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CrazyAquarian
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posted April 13, 2010 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message
I am confused on how to find these......is there a chart on astro? Or is this something you do on your own? How do you see the aspects with a midpoint?

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posted April 13, 2010 06:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for braveheart     Edit/Delete Message
CrazyAquarian,

Yes, there is a chart on astro. On the extended chart selection page click on "pullen/astrolog" then go to the drop down menu and select aspect/midpoint chart, and click to show chart. Presto.

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posted April 13, 2010 06:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you!

AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! I'm supposed to understand this? lol

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posted April 13, 2010 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message
Wait......I think I'm getting it now........ Hmm

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posted April 13, 2010 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message
Grr is there site that describes the mid-points?

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posted April 13, 2010 06:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message
Nope, I'm confused LOL

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posted April 13, 2010 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for braveheart     Edit/Delete Message

I'm sorry I can't offer any help that way. Just google "midpoint interpretations" and see what comes up.

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Here are midpoints information from Cafeastrology. I copied the Sun midpoints for you. The rest of them can be found at the link.

Midpoint Pictures in Astrology
Keep in mind that there are many possible meanings for each midpoint picture. These, however, should serve as a good starting point.

MC (Midheaven) The soul of the native per se, the so-called "ego", therefore the most important point In the horoscope. The "I", the spiritual. Intellectual and social Impressions. The minute, the moment.
AS (Ascendant) Acquaintances. Connections within the surroundings. The place.
SO (Sun) The body, the physical being.
MO (Moon) Female persons. The public. Changeable things. The hour.
ME (Mercury) Movement. The content of thinking. Thought. News. Conception. opinion. Assertion.
VE (Venus) Peace. Good will. Help. Inclination. Love. Desire. Feeling.
MA (Mars) Impulse. Resolve. The will. Decision. Activity. To do. Accomplishment (mechanical kind).
JU (Jupiter) Gaiety. Contentment and happiness, Good luck, money, success.
SA (Saturn) Restriction. To bridle. To hinder. Separations. Losses.
UR (Uranus) Suddenness.
NE (Neptune) Deceptions. Losses. Dissolutions.
PL (Pluto) Inner change. Perception. Transformation. Development. Metamorphoses. Immediate past.

