posted April 10, 2010 07:37 AM         

Mars is also squaring the Geocentric North Eris Node in 5'53 Taurus and the Heliocentric Eris Nodes in 6'10 Taurus/Scorpio. (collective Eris energy)

discord,controversy,generating debate

Sun has been squaring the Heliocentric Pluto Nodes in 20'26 Cancer/Capricorn (collective Pluto energy)

transformation,death

There is also the Saturn-Uranus opposition

The wounded healer centaur,Chiron is in 29'32 Aquarius is in opposition to the transneptunian dwarf planet candidate/plutino Etruscan Underworld God-named Orcus in 0'11 Virgo R.

today

MOSCOW – Polish President Lech Kaczynski and some of the country's highest military and civilian leaders died on Saturday when the presidential plane crashed as it came in for a landing in thick fog in western Russia, killing 96, officials said. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/eu_russia_plane_crash

MOSCOW – Russia threatened to suspend all child adoptions by U.S. families Friday after a 7-year-old boy adopted by a woman from Tennessee was sent alone on a one-way flight back to Moscow with a note saying he was violent and had severe psychological problems. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100410/ap_on_re_eu/eu_russia_adopted_boy

I didn't sleep at all.
I am supposed to be going to a psychic fair today with my shaman friend. I have to leave at 6 am.
My lunar return was this morning,and it has that Sun-Eris conjunction oppose/conjunct Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis. so that Sun-Eris conjunction is going to be a major theme for my 27 1/2 day lunar return period.
My Shaman friend has Sun-Eris conjunction with a little under half a degree orb,and so the the Sun-Eris conjunction could work out well for him at the psychic fair. I have Sun oppose/conjunct Eris Nodes with 10 minutes. Maybe Sun-Eris might be good for me too.

but yeah

people who have lunar returns yesterday,today and tomorrow be aware of the Sun-Eris conjunction in your lunar return chart, especially if its aspecting one of the angle axies in the chart

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posted April 10, 2010 10:00 AM         

how fast does eris cycle around the zodiac ?
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posted April 10, 2010 12:10 PM         

Sun/eris quinkunx juno/pallas 20 scorp

posted April 10, 2010 01:19 PM         

It's trine my n. moon by 2 degrees....

posted April 10, 2010 03:59 PM         

The Sun-Eris conjunction is wide though,
with Sun on 19°01 Aries and
Eris on 21°33 Aries (at least I think it`s wide, what do you think?)

It`s framing my natal Chiron on 20°02 Aries though.

it`s also conjunct LRC IC on 19°22 Aries.

posted April 11, 2010 12:25 AM         

Happy Dragon,

Eris is a dwarf planet, Plutoid that has an orbital period of 557 years.

It's actually a scattered disk object which means that it orbits in a distant of the Solar System that is sparsely populated by icy minor planets, a subset of the broader family of trans-Neptunian objects. The scattered disc objects have orbital eccentricities ranging as high as 0.8, inclinations as high as 40°, and perihelia greater than 30 astronomical units.

It has a Persephone-Proserpina-like orbit. It orbits near Pluto during half of its orbital period,and it orbits far from Pluto during the other half of its orbital period. Michael Brown actually thought Persephone and Proserpina were good names for Eris, but they were given to asteroids. He wanted to name it after a mythological character outside of Greek-Roman mythology, but the name was rejected by the IAU.

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posted April 11, 2010 12:44 AM         

"LR eris is conjunt my LR IC. What should I be careful of

It's trine my n. moon by 2 degrees....

What would happen with it (t.eris) conjunct n.venus?"

Diana,

being careful of how you handle matters involving equality,and diversity which can make you appear to be discordant and controversial to people who embrace the status quo.
Considering the viewpoints of others and not arguing to be right and make others wrong is also a good way to handle Eristic energy. Advocacy (standing for one's rights and the rights of others) can also be a good way to use the Eristic energy. Tolerance of diversity and treat others equally is good way to use it too.

Eris' co-discoverer Dr. Michael Brown said the following about naming Eris:

“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.” http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/14/science/15xenacnd.html?ex=1315886400&en=30e10f0d60a8d2af&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

In his blog, he even said its naming almost made him believe in Astrology!

