understood it, just kinda felt like I had to tease or mess with him.

Venus opps Pluto in Synastry
You love each other very intensely and intimately, Your desires to be with each other may be overwhelming at times and it is important to honor each others individual need for empowerment. This relationship will also change you both at a very core level, so the power may tend to have you swinging between the extremes on intense love and control issues. It would be helpful to maintain a focus on loving and letting go whilst in this relationship and this will automatically support your partner in their individual power.
Here is another description I received

Venus Opps Pluto in a Composite (pasted)

The two of you are compelled to come together by powerful and largely unconscious
forces. You may meet or become close under particularly fateful and difficult circumstances, such as during a personal crisis or some mutual loss, which gives your
relationship an intensity and depth that few other relationships could compare to. The
emotions that will surface between you two will be extreme. You could easily become
obsessed, with one of you playing the pursuer and the other much more reluctant but unable somehow to resist. The feeling is something like being under a spell, deeply and irresistibly attracted but somewhat against your conscious will or better judgment.
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Both of us have Venus Square Pluto in our Natal charts:

Both of you have Venus conjunct or in hard aspect to Pluto:

For both of you, love is an intense, deep, all-consuming experience which will take you both to heaven and to hell! Each of you is learning about love and sexuality, and how to use your magnetic or attractive powers in a positive way. Issues of control, power, and surrender, of possessiveness, trust, and jealousy, and of the potential for healing inner, psychic wounds through loving and being loved will arise again and again for each of you, no matter who you are with. However, together all of
these matters are intensified, so your relationship will no doubt be a very "hot" one - nothing lukewarm about it! There is apt to be a love-hate quality to your relationship as you trigger one another's deepest needs, vulnerabilities, and hidden or forbidden feelings. At least both of you have a "taste" for this kind of intensity!
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Oh boy not really sure how to describe all this. Well the first Venus opps Pluto in the synastry isn't us at all. The composite is more us. We go back and fourth with each other. Ones hot, the other is cold. Make and fourth. BLAK!!! Its a totally mess. Yes I am guilty of it also. LOL...
We are both extremely aloof with each other, then one day we can't stop looking at each other. We just have these deep stares, then I think both of us freak out and then get cold with each other (maybe our hard venus aspects). We both try to pull away but some how, something happens and boom the other has to get in contact with the other. Its extremely confusing. I wanna run, but I want to stay. I glad he's around, but Im ok when he's not. We can go a week or so w/o any contact, neither of us get mad or upset with the other, we just dont talk. We both I guess ok with it....

Sorry if this doesn't make sense. Im trying to put it into words which is extremely difficult.
Hope these meanings help.....

(thanks to astro cafe)

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popcorn
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posted April 08, 2010 10:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for popcorn     Edit/Delete Message
I've venus,NN and mars in tight conj in my N chart. On my job many people born from 1969 to 1973 have pluto in square to my stellium venus/NN/mars. I not feel anything special and I think there must be more another strong in connection before I feel it like a DW. If someone have one pluto in square and example his/hers mars trine my stellium I feel the pluto trigger. In the beginning I often like the person but after a time I feel other not always good feelings. I say for my self stomach feelings or intuition...

I've a togheter with my exhusbands pluto in sextile to my stellium venus/NN/mars. Exhusband nr 2 have his venus/neptunus/pluto/AC aspect to my saturn and my stellium venus/NN/mars and all of this togheter give us the synastri Kite. In our 15 year togheter we never have any problems to syncronise our feelings and sex togheter. Sex was always good.

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Cheshire Kat
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posted April 08, 2010 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting, my Venus is in Leo and since Pluto is a generational planet, my Venus would probably square mostly everyone in my peer group's Pluto in Scorpio..perhaps..

I like DW's because whatever I am going through the person seems to understand cause they are going through the same thing, a sort of mutual bonding and it's even more mutual when the person as the same aspect in their natal chart, so they are even more prepared for the aspect's energy in synastry.

I now like to compare natals seperatly and see if there are some similarities, for example:

If I was dating a person with Venus in Scorpio and I had Venus in the 8th, we'd have bit of mutuality going on but mines would be more Leonine then Scorpion.Even if our Venuses were squared and I feel a bit of a inkling to them.

I have a few similarities with close friends in natals.

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