Midpoint Pictures with the Sun
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SO/MO=ME The train of thoughts during the hours of the day. Intimate conversations with others. Friendship or thoughts of marriage. Interesting days and hours. Young friendships.
SO/ME=MO The young mate (marriage partner). The young body of a woman. To think of women. The male who has relationships with women at an early age.
MO/ME=SO Brain, nerves and glandular functions. A man's young wife. The schedule. The daily plan. The daily office hours.
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SO/MO=VE A friendship of love. A marriage of love. Husband and wife in harmony. Peaceful hours.
SO/VE=MO Beautiful body of a woman. To be in love. Expressions of love.
MO/VE=SO Woman's love for the man. The man who is favored by women. The mother. Daily repeating harmonious hours.
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SO/MO=MA Marriage. Wedlock. The act of marriage. A marriage of reproduction. A sexual friendship. A sex relationship. One's daily work.
SO/MA=MO The woman's husband. The active hours of the day.
MO/MA=SO The time of work during the day. The daily work. An active man. The man's wife.
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SO/MO=JU Days of good luck. Fortunate experiences take place daily and hourly. Fortunate friendships. A fortunate marriage. The increase in the family. Child-birth.
SO/JU=MO The bridegroom. A fortunate and happy husband. A lucky day for women. The contented population. Choosing the right moment.
MO/JU=SO The daily repetition of happy hours. A man's happy woman.
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SO/MO=SA Serious and difficult times. Not a good time to marry. obstacles to marriage. Sorrowful marital states. Sudden enmity in friendship and marriage. Divorce and separation.
SO/SA=MO To be without a mate. A man separated from a woman. The divorced man. Separations from females.
MO/SA=SO Divorced woman. The man's widow. Daily repeating hours of being alone. To be moody or depressed because of general personal or bodily conditions.
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SO/MO=UR Exciting and trying days. Daily tension in partnership and marriage. Sudden events in a partnership. A clash with a friend or mate. Sudden hostility or separation.
SO/UR=MO Sudden events that take place to women. The exciting course of the day.
MO/UR=SO Energetic woman. The man-defying woman. To lead an active life. An eventful hour of the day.
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SO/MO=NE Days of uncertainty. Cooling off in partnerships, friendships or marriage because of deceptive situation, misunderstandings or lies. The denial of a partnership or a marriage. To ultimately separate.
SO/NE=MO The divorced man. Death of the husband. To be dependent on mood or feeling. A weak husband.
MO/NE=SO The relaxed or sleeping body. Physical sensitivity. Mediumistic state.
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SO/MO=PL The course of the day. Daily absorption of food. Development and transformation of a partnership or marriage.
SO/PL=MO The glandular action. The circulation. The influence of the daily habits on physical development. The physical development of females (of a female).
MO/PL=SO Function of the glands of the body. General rhythm of the hour, the meal, etc. Disorderly changed course of the day. The passing of a certain hour of the day.
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SO/ME=VE A Young girl. Love of a young body.
SO/VE=ME Verbal expressions of love. Thinking about expressing love. A man discussing love. Love relationships.
ME/VE=SO Personal meeting or greeting of friends or new acquaintances. Love of one's own body. Vanity. Taste for plastic arts.
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SO/ME=MA A young boy. A young man. To work fast. The tempo of work. Violent thinking. Anger an excitement.
SO/MA=ME The commander. The man who becomes angry and tends toward assault.
ME/MA=SO The voice. The language. Quickly acting body. Excited body.
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SO/ME=JU A lucky youth (also to be lucky in youth). A good natured and benign mind. One who is agile and serene. The talent for speaking. Travelling for pleasure.
SO/JU=ME A good physician. Good news. Thinking of success. Persevering speaker. Success through speaking, travel, writing, commerce or trade professions.
ME/JU=SO Happy mood. Lively and agile body.
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SO/ME=SA The state of consciousness is retarded. The faculty to became aware of something is slowed down. To be engaged in serious practical thinking. To take leave (time of prating). Travelling. The end of a journey (the arrival).
SO/SA=ME Parting. To go away. To travel. To occupy one's mind with personal restraints. To talk and write about restrains. Thinking about separating.
ME/SA=SO Parting person. Unruly guest. Not staying long in one place. To roam.