This is what he said in his blog:

"We take naming objects in the solar system very carefully. We’ve picked out the names for Quaoar (creation force of the Tongva tribe who live in Los Angeles), Orcus (the earlier Etruscan counterpart to Pluto, for an object that appears much like a twin of Pluto), Sedna (the Inuit goddess of the sea, for the coldest most distant Kuiper belt object at the time), and Eris (the greek goddess of discord and strife, for the object that finally led to the demotion of Pluto). Each of these names came after considerable thought and debate, and each of them fit some characteristic of the body that made us feel that it was appropriate."

"Coming up with a new permanent name for Easterbunny was the hardest of all of these. Orcus and Sedna fit the character of the orbit of the body. Eris was so appropriate it is enough to make me almost start believing in astrology. Quaoar was, we felt, a nice tribute to the fact that all mythological deities are not Greek or Roman." http://www.mikebrownsplanets.com/2008/07/whats-in-name-part-2.html

Easterbunny was the nickname of Haumea before it was given an official name just like Xena was the nickname of Eris before it was offically named.

Dr. Michael Brown actually says that he loves astrologers!

"Please don’t tell any of my fellow astronomers, but I love astrologers. Really I do." http://www.mikebrownsplanets.com/2008/01/i-heart-astrologers.html

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posted April 11, 2010 12:54 AM         

DD,

It's within the 3 degree orb that I use for conjunctions,oppositions,trines,squares involving the transneptunian dwarf planets,dwarf planet candidates. I'd count it.

However, 1 degree orb is what I would use for conjunction to a transneptunian dwarf planet,dwarf planet candidate to show a major theme that can't be ignored.

3 degree orb is actually the orb that I would use for conjunction,opposition,trine,square involving planets to show a major theme that can't be ignored.
I want to use a 5 degree orb as the actual standard orb for conjunction,opposition,trine,square involving planets.

of course, sextile is included if the Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis, Ascendant/Descendant axis, Vertex/Antivertex Axis, and Lunar Node axis are being used for they are axises.
East Point/West Point axis could be considered,but it's hardly used.

1 degree for conjunction,opposition,trine,square,sextile to the nodes (geocentric,heliocentric) of transneptunian dwarf planets,dwarf planet candidates.
15 minutes of arc for the the nodes to show a major theme that can't be ignored.

Please note that the geocentric nodes of objects are usually not exactly opposite each other like heliocentric nodes are.
There are periods of time that the geocentric and heliocentric nodes converge

In the system that I am considering, I'd focus on major themes which can be about narrow orbed aspects and multiple connections to certain energies

for example....as this is a thread on Eris, and so I will use Eris as an example

I have a strong Eris theme in my chart

Sun oppose/conjunct Heliocentric Eris Nodes - '10 (a major theme)
Sun conjunct Geocentric South Eris Node - '09 (a major theme)
Sun oppose Geocentric North Eris Node - '10 (a major theme)
(I was born when the Heliocentric and Geocentric Eris Nodes were in almost exact convergence with the Sun aligned with them.)

Eris sextile/trine Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis - 1'01 (this is just 1 minute away from being a major theme)
Eris sextile/trine Lunar Nodes - 1'45

Eris sextile/trine Vertex/Antivertex axis - 2'43

Ceres trine Eris - 1'42

Uranus oppose Eris - 3'03 (this is just 2 minutes away from the orb that I use)

Pluto contraparallel Eris - '20

so altogether a very strong theme

Of course, it's in synchroncity with my life involving matters involving diversity,equality,advocacy that also includes discord,controversy because of my conflict with the status quo which include my neurodivergence,my multiracial ancestry,and not fitting male stereotypes,alternative spiritual/religious beliefs which led to me to learning lessons of diversity,equality and me believing in women's rights,homosexual rights, and neurodiversity rights as believing that there are many religious,spiritual paths with truth. My neurodiversity advocacy and forming the nonprofit neurodiversity organization, Developmental Neurodiversity Association which is now active. Secretary of State approved my application for nonprofit corporation on March 30th which happens to be the birthday of my best friend,Steve and my exgirlfriend, Meghann. The nonprofit organization is considered active since my application filed on March 16th. Transiting Venus was conjunct my Eris less than 1 degree that day.

My best friend, a shaman who was recommended me for healing work on me and is helping me prepare for my life purpose as neurodiversity advocate, has Sun conjunct Eris with 26 minutes of arc. It took a Sun-Eris person to help me with my life purpose. I am friends with a woman who has Sun-Eris conjunction within 1 degree, and I recommended her to my shaman friend. He does healing work on her,and they are friends now.