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SO/ME=UR To think by leaps and bounds. To talk fast. The inventor or technician. Sudden quick thoughts. To demonstrate or give demonstrations. An uproar involving young people. To suddenly act on a matter.
SO/UR=ME To comprehend fast. A day filled with news, calls messages. To have spontaneous ideas. Quick and vivid thinking. To give orders suddenly. To be excited while speaking or writing. A rescue team present at an accident.
ME/UR=SO Agility. Quick acting body. Quick at hand. Messenger.
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SO/ME=NE Inspiration. The author. Not clear, rambling, impractical thinking. To be sluggish. A swindler. Fraud.
SO/NE=ME Poor memory. Day-dreaming. A receptive mind. Not being fully awake. Mental defects. The feeling of mental ecstasy. To be confused about the personal sphere of life.
ME/NE=SO Receptivity for thoughts, author.
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SO/ME=PL Thinking that is capable of development. Changeable thinking (flexible). The influence of the external motion on the internal development, the growth an the circulation.
SO/PL=ME The exercising body. To be in motion. The physical development speeds up through exercise. Increased agility of the body through exercise. The condition of the nerves.
ME/PL=SO Function of the motoric and vegetative nervous system. To prefer nerve-strengthening food.
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SO/VE=MA A man's love activity.
SO/MA=VE The erotic love of a man. The bed-fellow. The sexually active man.
VE/MA=SO Sexual love of the body. Determination to marriage. Procreation. To be bodily together with intimate friends or blood relatives. Male relatives.
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SO/VE=JU A body animated with the joy of love. The happiness of a loving man.
SO/JU=VE The man in love. To physically feel happy because of love. Success with hobbies and favored recreation activities. Indulgences.
VE/JU=SO Joyous love of a man. Love's happiness on the day.
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SO/VE=SA Love separation of a man. Disharmony.
SO/SA=VE Scruples related to love (ethical objections to certain actions). Restraints and difficulties related to love. Sickness through the female sex. A man inclined to separate from a love relationship.
VE/SA=SO Transiently united or separated. Grass widower. Widower.
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SO/VE=UR To be sentimental. To have a refined feeling of love. One who is full of expression. A very fine perception of love. Love at first sight. A man who is suddenly in love. To be very affectionate. Refined sensuality. Artistic and original art.
SO/UR=VE Unexpected affection or love. Sudden events concerning love. Romantic love. To be ecstatic over love. A happy surprise.
VE/UR=SO Delicate feeling. To be loved suddenly. High minded love. Courtesy.
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SO/VE=NE Overly sensitive in love-affairs. Love without prospects. Unhappy love of a man. Coolness in expressing affection.
SO/NE=VE Shyness. The chaste lover.
VE/NE=SO Timid in love. Silent admirer. Indifferent in love.
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SO/VE=PL The appetite. The desire to eat. The sense of taste. Beauty and harmony of the developing body.
SO/PL=VE To develop the taste. The body grows and develops harmoniously (in balance and proportion).
VE/PL=SO Harmonious development of the body. Harmonious passing of the days. Pleasant state of nourishment of the body. To eat in pleasant surroundings.
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SO/MA=JU The victorious one. A man happy in his activity. The fiance.
SO/JU=MA A happy fiance. A man happy in his work. Luck on the attack. Decisions of volition (The power to choose. Making a conscious decision). Promising activities.
MA/JU=SO Exchange of rings. Betrothal. Procreation. The man who is happy and successful in his work.
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SO/MA=SA The beginning of an illness. The obstructed activity of a man. An interruption of work or other activity.
SO/SA=MA The lonely or secluded man, The widower. To be the cause of another persons death. Death of the father. Through one's own actions to interfere and successfully overcome personal hindrances and restraints.
MA/SA=SO Death, sickness, personal difficulties.
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SO/MA=UR The violent man. To threaten or beat-up somebody. The man who suddenly becomes aggressive.
SO/UR=MA Working in too hurried a manner. To rush. Physically aggressive and impulsive. Spontaneous decisions. To act precipitously (abruptly). An injury to the body. An accident. A wounded body. Excitements through acts of will.
MA/UR=SO Sudden bodily action. The energetic or fierce man. Sudden injury to the body.
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SO/MA=NE The impotent husband. Fatigue. The deceived husband. The fraudulent active man. The loss of the husband. The loss of employment.
SO/NE=MA impotence. Susceptible to venereal diseases. Weak in action. To harm oneself through actions or decisions.