Eris is a strong theme with my mother too. She and I have Moon square Eris in our composite chart with 31 minutes of arc.

My mother's Solar Arc Sun was square her Natal Eris with 11 minutes of arc applying when she gave birth to me. Her Solar Arc Venus was conjunct her Natal Sedna with 9 minutes applying and square her Venus with 16 minutes separating at that time too. My mother began an interracial relationship with my father and conceived me when Solar Arc Eris square her Natal Venus with 25 minutes of arc applying.

Currently my Solar Arc Moon is conjunct my Eris - '18 applying

In my Current Solar Return, Eris trine/sextile Midheaven/Imum Coeli - '21

In my Current Lunar Return, Eris oppose/conjunct Midheaven/Imum Coeli - '20

That seems to reinforce my Eris trine/sextile Midheaven/Imum Coeli - 1'01

This seems to be about starting Developmental Neurodiversity Association.

Eris is really a huge theme in my life.

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posted April 11, 2010 01:41 AM         

WOW...those are strong nodal connections. Yeah...those are no joke.

wow..transiting Chiron-Orcus opposition on your Ascendant/Descendant axis?

What's going on with you that applies to the symbolisms of Chiron and Orcus?

"Hmm maybe it's coz my Mars is conjunct those Eris nodes that I feel like wanting to do something whenever I see disputes around? Natally, I have Eris conjunct Mercury and trine Uranus, and transit Eris is conjunct my Moon/Venus."

Yeah...especially if you want to stand up for others, advocating for the rights of others.

Mercury-Eris trine Uranus would indicate a divergent,lateral,metaphysically oriented,innovative thinker that can be good at looking at things from different perspectives ,having alternative perceptions,viewpoints.

It's a good aspect for communicating as an advocate,activist.

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A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.

posted April 11, 2010 06:25 AM         

I forgot to include the sextiles for those. sorry

3 degree orb for sextile for planets. 1 degree for a major theme

2 degree orb for sextile for transneptunians.
30 minutes of arc for a major theme

orbs for sextiles would be wider for angle axises,vertex/antivertex axises and node axises because a sextile to one point of the axis is trine to the opposite point of the axis.
so they would have the same orb that I'd use for conjunction,opposition,square,trine
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posted April 11, 2010 01:26 PM         

Lara,

Eris has its positives too which I mentioned.

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posted April 11, 2010 05:37 PM         

quote:

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wow..transiting Chiron-Orcus opposition on your Ascendant/Descendant axis?

What's going on with you that applies to the symbolisms of Chiron and Orcus?

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quote:

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"Hmm maybe it's coz my Mars is conjunct those Eris nodes that I feel like wanting to do something whenever I see disputes around? Natally, I have Eris conjunct Mercury and trine Uranus, and transit Eris is conjunct my Moon/Venus."

Yeah...especially if you want to stand up for others, advocating for the rights of others.

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quote:

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Mercury-Eris trine Uranus would indicate a divergent,lateral,metaphysically oriented,innovative thinker that can be good at looking at things from different perspectives ,having alternative perceptions,viewpoints.

It's a good aspect for communicating as an advocate,activist.

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posted April 11, 2010 06:24 PM         

One of the ways to understand an astrological influence is consider the astronomical,physical features.

Orcus is a transneptunian object for it orbits beyond Heptune. It's an object that would be consider highly metaphysically oriented for it orbits beyond Neptune, the planet associated with dissolution of boundaries,mystical,and psychism. Once, you get past Neptune, you get into the unknown.

Philip Sedgwick says that transneptunian dwarf planets,dwarf planet candiates are evolutionary intensified objects.Evolutionary suggests that emotional and spiritual crisis induced by the presence and passage of these bodies intends to enhance the insight, inspiration, creativity and consciousness of a person on Earth and through events on Earth containing these bodies in significant locations.

Orcus is a plutino for it has an orbit that 3:2 orbital resonance with Neptune just like Pluto does. That means that for every time Neptune orbits 3 times around the Sun, the Orcus orbits twice around the Sun.

As a rule, astronomers give mythological Underworld character names to plutinos.

In Orcus' case, it was given the name of a god of the underworld, punisher of broken oaths in Italic and Roman mythology. He was more equivalent to the Roman Pluto than to the Greek Hades, and later identified with Dis Pater. Orcus is thought to have Etruscan origins.