MA/NE=SO Infection or destruction of the body, of the eyes, The body or the man who is susceptible to diseases.
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SO/MA=PL To carry on several different work projects at the same time. The man making plans for work.
SO/PL=MA To have a hardy regenerative capacity. The kind of work decides how the body develops.
MA/PL=SO Schedule of the day. The man who serves the civil administration.
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SO/JU=SA Lost position. Malchance. Hindered success. Lost happiness.
SO/SA=JU To be fortunate in old age. Fortunate through older people. To change the location.
JU/SA=SO Dissolution of a betrothal, or marriage. The bachelor.
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SO/JU=UR Forced luck. Sudden luck. Pleasant surprises while striving for success.
SO/UR=JU Unions or connections that result in happiness. Luck through the sudden resolution of a situation. Making an advantageous decision. A surprise that brings personal joy.
JU/UR=SO Sudden bodily happiness. The little luck of the day. Man enjoying himself well.
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SO/JU=NE A successful swindler. Passing happiness. Loss of money. Becoming poor. Unclear conditions. To be under false impressions while working toward success.
SO/NE=JU To be fortunate through passive physical activity. income gained through easy physical work.
JU/NE=SO Bodily well-being. Wastage of sustenance (the body). The man who makes himself believe he is lucky and happy. Speculators, Spendthrifts.
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SO/JU=PL The healthy function of the organs. Increase in good health. Good fortune develops during a lifetime.
SO/PL=JU To have a full figure. To put on weight easily. To successfully overcome a health problem.
JU/PL=SO Fortunate run of the day. Happy, fortunate physical development. The man who is accustomed to take abundant meals.
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SO/SA=UR Trouble or losses through older people. Sudden separations.
SO/UR=SA To quickly run away. Trying to rid oneself of something through physical efforts. To give birth. Sudden physical separations. Difficulties due to resistance. Painful and grievous surprises. Shaking with ague (an attack of fever accompanied by chills or shivering).
SA/UR=SO Days of excitements, separations, obstacles. Sudden bodily separation. Overstrain. The man who is suddenly separated.
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SO/SA=NE A body weakened through a long illness. Personal obstacles through confusion, falseness and misunderstanding.
SO/NE=SA Lingering maladies. A body enfeebled by disease. Blood diseases. Poor states of health. Losses through deceit or weakness.
SA/NE=SO Days drag along under unfortunate conditions. The man who feels sick and weak. Long illness of the body.
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SO/SA=PL Abstinence. Disproportion. Retarded development. The normal action of the body's organs is hindered.
SO/PL=SA Fasting or dieting. Slow physical development. Stingy way of living. Physical hardening. The body's tendency toward an excess of cartilage. Ossification.
SA/PL=SO Days without progress. Hindered physical development. The man who is slowly separated.
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SO/UR=NE Airline accidents. Useless and erroneous excitement. Tension caused by uncertainties, confusion, lies or deceit. Gas or water accidents (oil spills). Events connected with death. Burials. Connections with dead people.
SO/NE=UR Epilepsy. A nervous body. To be suddenly struck with an illness. To be checkmated. Disconnected. Burials. To experience excitement through deception.
UR/NE=SO Days of change between tension and relaxation. The man who changes between tension and relaxation, who works energetically or not at all, who is thrown back and forth by impulses. To be a medium. Apparent death. Trance-like states.
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SO/UR=PL The proper tone of the body is only gained throughout the course of the lifetime. Acquired nervousness. Neuralgia. Transformation through tension.
SO/PL=UR Sudden change in the mode of life or diet.
UR/PL=SO Physical development which commences suddenly. The man who suddenly faces a changed manner of nutrition, who suddenly changes his intake of food or his meals. Days during which mealtimes are on a changed schedule.
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SO/NE=PL Unnoticed changes taking place in the body. The development of susceptibility either good or bad as regards the physical health.
SO/PL=NE The lack of appetite. To be very fastidious about food. Dislike of rich foods. To taste unfamiliar foods. Denial of narcotics and similar drugs after a tryout. Imperceptible changes in the body.
NE/PL=SO Unnoticeable changes in the body through changed mode of living or absorption of food, through alcohol, tobacco, drugs, etc. The refusal or rejection of these or through medicaments, especially homeopathic medicine. To be hidden, to be missing.


http://www.cafeastrology.com/astrologytopics/midpointpictures.html

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posted April 13, 2010 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
I wish there was a good source for this, I've looked around and only come across the cafeastro stuff which seems very dire and drastic in its interpretation. They have a pretty decent report you can order though...

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posted April 13, 2010 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Hey pretty cool I didn't know Cafe Astrology did those.
Ahh reading through some of mine, they're really depressing lol.

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posted April 13, 2010 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
Lonake- yeah! stay away from them! pretty sure they are from very grim, outdated texts

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posted April 13, 2010 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

That's from Alfred Witte's Rulebook of Planetary Pictures.

That's the Uranian Astrology/Hamburg School Bible.

Reinhold Ebertin's Combination of Stellar Influences is based on that book.

His Cosmobiology is based on Uranian Astrology/Hamburg School stuff.

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posted April 14, 2010 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for staborgi     Edit/Delete Message
cool! wish i could read a little more...what's up there seems kind of one dimensional...and depressing/vague! if anyone else knows of any online sources for midpoints would love to read I find it interesting that he refers to the MC as the soul (although then he calls it the ego? I think of those two things as VERY different, thoughts?) and the ASC as acquaintances...that actually feels kind of right? Maybe that's why I know SO many Aries? This month has been a doozy of birthdays

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posted April 14, 2010 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah

The Midheaven is interpreted differently in Uranian Astrology and Cosmobiology from astrologers.

In quadrant house systems like Placidus and Koch, the Midheaven corresponds with the 10th house cusp, and so it involves career and social status.


Cosmobiologists and Uranian Astrologers don't use houses, and so they disregard 10th house meanings for Midheaven.

I prefer to view the Midheaven like the Cosmobiologists,Uranian Astrologers do.

I don't agree with the Mainstream Astrologer's views of the Midheaven. They are relative because it depends on the house system being used. In Whole Sign and Equal Sign house systems, Midheaven doesn't correspond with 10th house cusp and can be in houses other than the 10th house. In the polar regions, Midheaven and Ascendant can coincide with each other (conjunction or opposition) to the point that there are no houses. Over a million people live in the North Polar Region,and so Placidus and Koch house systems don't work for them.

In South Polar regions, Midheaven is located in the bottom half of the chart.

Ascendant in Polar Regions

As we move closer to the polar regions the time lengths of long and short ascensions become more extreme.

At the Arctic circle at 66.56° north, at local sidereal time 18h 00m 00s, when 0° Capricorn is on the midheaven the ecliptic become flush with the horizon with the ascendant effectively subsumed into the horizon circle in it entirety. That is, the intersection of the ecliptic with the horizon that defines the ascendant ceases to exist, eliminating all houses at that instant. There are no signs that are rising or setting. There is no ascendant or descendant. The spherical geometry that generates them fails and "zeros" them out of existence.

In the instant after this, as diurnal motion continues, the ecliptic “lifts” from the horizon and the ascendant resumes its identity providing space for the resumption of the intermediate houses.

As we move beyond the Arctic Circle most house systems break down and are inoperable for parts of the day. Ever-increasing sections of the ecliptic remain permanently below and above the horizon and can not be ascendants. For example, at 75° latitude Sagittarius, Capricorn and parts of Scorpio and Aquarius are permanently below the horizon while Gemini, Cancer and parts of Taurus and Leo and are permanently above the horizon. These can never be ascendants.

Furthermore the ascendant exhibits other strange behaviour. At latitude 75 at sidereal time 21h 20m 00s the midheaven and ascendant merge and become conjunct confounding their separate definitions! In this instance all intermediate houses are zeroed out except for house 12 and 6. In the instant after this the ascendant crosses over the meridian to the west and instantaneously becomes the descendant, but with its degrees rising instead of setting , while the descendant crosses the meridian to the east and becomes an ascendant with its degree setting rather than rising. That is the ascendant is goes retrograde! This continues until the ascendant once again crosses the meridian whereupon they flip back resuming their conventional identities – until local sidereal time 2h 25m 00s when the situation flips again with all houses but 1 and 7 “zeroed” out.

As we reach the north pole itself more of the ecliptic is unavailable for rising and setting until at the precise position of the north geographic pole half of the zodiac - Aries to Virgo - is permanently above the horizon while the other half - Libra to Pisces are permanently below the horizon. That is, the first degrees of Aries and Libra permanently ride around on the horizon due to diurnal motion - never rising nor setting. At the north pole there can be no midheaven. Every direction away from you is south, so every direction is a midheaven rending the midheaven meaningless by definition.

Polar astrology raises questions about the validity or nature of houses in general and personality delineations are limited by which sign can rise and rulerships become almost impossible to apply.
[edit] Effects of Polar Astrology

There are more than 4 million people living in the Arctic region of which 12% are of indigenous birth (have charts). [1] So the problem for astrology is not trivial. Many of them will have houses missing or no houses in the their charts. Yet they must live lives that accommodate the matters ascribed to astrological houses such as "finances", "relationships", "health" etc that can be missing in their horoscopes. Ascendants of births in this region can be characterized by the proportion of ascendants that only can rise. This furthermore restricts personalty delineations.