Therefore, Orcus is similar to Pluto both astronomically and astrologically.

Orcus orbital period is 245.33 years
Pluto's orbital period is 248.09 years

As you see, Their orbital periods are only 3 years apart. Very close.

Philip Sedgwick devised preliminary keywords based on not just the name but also the astronomical features of the object as well as the zodiac sign placement of both its North Node and Perihelion (the closest point of an objects orbit to the Sun).

Orcus North Node is in Sagittarius,and its Perihelion is in Pisces. So logically Philip Sedgwick thought Orcus had some traits that involve Sagittarius and Pisces.

His preliminary keywords for Orcus are the following:

Positive: a person of one’s word, challenges broken promises, aligned with a spiritual creed, accountable for personal thought, word and deed

Negative: hypocritical, fault finding in the ways of others, blame assigning, ducks responsibility for word and actions, unable to keep promises

Mundane: contracts, oaths to organizations, religions or countries, creeds

Ceremonial: declaring faith, writing creeds, channeling the latest cosmic downloads and formatting it into doctrine

Mark Andrew Holmes has the following as preliminary keywords for Orcus:

popularity, populism, private effort, the grass roots (according to Jonathan Dunn); bringing death (according to Chryss Alexander); also, audacity, boldness, "seizing the day," questioning or challenging, dissent, predatory, ravaging, corruption, a fallen state, heavy or strong retaliation, having something to say, giving up or giving in. http://www.markandrewholmes.com/orcus.html

Orcus has a moon named Vanth after
a goddess in Etruscan mythology who guides the dead to the underworld. She often appears on tomb paintings and sarcophagi where she is depicted with wings and a torch, and she is frequently shown in the presence of Charun, a guard of the underworld.

Here is an astrological article on Orcus and Vanth http://www.midlandsschoolofastrology.co.uk/vanth_and_orcus_astrology_of_our_new_guid e.html

Here is an astrological article on dwarf planets: http://www.midlandsschoolofastrology.co.uk/introduction_to_dwarf_planets_for_astr ologers.html

from the article:

Likewise in this current age of accelerated growth, there are massive discoveries and shifts in all areas of human endeavour and as with the discovery of Uranus and Neptune, we now have new planets that will symbolize significant, emerging collective influences. The new discoveries are in the Kuiper Belt, which is a doughnut shaped ring around the outer edge of our Solar System containing thousands of rocky objects. It is outside of Neptune and looks like a swarm of bees from space.

It all began in 2003, with a refurbished telescope and a complex, new digital camera that was constructed by a collaboration of many dozens of scientists from 4 astronomical and scientific institutions in California. The many different project groups in the Palomar-QUEST survey² were to look for exploding stars and black holes in the Universe, any asteroids that might hit Earth and any planets that might exist in the Kuiper Belt.

Five years later, the main astronomers in the planet search group, David Rabinowitz, Mike Brown and Chad Trujillo certainly had a result and enjoyed the glamour of extensive media coverage. But several other groups also gleaned considerable and valuable base line information about the Cosmos, time dimensions, dark matter distribution, cosmic rays and energy generation.

The astronomers have wholeheartedly immersed themselves in mythological symbolism and broadly assigned the inner Kuiper Belt to the Underworld and the outer Kuiper Belt to Creation.³ This has helped us out with the astrological understanding considerably, so it was no surprise to see that the Kuiper Belt discoveries coincided with the recent advancements in quantum physics; it’s theories of hidden, invisible dimensions and the search for the holy grail of creation.

It simply remained to re-read the ancient texts in the light of the new science and it became pretty obvious that the Dark realms, which contain variously Chaos, the Duat, the Underworld and the Ether, are the missing multiple dimensions that science now predicts underpin our dimension. After adding everything up in the Universe – all the stars and planets, the Earth, you, me and the cat – they worked out that in order for everything to stay where it is and not fly apart, there must be another 96% of stuff that we can’t detect. It’s missing. The scientists even named this missing 96% `dark` matter and `dark` energy - an unconscious nod at Pluto.

Add to that a Dan Brown blockbuster movie to give us some background knowledge of the Large Hadron Collider and it’s search for the hidden Multiverse or a Big Bang moment and now we are all in the loop. (Well, sort of, my mother’s having a few problems with it!)

Pluto-Charon of the Kuiper Belt.