Murmansk at 68.97° north is in this astrological problem zone. With a population of 300,000 and annual birth rate of 9.8/1000 [2] there is a substantial portion of the population that falls into the zone of missing houses and rising signs.

On the other hand one could dispense with houses or even signs all together. As with the method of Cosmobiology, signs and houses are either ignored or relegated as incidental. Along with planets, their mutual aspects and aspects to the ascendant and midheaven, as well as their midpoints there are still plenty of factors that incorporates a unique moment of birth for a comprehensive delineation while avoiding the polar “crash” of classical house systems and signs.

It's obvious that the familiar house systems of classical astrology were invented in the non-problem mid latitudes in an era when population centres were more parochial. The house-system inventors were mathematically competent astrologers and they must have been aware of the polar problem but likely considered it irrelevant as they may have never had to cast a polar chart. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascendant


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posted April 14, 2010 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I am fascinated with midpoints.

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posted April 14, 2010 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
DD,

Me too.

Hamburg School/Uranian School Astrologers use 8 hypothetical transneptunian objects. I wonder why not replace with 8 real ones. We already use Pluto,and technically that's a transneptunian object for its average distance is greater than Neptune's.


I'd look at just the direct midpoints and use smaller orbs. No more than 1 degree compared 1 1/2 degree for the regular planets. That also includes Pluto.

I'd look at Ecliptic Longitude, Right Ascension, and Declination.

Cosmobiologists use both Ecliptic Longitude and Declination.

I believe that Right Ascension is also a valid coordinate. After all, astronomers use it along with declination to locate objects.

I had used 10 minutes of arc for declination midpoints. I'd use 5 minutes of arc for the transneptunian declination midpoints.


Hamburg School/Uranian Astrologers use much smaller orbs. They don't use more than 3 degrees for regular aspects.

If using Hamburg School Approach,it would make sense to use no more than 1 degree orb for regular aspects involving transneptunian objects


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Yes, I am wary of these hypothetical planets, too. It makes more sense looking at real existing bodies imo.

Also, do you only use direct midpoints with planets, too? Or do you also use square, semisquare, sesisquare with them?

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posted April 14, 2010 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
"Also, do you only use direct midpoints with planets, too? Or do you also use square, semisquare, sesisquare with them?"


Yeah...I am considering only direct midpoints with planets too. I am with Robert Hand that the direct midpoint pictures could indicate be as significant as regular aspects. I think the indirect midpoints of indsquare,semisquare,sesquiquadrate is more about finetuning.

Because I am looking at the transneptunians and other coordinates, I want to make them as manageable as possible.


The main thing is that I want to focus on repeated themes and major themes.

I don't want to just focus on 1 configuration and come to a determination, especially if the configuration is not a strong aspect.

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"Yeah...I am considering only direct midpoints with planets too."
I reread his chapter on midpoints just the last weekend and came to the same conclusion as you, as to only using direct midpoints. I was a bit unsure about the square, but then again it is called midpoint and not mid-aspect or something like that.


"I am with Robert Hand that the direct midpoint pictures could indicate be as significant as regular aspects."
you really think so? I am still trying to figure out if they really are as important, but so far it seems to be a valid hypothesis.
I really think that my ASC conjunct Mars/Neptune with an orb of 0°32 may be more significant than the Mars-Neptune conjunction at 4°46. Of course both may have a cumulative effect.

"Because I am looking at the transneptunians and other coordinates, I want to make them as manageable as possible. "
Yes, that is actually what I strive to do, too. To make them manageable and not clutter the charts so much that I can`t really see the forest through the trees anymore.


"The main thing is that I want to focus on repeated themes and major themes."
Yes.


"I don't want to just focus on 1 configuration and come to a determination, especially if the configuration is not a strong aspect."
Exactly. Looking for repeated themes and very close aspects makes sense to me, too.


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posted April 14, 2010 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Looking at my natal chart from a midpoint perspective it looks like this (only direct ones of course).


Sun=Jupiter/Pluto
You are good at promoting, marketing, and bringing things to a larger audience. You find ways to expand the exposure of a product, or of bringing something to the attention of a larger number of people. You strive for success, and sooner or later you will achieve it.


Mercury=Moon/Uranus
You have quick reflexes, which gives you talent in some sports, playing a musical instrument, or any other activity that requires quickness and agility. You are very clever and have a good sense of humor. You pick up on things that other people miss. You function well in a fast-paced environment but can become nervous and high-strung from too much stress.


Mercury=Jupiter/Pluto
You are interested in many different subjects, you learn quickly, and you find something of value in almost any subject area. You are well-suited to academics, although too much memorization or rote learning bores you very quickly. You can succeed in an area that involves large communications, education, politics, marketing, or exciting research.


Venus=Jupiter/Uranus
You have a good sense of rhythm, and you have talent in music and/or dance. You also have a good sense of humor, and when you are in a good mood, you put everyone in a good mood. Very often you are the life of the party.

Mars=Venus/Uranus (pretty wide with 1-26 though)
You have very strong romantic and sexual feelings. You are likely to fall in, and out of, love at least a few times before settling down so it is probably not a good idea for you to marry early in life. You love music and probably dance also. It is important that sexuality does not overpower the importance of love, kindness, or mutual understanding in your romantic relationships because otherwise you can be unfulfilled in the long run.


Uranus=Moon/Saturn
You become uncomfortable quickly when forced to behave, dress, or act according to the desires of others or social conventions. It is important for you to dress comfortably and feel unrestrained. You can become very stressed, and massage or other stress-relieving activities are good for you to participate in regularly.


Neptune=MOon/MC

Neptune=Node/ASC

ASC=Mars/Neptune

ASC=Mars/Node

MC=Sun/Saturn

MC=Mercury/Saturn


I also looked at the squares (but only with under 1 degree orb), and found some pretty accurate actually


Sun=Mars/Saturn
You are a dedicated and responsible worker. If an area interests you, then you will put in long hours and do whatever it takes to achieve the goal. Any great achievement requires the hard work and sacrifice of people; you are one of those people that makes this achievement possible, even though you may not receive the credit you deserve

Sun=Saturn/ASC 1°03

Moon=Sun/PLuto
Periodically you feel compulsively drawn to research or investigate something, or possibly just to do something that drives you from deep within yourself. While many of your friends and acquaintances seem content to live day to day without going to extremes, you, on the other hand, have periods when you are compulsively driven from within. You have a complex emotional nature that makes it difficult for others to completely understand you, or to even understand yourself.


Moon=Mercury/Pluto
It is likely that you are involved in psychology, anthropology, history, or genealogy. You like to look beneath the surface of things, and you may also have an interest in mystery novels. You can be very successful in any area that requires curiosity and the desire to uncover secrets.

(Moon=Mars/URanus 1-10)
Your emotions build up very suddenly. When frustrated, you become quickly angered, and it is important for you not to develop a habit of losing your temper. You can become very impatient with others and provoke them without realizing it; do not hesitate to apologize later if you are too sharp with someone. Challenging physical activities, athletics, and competitions suit you well.


Mercury=Mars/Saturn 1-01
You have a methodical and logical mind, and you also have good mental concentration. An academic path is good for you. You are a good student and are capable of mastering difficult subjects. Your willingness to work hard to understand something makes it possible for you to master difficult subjects that most other people are unwilling to attempt. You do not always grasp an idea as quickly as others, but you tend to be more thorough and once learned, you really understand the material exceptionally well.


Venus=Sun/Saturn
You are serious and loyal in love relationships. You are not inclined to date a lot of different people; you seek a meaningful and deep relationship. You dislike ostentatiousness, pretentiousness, and glamour.


Venus=Mercury/Saturn
You have an aptitude for artistic design and geometry. You also have a knack for understanding what is really on a person's mind, and what is important to them. You have a good foundation in simple and lasting values and you are a responsible, mature person.

Venus=Pluto/MC

Jupiter=Moon/MC

(Jupiter=Neptune/NOde 1-10)

(Saturn=Uranus/MC 1-13)

Neptune=Saturn/Uranus


MC=Jupiter/Uranus 1-19


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