Those who ignore the re-classification of Pluto to dwarf planet, miss the opportunity to explore rich new facets of his buried treasure, whilst resisting the very change and evolution that he represents. And although this is a contentious issue, it is now also prudent to look for the astrological meaning behind the I.A.U.’s August 2006 surprise announcement(7) that Pluto’s moon, Charon, should also be called a dwarf planet, making them a binary dwarf planet.

Charon qualifies because he and Pluto are a comparable size and they orbit each other; the center of gravity of each planet being in the space between them instead of within the planet. They are locked together like a giant dumb-bell spinning in space. However, the lively debate about Pluto seems to have buried Charon’s proposed new status, so the jury is still out and the I.A.U. have deferred the matter for another meeting.(8) We discovered that Pluto was actually two(9) in 1978, when he was inside Neptune’s orbit, but this was understandably ignored by astrology since it made no difference to his influence. So why should we take it into account now?

Pluto-Charon were responsible for flagging up the presence of the Kuiper Belt, which was eventually revealed because their odd angle of orbit to the classical planets necessitated further investigation. They were therefore early indicators and gateway to the Kuiper Belt and it is this context that makes Charon’s symbolic presence more important now. In Greek myth he was the ferryman who took the souls of the dead over the river to Pluto’s realm. Before him, the Egyptian Pyramid Texts of c.3,000BC told of a ferryman for the winding watercourse,(10) and 1,000 years after that Mesopotamian myth told of a boatman on the waters of Death.¹¹ The ancients knew that immense journeys of discovery into other realms required a spiritual guide.

The whole trans Neptune experience is a metaphor for discovery and we need some guidance from deity on this potentially difficult passage. Charon the ferryman was not just the oarsman, he decided who got on the boat and whether or not they were sufficiently spiritually prepared to board. He was a stern over-seer, who demanded coins for his ferrying. The coins are possibly a metaphor for the wisdom gained in an appropriately conducted lifetime. They indicate the proper preparation.

Traditionally, Pluto describes the decay and transformation part of the life cycle, but he also represents nuclear and atomic and so governs particle physics’ quest to discover the hidden secrets of the atom, with it’s invisible, ghost or `dark` particles. Pluto’s discovery ushered in the “Miracle Year” of British physics,¹² with the splitting of the atom and the theoretical discovery of dark matter and energy. However, the science was so hard to explain and understand, the public gave a yawn and turned to the sports page.

Science has now built the Large Hadron Collider to investigate what exists in the invisible dimensions that spawned our creation. They will learn about the formation of our dimension from quantum-ruled pure energy to matter and form. The human race will learn of the Big Bang or `Fall` of mankind to the earthly Upperworld¹³ and science will cross from this dimension to our origins. For this we will need a guide and Charon looks like a suitable candidate.

The dwarfs may be smaller in scale to the classicals, but small does not mean insignificant, as we know from our experience of Pluto’s power. The dwarf planets represent god/desses from the middle rankings just as the classical planets do and this makes them of equal importance. That said, the biggest reason is this....

We don't need astrology to tell us life is getting more complex..... but we do need an astrology to describe it!!
http://www.midlandsschoolofastrology.co.uk/introduction_to_dwarf_planets_for_astr ologers.html

in my own chart:
Sun contraparallel Orcus with 1 minute of arc (there is also a Sun biseptile Orcus with 1 minute of arc...so a bilevel)

Venus trine Orcus with 41 minutes of arc

my mother has Orcus conjunct/oppose Ascendant/Descendant with 10 minutes of arc

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posted April 12, 2010 09:29 PM         

Eris 21,35 aries
Quacor 21,30 sag
sedna 21.20 taurus
BML 21,37 aqua
nessus 20,16 aqua
vesta 21,49 leo

posted April 24, 2010 08:59 AM         

I also have follow in LR this month

LR DC 28,25 in aries
LR Sun 27,38 in aries
N Sedna 29,30 in aries.

Do you think this works? Can I count sedna,sun,DC like a stellium or is it out of orb? I think about midpoints and because there are more than one the orb could be bigger. What do you think?

posted April 24, 2010 01:28 PM         

The strong Sedna lunar return stuff seems like a time for becoming more spiritual,sensitivity,conscious,compassionate but to avoid things like betrayal,victimization,abuse,and being a martyr.

You might encounter people like that with it being conjunct Descendant.

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Raymond

Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.